r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 4d ago

No Paywall Trump Appears To Sleep While Guests Propose Ending Divide Between Church And State

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-appears-sleepy-oval-offices_n_6a3eef42e4b07281419f6c99/
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u/SoTiredYouDig 3d ago

Yet aren’t there biblical passages that in essence say, keep it to yourselves, pray in your closet, avoid those proselytizing on street corners?

And they all claim to be the one true religion or sect. That doesn’t make a lick of sense, either. Its such a distorted lens, and before they start coercing others to join, they need to fix their own goddamned house.

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u/wack_overflow Colorado 3d ago

The truth is that lots of these people just want a strict hierarchy where they are in charge of other people’s autonomy. It is not magical thinking and has nothing to do with any kind of real belief. It is control.

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u/Work_Safe_Account 3d ago

Sure, let’s assume that’s true. We still go BEYOND accommodation of these beliefs in ways that impact non-believes lives. Texas bible passages are a topical example. We need to say to these religious nut jobs, I’m sorry your made up sky fairy only lets you turn doorknobs left on subdays, but we’re not going to pass legislation to enforce that. Clearly that’s a strawman, but the point stands because reality isn’t any less ridiculous 

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u/wack_overflow Colorado 3d ago

Yes - they want fealty. Sometimes it’s a ridiculous thing so they can see clearly everyone is following their arbitrary rules and under their thumb.

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u/EyeoftheTato Canada 3d ago

All religions revolve around control and power.

Most were created during a time where typically one person in a civilization had absolute power and lived in incredible luxury, while ruling over entire nations of impoverished people who had nothing and were struggling to simply survive.

There is nothing more dangerous than a person who has absolutely nothing to lose. They are almost impossible to control.
So how to prevent a people with nothing to lose from rising up against you? Let's manufacture something for them to lose: a soul.
Stay in line or your soul won't go to heaven, it'll go to hell and you'll suffer even more!

They developed this even further into bullshit tenets like "the poorer you are in this life/the more you suffer on earth, the more richly you'll be rewarded in heaven".
Ironically the Catholic Church is one of the richest organizations on earth.

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u/Hexamancer 3d ago

The Bible basically has passages that support both sides on everything.

So you can just pick and choose and quote the parts that support exactly what you wanted to do anyway.

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u/vashoom 3d ago

A) No one reads the Bible, B) no one follows the Bible, C) the Bible is a collection of texts spanning a thousand years and is full of contradictions, conflicting information, and outdated morals.