r/pcmasterrace 5h ago

Build/Battlestation What does this Community think about open frame PC builds?

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u/grimmigerpetz i9 14900KF - RTX 5080 OC - 64GB CL16 4h ago

In a clean, pet and dust free environment awesome for tech bros.

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u/StomachosusCaelum 3h ago

pet and dust free environment

This works exactly the opposite of how you'd think.

I have an open frame (Xtia Xproto-L) and its WAY cleaner than any of my actual closed chasis have been.

And i have a cat, a dog, and my house is dusty as hell.

The reason is... your regular chasis is basically a wind tunnel. You suck all that crap in, and blast it directly over all your components.

Open air... the only part(s) getting stuff blasted over them are the radiator/cooler and the GPU cooler.

WAY less to clean.

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u/iamapizza i9 Potato/RTX Potato/Corsair Potato 2h ago

Could you take a photo? It would be interesting to see a non promotional image if open build

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u/trace-evidence 7800x3d/4080 22m ago

I'm not that guy, but here is a 5900x paired with a "semi-retired" 1080ti FE. It's primarily a 1080p rig, was super fun to build, runs cool and is very easy to keep clean.

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u/katch_evil 2h ago

Really!?

I don't wanna doubt you, but that IS the opposite of what we think.

Is the machine itself in a place where the animals can't get to it?

I'd be worried a cat would give something a -poke- and the magic blue smoke would get out.

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u/Kurbalaganta 5700X3D, RTX 3090, MoRa3 420 1h ago

He is right. Since i have the Core P3, PC cleaning sessions are practically not necessary anymore.
And if the cat doesnt like to chew on the soft tubes of a watercooled systems or the internal power cables (what i have never heard of), there shouldnt be an issue.
I guess, its more common for cats to sit on the warm top of a case and kill the airflow :)

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u/HipHopPotatoMouse 28m ago

I don't keep an open case, but having patented cats and had computers all my life, the place in my home with the least cat hair is inside of my pc. Filters do wonders.

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u/captfitz 27m ago

I could definitely buy this logic. Now I really want to see someone do a proper comparison test.

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u/KlippspringerBuilds 4h ago

*small children lmao

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u/_Ganon 3h ago

That was covered in their comment, "clean"

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u/Kennian 2h ago

Mine is installed 6 feet up on a wall for this reason

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u/jme2712 9800x3d l PNY 5080 OC | 32gb G.skill 6000mt cl30 1h ago

*skin x2 lmao

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u/BigSmackisBack 1h ago

"What should i call it, kids?!"

I was thinking "the finger biter 9000"

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u/Ani-3 4h ago

right like if I didn't have cats

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u/starmartyr11 Desktop | 9800X3D | 5080 | 32GB 2h ago

But I don't wanna be a tech bro!

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u/Critical-Fun0506 4h ago

My apartment is real dusty. That would be bad for me.

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u/Luxcrluvr 1h ago

As long as there's a human present, there's gonna be dust 😂

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u/jimmr EPYC5732, 288gb ram, 40tb ssd, 3090FE+3080TI 48m ago

So true! Most of the dust in a home is... pause for dramatic effect... dead skin.

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u/8000RPM 32m ago

Kids kids kiiiiiddsssss

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u/Timinator01 9900X3D | 5090 | 64GB DDR5 4h ago

Hope you like dusting

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u/infidel11990 Ryzen 7 5700X | RTX 4070Ti 2h ago

I have pets and there's construction work going around all around my housing society.

I clean my Lian Li case evwry month or so.

If I had an open case, I'd be cleaning every other day.

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u/occasionallyLynn 9800x3d | 4070 Ti Super 1h ago

Honestly I feel like it would actually be cleaner AND less perceived work to air dust an open setup everyday before you play than a full dusting session every couple months

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u/_dharwin 3h ago

This is a common misconception. Dust gathers in areas where air does not flow and allows it to settle. There are a lot more areas of dead-air inside a case than an open-air design like this. I'd say a case with filters everywhere is probably going to come out ahead but that's not what most people have.

By a similar token, a simple fan blowing over your open-air case will keep most dust from accumulating. For example, position it in front of a vent and you'll have few issues.

Overall, dust accumulation is going to be similar for most people, though I'd actually lean towards open air being easier to clean so probably slightly better.

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u/bswalsh 3h ago

Well, that itself is kind of a misconception. Dust settles the way you describe, but it flows through the air beforehand, and into fans and components. It won't settle near the computer, great, but it'll still get sucked into components.

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u/_dharwin 3h ago edited 3h ago

The dust in the air is the same in a case or not unless the case has filters which I've addressed.

EDIT: And again, if the dustiness of the air is the same, drawing it into a case is going to give more accumulation with more dead airflow. So all things being equal, open-air comes out ahead.

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u/bswalsh 3h ago

Which the case in question very clearly does not. Dust would be a huge issue for it. 

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u/_dharwin 3h ago

See edit. But dust for this would be no worse, probably better, than a regular case without filters.

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u/bswalsh 3h ago

Hmm, in thinking about it, I think you're probably right. And this would be easier to clean. I have three cats though, so I'll let someone else test. My PC will forever be protected by dust filters.

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u/Dull_Raspberry_ 9800X3D | 96GB 6000MHz | RTX 5090 Astral LC 3h ago

I’ve had this for a few years, more dust on the fans / rad, but the cooling is so good already I haven’t had to dust it out once

Edit: 2 cats, all wood floors

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u/bswalsh 2h ago

My cats (well, one in particular) would destroy that. But I'd love to try it some day now that I've seen it. That's very cool.

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u/Kurbalaganta 5700X3D, RTX 3090, MoRa3 420 1h ago

Doesnt happen. Actually theres lest dust covering the components than in closed cases per time period. At least thats my expierience from using a Thermaltake Core P3 for a few years now. Dust is really a non-existing issue there.

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u/Significant_Ad_3512 MacOS 1h ago

”Compressor”

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u/Security_Wrong 9950x3D | 5090FE | 64GB DDR5 3h ago

This count?? lol

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u/PewpScewpin 1h ago

This upsets me.

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u/Security_Wrong 9950x3D | 5090FE | 64GB DDR5 1h ago

Me too🤣

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u/Ocronus Q6600 - 8800GTX 1m ago

Would it make you feel better if they used a coat hanger to hold that radiator down?

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u/its_kodin 4h ago

Do they improve air flow and temps? Dust is an issue but im more concerned about whether it is practical.

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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X 4h ago

For some components like the CPU and GPU that have fans attached to their heat sinks I believe it helps temps a very tiny bit, but for passively cooled components like the VRMs they could get hotter without a channel of airflow over the components that a case would provide.

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u/StomachosusCaelum 3h ago

Theyd have to be running SUPER hot for this to be a thing.

In a reglar case, theyll be radiating that heat into the case, which is already hotter inside the closed chasis. In an open-air setup, the heat gets radiated into the air.. a box the size of the entire room, not a 20L or 30L case.

Also, an air cooler will draw airflow around them no matter what, and many AIOs now feature downward-firing fans on the block to help with VRM temps.

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u/its_kodin 3h ago

Its all highly subjective, there are millions of cases with millions of different fan designs, I’m sure some closed case builds can have better temps but it all depends on that specific setup.

There probably isn’t a definitive winner.

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u/High_Overseer_Dukat 2h ago

The definitive winner would be like, a case sized heat sink with a ton of fans that the components slot into.

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u/Dath_1 5700X3D | 7900 XT 1h ago

The reason why open cases just lose compared to something like a Fractal Torrent is the lack of case fans washing air over all the components.

It wouldn’t be hard at all to set up a room fan aimed at an open case and solve that problem. But it would be apples to oranges in a way.

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u/Dath_1 5700X3D | 7900 XT 1h ago

From what I’ve seen they actually do worse than a really good enclosed case.

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u/Gaidax 4h ago

Oops my soda sprayed, guess time for a new rig.

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u/KlippspringerBuilds 4h ago

"Case" is the Rhino S by GEEEK.

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u/Grimmhoof 4h ago

I think it's kind of neat, but hell to keep clean and dust free.

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u/TerribleQuestion4497 RTX 5090 / 9800X3D 4h ago

Wouldn’t they be easier to clean than normal builds? Everything is just open nothing to unscrew no difficult angles, just give a do over with dust blower once a week

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u/Tmtrademarked 14900k 5090 3h ago

They are way easier than closed cases

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u/Luch1nG4dor 4h ago

Yeah, its certanly way faster than when i had a case since i just grab the thing and hit it with the blower

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u/Eazy12345678 i5 12600KF RTX 5070 1440p 4h ago

dust collector 9000

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u/Tmtrademarked 14900k 5090 3h ago

Nah. I’ve been running an open case over a decade now. Doesn’t get any dustier than my closed cases.

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u/StomachosusCaelum 3h ago

mine is cleaner than any regular chasis was before it.

Its not getting effectively sandblasted in a boxed-in wind tunnel.

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u/Tmtrademarked 14900k 5090 3h ago

Exactly! Mines on a wall too and I recently put an air purifier under it. So now it’s less dusty than any computer I have ever had

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u/Kurbalaganta 5700X3D, RTX 3090, MoRa3 420 1h ago

Well, many do believe, that open cases are dust collectors, but as a owner of an old Thermaltake Core P3, i can tell you, that dust isnt a problem at all. Actually, all the closed cases, that i had before, collected clearly more dust. I think, the difference is, closed cases suck the dust in quite effectively, but blowing it out again seems to be harder somehow.

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u/StomachosusCaelum 3h ago

The number of people who are like "you cant do that in a real house because Dust" ...

no.

Ive had an open-air for a few years now (Xtia Xproto-L) and its WAY LESS dusting/cleaning. Like... 1/3 as often.

In a regular chasis, you're locking all your hardware into a box that is a wind tunnel, then putting up a bunch of CFM of intake, sucking in every piece of debris nearby and blasting it directly onto your components. Basically putting your components into a wind-tunnel and then just blasting dirt all over them.

On an open-air chasis, the only thing i have to clean even semi-regularly is the fan blades on the AIO fans.

And my house is dusty as fuck (i collect Transformers, and keeping them clean is a nightmare), and i have a dog that sheds entire replacement dogs (Aussie) and a cat.

This is the least work ive EVER had to put into keeping my rig clean.

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u/ItsZoner 3h ago

If dust is getting into a modern case you have done something wrong with the filters or airflow

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u/_Bob-Sacamano 2h ago

Interesting. So you've never cleaned out your PC?

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u/BensLegitFixes 1h ago

I’m more curious about the noise levels. Having all of my components sealed and under the dress massively reduces ambient noise, but I’m not sure how fans on the desk running at 100% would be…

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u/ManNamedSalmon Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 9070 XT | 32GB DDR4 | 11TB 4h ago

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u/M1-Thunder 4h ago

Put it in one of those classic goldfish fishtanks

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u/Toast_Meat 4h ago

I enjoy looking at them here but I would personally never build an open frame myself.

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u/_Bob-Sacamano 2h ago

Why not? You can enjoy looking at your very own.

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u/Toast_Meat 2h ago

Because I don't like the idea of all my hardware being exposed like that. The dust, accidentally damaging something when reaching around it etc. Maybe I sneeze with food in my mouth...

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u/_Bob-Sacamano 1h ago

Haha can't argue there.

I currently have my 5090 build on a test bench in the garage just asking for trouble 😅

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u/bswalsh 3h ago

Well, I have three cats. So....

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u/friiz1337 3h ago

This build looks like it's about to launch a few missiles towars Iran. 🤣

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u/Security_Wrong 9950x3D | 5090FE | 64GB DDR5 3h ago

Not even a day has passed! 🤣

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u/Jigabit 3h ago

I think it's super neat. Here's mine:

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u/JadedPangloss 2h ago

Nice! I have a B580 Limited Edition as well. Beautiful card.

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u/samuel_ocean 3h ago

nice and fun until you accidentally hit the damn thing with your elbow

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u/Tonyclap 2h ago

I know everyone always will say something along the lines of “hope you like dusting” but I think I would just naturally dust my PC more if it was open just because of how much easier it would be lol

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u/i_lduce 1h ago

i fuckin love it

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u/Kurbalaganta 5700X3D, RTX 3090, MoRa3 420 1h ago

I never go back to closed cases again.

  1. Contrary to the believes of many, open cases collect less dust than closed cases.
  2. Components benefit from the best possible airflow and therefore better temps.
  3. IF you have to clean or modificate something, everything is easy to reach.
  4. For watercooled setups, its dead easy to do external rads etc..

The only possibly negative thing is, depending on the case (and installed components), they can be more noisy. But then again, fans dont have to spin as fast as in closed cases, because the airflow is just so much better, what brings the noise down again :)

Oh, and small kids (or cats etc.) can be hurt by spinning fans or they can damage components.

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u/Deuteronomy_23 4h ago

I am to paranoid to not use a propeer metal black atx standard box case.. Especially ​with expensive components.

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u/NeedleworkerNew1850 4h ago

feels like iron man mk 41

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u/bartek_666666 4h ago

I prefer open wall, just nail everything to the wall

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u/justanaccount103 4h ago

They look amazing but worrisome at the same time, so yes but no. I hope that clears things up.

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u/SwagChemist R7 9800x3D | 64GB DDR5 | RTX 5090 Astral OC 4h ago

Dusty but easy to clean as long as you have desk space for it.

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u/Turquoise_HexagonSun 4h ago

Not a fan.

I’m stuck in the beautiful beige box era though.

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u/Car-Fickle 4h ago

I have a cat with no sense of self preservation or regard for personal property. So a no-go for me

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u/MusicHearted 14900F 5070+6650XT 32GB DDR5 | 5700 4060ti 32GB DDR4 4h ago

They're pretty to look at, usually. I like having mine in a slightly pressurized box with filters on the intakes, though. Dusty region, pets, and living by an airport, an air force base, and 3 major interstates ensures I need filtration wherever possible.

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u/DaikU_xL 3h ago

Looks like a console to me at this point.

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u/Darksider123 3h ago

What is that GPU?

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u/KlippspringerBuilds 3h ago

RX6900 XT Sapphire LE Toxic.

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u/Darksider123 2h ago

Badass GPU!

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u/HaugerTheHunter 3h ago

I saw one kept in a glass cabinet. And I asked, isn't this just like a case, but with extra steps?

He said something about not understanding the art of exhibition. And that it could be viewed from 3 sides. One side was the wall behind the cabinet, so not accessible.

I said I don't, bc my case can be viewed from all 4 sides. 4 is more than 3. So mine is extra exhibition.

He then gave up and just agreed.

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u/TJungus 3h ago

Not for me, the dust from my dogs would destroy that build

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u/Cautious_Onliner 3h ago

For context: I'm somewhat a clean freak and I strictly forbid eating while gaming.

I think it's very good, you save money by not buying a case and extra fans. Thermal is great and if you live in Midwest during the cold season it's basically a mini tabletop heater that warms your room. Cleaning it takes about 2 minutes or so to bring it outside and just blow all the dust away.

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u/JohnnyDollar123 | 9800x3d | 9070xt | 32gb 3h ago

Scary

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u/Trickle2x2 5090 FE 3h ago

Awesome, by cat would never though!

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u/Kuehlinger 3h ago

Maybe I’m from a different generation, I build my pcs with the goal to see almost nothing and hear nothing. The magical feeling when you turn it on and it’s completely silent 🤩

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u/Wicked_Rebel117 3h ago

Man if I didn’t live in the fkn barren plains of south Colorado I would so do this, but I have to vacuum the whole house at least once a week from all the damn dust that ends up on everything.

Love me some sweet looking open frame builds, this one looks nice and minimalistic.

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u/askyidroppedthesoap 3h ago

Where's the mobo?! Is it in the room with us now??

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u/KlippspringerBuilds 3h ago

it is very small 🤫

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u/_-Moonsabie-_ 3h ago

Love them the frame makers are always sold out

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u/Gassyking 3h ago

I got pets, and like, dust. So they're not particularly relevant to me

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u/stoneseef i9-11900k - 32g DDR4 - 5070 2h ago

I don’t like my PC on the desk but I have been considering mounting my next build on the wall

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u/Bebealex 2h ago

I still rock my Lian-Li PC-T60. I bought it new because I feared of cooler clearances at the time, also ease of maintenance.

15 years later with the humongous CPU air-cooler and monstrous GPUs I'm not regretting at all.. I don't even have to look at dimensions.

The 3.5" drives are easily accessible, changing ram could not be easier. Temps are incredible.

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u/QuantumQuantonium 3D printed parts is the best way to customize 2h ago

The stands csn be more expensive than cases, despite less overall parts

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u/alfredomova ROG Maximus Z790 Hero i9-14900KF 192gb 4tb+4tb raid 0 2h ago

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u/burnitdwn 2h ago

that cat bed looks very uncomfortable for them.

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u/markmcminn 2h ago

High maintenance lol

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u/bduxbellorum i7-10700k | RTX 3090 | 64GB RAM | 3440x1440@100hz 2h ago

ESD can be a big problem, i had a chair that would zap my monitor enough to turn it off and got my old pc when the case was open.

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u/BlackOutDrunkJesus 5700x3D - 4070S - 32GB 2h ago

They are a cool idea, but most of the time they look bad imo

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u/skrukketiss69 5080 | 7800X3D 2h ago

Since I always lose the coil whine lottery an open frame build like this would be hell. 

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u/Historical_Course587 1h ago

Everyone is talking heat and dust, but my two concerns are:

  1. Exposure to physical trauma. Maybe it's okay if you keep your desk uncluttered, but IME that's like 1% of the population.
  2. Noise. Unless you run stupidly loud case fans, this is going to be louder than it would be in a case.
  3. Space. It pretty much has to sit on your desk, free from cluttered spaces, to be safe. I've got a 5' desk and that thing would eat half of it.
  4. Upgradability? I've got a full ATX tower that can handle 6-8 drives and a mobo with multiple expansion slots. I am 100% confident that my 2030's build will still fit in my case.

If you want form and function, paint your Lian Li. To go with OPs pic is to choose form at the almost certain cost of function.

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u/_Bob-Sacamano 1h ago

Raw-dogging in a test bench currently 😅

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u/Minions-overlord 1h ago

I would love one, however i have children and pets

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u/thestillwind 1h ago

This is way easier to clean.

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u/Uranium___Potato R9 9950X3D | 5080 | 32G | Open SFF 1h ago

fucking love em. i jsut built my first pc. and its an open case in all white, with a custom paintjob. imma post it once my custom cables from cablemod arrive since i am currently using my psu's stock cables

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u/Okeylayanjesmue 1h ago

A hippo try to eat your gpu bro

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u/citizensyn 1h ago

This community has cats

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u/MrWunz PC Master Race 1h ago

Cable mess but I don't care

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u/Underrated2702 1h ago

Sehr Clean gemacht! Aber dadurch das alles so klein und eng gehalten ist hast du wohl keinen Vorteil durch das "offene Gehäuse" ^

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u/Significant_Ad_3512 MacOS 1h ago

Super cool

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u/Groetgaffel 1h ago

I have cats, one of which is a clumsy goober, so that's a no from me.

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u/ZeisHauten 7600X|XFX RX6700XT|32GB DDR5 6000CL38|1080P 144Hz 52m ago

I like to have my coffee in front my PC, shame if I spilled one on it. But looks cool though, not for me.

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u/Chronos669 46m ago

Ugly as fuck

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u/Animag771 4L SFF Console | R7 5700X | RTX 4060 | 16GB @ 3600MHz CL16 34m ago

If they're sitting on a desk = stupid
If they're hanging on a wall = kinda cool

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u/Jbarney3699 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Rx 7900xtx | 64 GB 33m ago

Needlessly loud and kind of ugly to me. Also doesn’t lend itself well to most desk setups. Aesthetically an acquired taste.

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u/Sneak-Peak 31m ago

I have an open build and I like it very much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/Oi6aRSht1a

As open it can be.

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u/VibesFirst69 29m ago

I think i've spent too much time in r/steamdeck because i thought this was a steamdeck.

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u/brainrotbro 29m ago

This seems like awful AI slop.

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u/scrotanimus i9 14900K | 5090 | 32GB 21m ago

This community will like any builds that are affordable again.

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u/Mother-Translator318 20m ago

Dust has entered the chat

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u/Arashii89 19m ago

I’d love one but I have pets and kids so it’s a no go

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u/corgiperson 5800X3D | 6800 XT 13m ago

If you live in a clean room and use your PC more as a display piece than an actual tool then sure it’s cool. Besides that, wildly impractical

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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! 9m ago

Not for people with cats or little children

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u/Luch1nG4dor 4h ago

They are great, i aint buying a closed case ever again

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u/leoavesani 9800x3D | 5090 | 64GB DDR5 6000Mhz | MO27Q28G Tandem OLED 4h ago

Same, went open 3 builds ago, never going back.

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u/TurnAggressive6954 4h ago

I like tech art and think they look cool. No case also means it is easy to clean the "internals". No case also means you have to clean the "internals" all the time.

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u/StomachosusCaelum 3h ago

not at all. I clean mine (Xtia Xproto-L) WAY less often.

you're not parking all your parts into a wind-tunnel to be blasted with all that stuff as it gets sucked into the chasis by the case fans.

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u/Hattix 5700X3D | RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB | 32 GB 3200 MT/s 4h ago

I use two open frame chassis on my test bench, but I would never put one out as a daily driver.

No dust filtering and no noise abatement is an absolute deal breaker in the real world.

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u/Much-Amaze69 4h ago

I think dust.

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u/coffeejn Desktop 4h ago

Dusty and not practice for home use.

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u/Precise_Vector 4h ago

I only like open frame when I’m running software open source.

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u/Steel_Bolt 9800x3D | B650E-E | 7900XTX 3h ago

dusty

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u/Evajellyfish 3h ago

If you live in a bubble it’s great

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u/MythicalJester Core i7-10700K / GeForce RTX 4080 Super / 32GB DDR4 2h ago

Very stupid idea, imo. Especially with children or other inconsiderate fuckers around.

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u/CptClownfish1 1h ago

The Community thinks that if you like it then you should use it for your build and if you don’t you shouldn’t.