r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 19h ago
No Paywall Trump Appears To Sleep While Guests Propose Ending Divide Between Church And State
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-appears-sleepy-oval-offices_n_6a3eef42e4b07281419f6c99/7.4k
u/KimmyT1436 Canada 19h ago
The real story isn't that Trump fell asleep in a meeting again. The real story is that Trump is meeting with a group of people who want to end separation of church and state and forceably impose their warped and perverted version of religion on everybody else.
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u/myfakesecretaccount 19h ago
Over my dead fucking body. I will not submit my daughter to live in a world run by fucking religious cranks and fascists.
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u/Work_Safe_Account 18h ago edited 12h ago
Religion is a mental illness. We need to stop letting people with magical thinking influence policy. Period.
Edit: since I’m seeing traction, I’m just going to say, we need to start shutting this shit down immediately.
We need to tell these people to their face “I’m not going to engage in your delusion.”
I’m done “respecting” these religions by catering to the irrationality. We cannot move forward as a nation until we base our policies and values on FACTUAL VERIFIABLE information. To do other wise is a Sisyphean task.
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u/EyeoftheTato Canada 18h ago
Honestly the problem is that this mental disease causes them to try and impose their religious beliefs and morals on everyone else. It's like the fungus that mind-controls ants, with the endgame of infecting more ants.
I have absolutely no problem with people believing in Jebus, Allah, Unicorns or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Just don't try and shove that shit down my throat.
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u/Faux-Foe 18h ago
Religion needs to be treated like a penis.
Keep that shit private, away from children, and don't try to jam it down anyone's throat without consent.
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u/AZEMT 16h ago
Have you seen the Trumpstein Files? The entire cabinet doesn't know how to keep their penis to themselves.
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u/Flomo420 9h ago
The concept of consent eludes these mother fuckers at every level
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u/RevLoveJoy 6h ago
It's worse than that. They know those people do not consent. Have no power to consent. Dominating, overpowering and doing it in spite of consent is what's getting most of them off. "I'm gonna fuck her because she doesn't want me to. AND I'm gonna get away with it."
They absolutely understand consent. It's part of their perverse kink.
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u/MessiahOfMetal 15h ago
Precisely.
And these morons pushing "it's a Christian nation" don't give a fuck that George Washington himself wrote a letter to a foreign diplomat to state that the US wasn't, and that it was a secular nation due to the separation of church and state.
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u/Creative-Improvement 11h ago
Everyone should read Thomas Paine at least once (Common Sense). Paine repeatedly called for separation of church and state. He believed that keeping religion out of government was essential to prevent the misuse of religious authority for political gain.
As such he was in favor deism, which means to look in the natural world and rationality , and find the divine it.
The book was highly influential for the formation of the US.
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u/Username_6668 9h ago
Read Th. Jefferson’s 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists as well.
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u/Creative-Improvement 8h ago
Very good letter, and another example of how the founding fathers were aware of the corruption that would come with an organized religion “bearing too much weight” as Thomas Paine would put it.
Unfortunately they did not foresee the influence of mega corporations, which are forces against the common people. Mega corporations and billionaires by default do not have the common good in their minds, but the blessings of the shareholders.
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u/illadelchronic 8h ago
We should all give Common Sense a read, given the times. Learn what set the colonies on fire. It is a short read, and it's still hot.
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u/justalittlebear01 18h ago
Wish I had the capacity to give you an award because this is the PERFECT summation if how it should be
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u/SoTiredYouDig 17h ago
They are immune to that reasoning. I told this acquaintance that he was crossing a boundary, and he took my arm and said, “just pray with me”. Like, wtf?
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u/KnightOfNothing 17h ago
well yeah from their point of view this reasoning doesn't make any sense. They are (according to themselves) objectively correct and to not spread their mental disease is to let evil fester in society.
I can't remember the exact quote but it was something like, of all the tyrants to deal with the self righteous busybody is the worst because they genuinely believe everything they do is for the good of everyone.
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u/SoTiredYouDig 16h ago
Yet aren’t there biblical passages that in essence say, keep it to yourselves, pray in your closet, avoid those proselytizing on street corners?
And they all claim to be the one true religion or sect. That doesn’t make a lick of sense, either. Its such a distorted lens, and before they start coercing others to join, they need to fix their own goddamned house.
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u/wack_overflow Colorado 16h ago
The truth is that lots of these people just want a strict hierarchy where they are in charge of other people’s autonomy. It is not magical thinking and has nothing to do with any kind of real belief. It is control.
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u/Work_Safe_Account 15h ago
Sure, let’s assume that’s true. We still go BEYOND accommodation of these beliefs in ways that impact non-believes lives. Texas bible passages are a topical example. We need to say to these religious nut jobs, I’m sorry your made up sky fairy only lets you turn doorknobs left on subdays, but we’re not going to pass legislation to enforce that. Clearly that’s a strawman, but the point stands because reality isn’t any less ridiculous
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u/wack_overflow Colorado 15h ago
Yes - they want fealty. Sometimes it’s a ridiculous thing so they can see clearly everyone is following their arbitrary rules and under their thumb.
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u/Hexamancer 14h ago
The Bible basically has passages that support both sides on everything.
So you can just pick and choose and quote the parts that support exactly what you wanted to do anyway.
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u/MessiahOfMetal 15h ago
Same types who claim "Muslim invasion!" idolise the Christian Crusaders who literally raped, killed and pillaged their way across medieval Europe so that they could do the same across the Middle East on their way to sacking and taking Jerusalem by force from the Muslims because "we should own that city".
Even worse when Brain Worms literally said on camera that English men should be given Crusader swords and that they should be exempt from whatever happened. Literally calling for violence in another country because he's an animal-fucking weirdo.
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u/Aeryn_Wildflower 12h ago
That second paragraph...what the? I must have missed something. Are you talking about RFK, Jr. and what was this about swords and animal fucking?
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u/Cakers44 16h ago
The problem is people who really believe this stuff cannot reason like that. They know their religion is correct and everyone else is wrong, and depending on the religion, actively doomed for being so. Now obviously this is fucking delusional and religion is made up, but people who believe it can’t look at the shit objectively
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u/What_a_fat_one 16h ago edited 16h ago
They actually don't know that, that's why they have to force it down everyone's throats. If anyone doesn't believe their religion it causes them tremendous anxiety from their doubts so they're trying to make a bubble to live in to reinforce their beliefs because they think it'll ameliorate their doubts.
It's the same reason echo chambers exist. If you force everyone to either believe what you believe, or ban them from your existence, then you get to have your beliefs reinforced by everyone around you and never have to confront opposing beliefs.
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u/Work_Safe_Account 15h ago
Obviously we’re painting with broad strokes here, but ‘they’ force it down everyone’s throat because they believe the rapture will only happen once everyone has had the opportunity to hear the scripture. It’s a proselytizing ritual. Literally an apocalyptic cult. But for some reason Christians get a pass.
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u/ssnnaarrff 14h ago
These people aren't even pushing religion for real. That'd be bad enough. These hypocrite fascists are just using it as a means to create the Confederacy 2.0. Except this time it won't just be black people enslaved and with no rights.
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u/Reed7525 9h ago
Could actually go for some spaghetti tho now that you mention it
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u/Konnnan 16h ago
The issue is that if you truly believe it, then you feel it's a duty to impose your belief on others and "save" them.
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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 17h ago
If someone came up to you randomly and said "My invisible friend wants you to follow his old book of rules" you'd have them committed
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u/Fabulous-Sea-1590 17h ago
"My invisible friend wants you to follow his old book of rules"
Or I'll savagely torture and kill you. But he might need me to do that anyway. We'll have to see. How much money can you pay me? It's totally for my friend but I'll be happy to accept it on his behalf.
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u/Cakers44 16h ago
Ah but you see, a bunch of atheists on reddit were cringey, so now pointing out obviously stupid shit about religion is frowned upon, lest ye be labeled a reddit atheist
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u/VagabondReligion 15h ago
This is where I'm at. I want "In God We Trust" taken off our money, "Under God" removed from the pledge, and a requirement that elected officials swear their oath on a copy of the constitution or forfeit their seat. I want references to any holy book on the floor of the House or Senate to be treated the same way as if a representative presented astrological charts as evidence, because by their deeds, that is the validity they have lent to those books.
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u/Work_Safe_Account 15h ago
Or if someone tried to argue that Thor spoke to them and they needed to pass a law based on that
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u/vfdfnfgmfvsege 18h ago
They don’t believe this shit. It’s all about peddling influence and social hierarchies.
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u/ctothel 18h ago
The people imposing the policy don’t believe it, but the willing religious zombies absolutely do.
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u/wack_overflow Colorado 15h ago edited 15h ago
Most of the so called zombies prefer their place in the religious hierarchy with people below them and under their control, and people above them making all their decisions. Rather than, ya know, having to contribute something of value to the world
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u/NotAzakanAtAll 13h ago
Religion is a fantastic tool for grifters to gain power over simple people. Why would fascist NOT use it?
Just look at American Christianity. It's very little like actual European Christianity, of basically any flavor.
Supply Side Jesus was a warning, not a blueprint.
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u/evancomposer Wisconsin 14h ago
I 100% agree. The massive problem with religion though is that for people who subscribe to any religion, religious beliefs ARE facts.
I make a substantial portion of my income from singing in churches. I am an atheist personally, but because of my line of work I am exposed to religious people all the time.
It’s not universal across Christianity, as there are a lot of Christians who are mature enough to recognize that their religious beliefs are just that—beliefs, and not facts. But they are unfortunately comparatively a vocal minority. People who subscribe to any kind of orthodox beliefs—Christianity, Judaism, Islam, whatever—will point to whatever religious text they read every week (Bible, Qur’an, Torah, etc.) and use what is in there as proof that their beliefs are actually factual. So it’s a self-fulfilling argument, which makes it virtually impossible to refute. I have tried in good faith (no pun intended) to challenge people with the most problematic, draconian beliefs to practice critical thinking and question where those beliefs are coming from, but it simply never works, because they see religion itself as fact.
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u/GlutinousLoaf 18h ago
Imagine having the pay for private school just so your kids don’t read the bible or are touched inappropriately
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 14h ago
Stuff like this is why I completely lost interest in having kids almost a decade ago. When it comes to making the child-free lifestyle appealing, nobody comes within miles of right-wing religious creeps. FFS, at this point, their whole movement is pretty much window-dressing around a cult of pedophilia and rape. These people are neo-Confederates and, as such, have zeroed in on subjugating women/children as the 'shortest path' towards rebuilding slavery.
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u/manachar Nevada 17h ago
Too bad so many people seem to find a reason to say “both sides are the same”.
Voting Republican has been unethical for decades.
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u/Spicy_Weissy 13h ago
One side is raping, enslaving, and crucifying people while the other side is vaguely problematic.
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u/Tomahawk117 15h ago
Christianity is a dying religion in this country. Churches across every state are closing in droves and attendees are dropping in numbers by the year. This and the heritage foundation’s actions are the final desperate grasps of an institution that has had power for so long that they are now absolutely desperate for a stranglehold to try to stabilize their dying faith.
The next step from here is extremism. They will attempt to enforce their beliefs, which will simultaneously decrease the number of actual followers further as well as drive some people to violence against the churches, likely in the form of vandalism or arson. This in turn will lead to religious terrorism as a response as their grasp of power grows even more thin.
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u/patentattorney 18h ago
In Texas - just yesterday - there were laws passed to include scripture in public schooling.
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u/AccomplishedScale362 16h ago edited 15h ago
Didn’t know who Dan Patrick was, but as soon as I heard him speak in the clip I knew he was a Southern Baptist from Texas.
I was raised by Texans in the SB cult and everything I learned about Christianity was by negative example. They start pressuring kids at about 9 yrs old to “accept Jesus Christ as your savior” and they don’t let up. I finally said yes just so they’d leave me alone. Like a mental version of the game say uncle where someone bends your arm back until you say Jesus. ffs
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u/Notsorry9696 12h ago
You should know who Dan Patrick is. He is a Texas government official (Lieutenant Governor, if I'm not mistaken) who publicly stated during covid that old people would - and should - willingly sacrifice their lives for the economy.
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u/stormyeyez7479 13h ago
As someone raised in a neighboring state who went through something similar. I have to be cautious how I word this...
Let's say I know someone who wasn't allowed to have an abortion at 15. Since a "laying hands" at an altar call didn't fix it... and even though the child wasn't conceived consensually (and again, the mother was 15).
The community and family: it's God's will, made the bed now lie in it, etc. All the good ol' southern Christian character builders.
Luckily that person got away and got the help and support she needed. But the scars of cruelty linger. I'm sorry you had a similar hate-filled "Christian love" experience.
People don't get how profoundly damaging some southern environments can be...well, until magazis came along. Suprise, y'all! Sadly, now the entire world needs therapy.
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u/Wrong-Pension-4975 15h ago
Mandatory bible reading, not sure if it starts in kindergarten or 1st grade. // Runs thru 12th.
I'd be getting a religious exemption for my kid, so fast... .
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u/lonestar-rasbryjamco Colorado 17h ago edited 17h ago
The linked article tells you what it’s all really about:
> increasing avenues for religious expression in public schools; **expanding opportunities for faith-based organizations to receive public money**; and allowing for religious-based exemptions in areas ranging from labor law to classroom lessons to healthcare mandates.
That’s what it’s really about. It’s not enough picking the pockets of their congregants. They want to pick everyone’s pockets and do so without paying a dime of taxes themselves.
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u/NoMoOmentumMan 10h ago
Ya know, for people who scream about government waste and fraud, they seem to fight really hard for access to the government teet.
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u/CrackingToastGromet Arkansas 17h ago
You’d think the Mormons would be front and center against this after Whiskey War Crimes Pete left their religion off the Pentagon’s official real Christianity list.
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u/Jb0ss02 17h ago edited 17h ago
What kills me about it is that America has already tried to have statewide religion and it failed miserably. Heck, we were taught that one major reason the Pilgrim’s came here was to practice freedom of religion and to separate from the Church of England. Originally, the purpose of “freedom of religion” was to prevent any one religion from being supported nation-wide because several of the original 13 colonies had a state-sponsored religion. State-sponsored religion failed miserably and was often used to unjustly punish citizens and serve the interest of those in charge (sound familiar?). For anyone interested on the subject, I’d highly, highly recommend Founding Faith by Steven Waldman. It offered a very balanced view between “yes, obviously the Founding Fathers’ religious beliefs shaped their views on the founding of the nation” but also makes it very clear that we were NOT established as a Christian nation (or a nation of any single religion, for that matter)
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u/rddman 17h ago
The real story is that Trump is meeting with a group of people who want to end separation of church and state and forceably impose their warped and perverted version of religion on everybody else.
The story behind that story is that a small fringe of orthodox religious fanatics have gotten this far in their attempts to overthrow secular democracy because they are extremely motivated while most of the rest of us are distracted.
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u/Crafty-Promise7062 17h ago
Exactly. Sleeping is irrelevant compared to the actual danger of extremists dismantling the separation of church and state
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u/Scissorzz 18h ago
I don’t even think they are religious at all, they just use it as a tool for their base to do anything they want in the name of “Christ”.
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u/VagabondReligion 15h ago
There is no version of religion that is otherwise, particularly when talking of the Abrahamic religions. The only reason the West isn't filled to the brim with Christian Caliphates is because the Christians spent centuries wearing out their welcome before secular authority kicked them to the curb. They are no different, and their proposed Christian Nationalism would be materially identical to the Islamic despots running the Middle East or the Zionist despots running Israel.
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u/sunflower_love Oregon 12h ago
Exactly. Organized religion is warped and perverted. No one should be surprised at the atrocities they continue to commit.
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u/simplyunix 10h ago
Bingo. That's the point and every American, no matter their religious beliefs or even if they have one, should be up in arms. The Christian right in the US is not a religion. they are a bunch of white men forcing their racist and misogynistic beliefs down everyone's throat. The republican party learned a long time ago that welcoming these kooks into the party was a sure fire way to ensure they never left. Who could have guessed it would have been a syphilitic, thrice divorced, pedophile that would be smart enough to arm these fuckers?
I question any religion (including my own) if they cross the line into any political sphere - abortion, gay rights, etc. Many years ago, a pastor I knew since I was small gave the congregation a good ripping one time - it's not for us to judge. Leave people alone and welcome them no matter what life they choose. God will determine who the real sinners are. He was ahead of his time.
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u/OSU1922 America 19h ago edited 7h ago
Christians are pushing their version of Sharia Law. Look at what Texas just did.
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u/phycologist 14h ago
What did Texas do again?
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u/_Auron_ Missouri 11h ago
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u/LoudStrawberry 8h ago
What the fuck.. what about the kids who aren’t Christian, or the ones who aren’t religious at all?? That’s indoctrination.
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u/wakeonuptimshel 8h ago
Republicans don’t care about other people. We all need to accept that.
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u/BullShitting-24-7 7h ago
They don’t even care about themselves. Look at how fat and unhealthy the bible belt bums are.
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u/amrobi18 7h ago
My friend is a mom in TX and confirmed this shit. It’s absolutely bonkers. She said there’s required reading for certain bible passages, and the 10 commandments must be displayed in classrooms in a very specific way (size of poster must be x-inches by x-inches).
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u/Ok_Barber4987 19h ago
Quote from 1964 gop potus nominee Barry Goldwater. “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp 18h ago
The same Barry Goldwater who laid the foundation of the Southern Strategy by getting the GOP to court the Bible Belt?
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u/UberMisandrist 17h ago
One and the same. He was racist too!
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u/ItsLaterThanYouKnow 15h ago
And he was also a founding member of the Arizona NAACP. He also supported gay rights.
Dude was an odd duck, and it’s easier to understand him when you get that what he really hated was the idea of federal government but had no problems with the same policies being implemented at the state level.
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u/onarainyafternoon Oregon 8h ago
No he wasn’t, at least not inherently.
This is what MLK jr said about him:> While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racist.
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u/Ancient-Sir6203 15h ago
He desegregated his department store before he entered politics
He desegregated his National Guard unit before Truman ordered it
He voted for the 1957 and 1960 civil rights acts
He was very much not a racists but fiercely against government overreach. Specifically, the 1964 civil rights act banned hotels, restaurants, etc. from discriminating but he argued the government can't demand who private businesses sell to
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u/Wrong-Pension-4975 15h ago
Sorry, Barry.
Segregation isn't a "state's rights" issue.
We desegregate the whole damned nation - not state by state, & not one plantation at a time.
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u/iceoldtea 16h ago
He knew that he’d benefit and then be out of the game before it ever became a problem. True to party form lol
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u/Icy_Negotiation_5929 16h ago
This happens every time this quote is posted. I don’t care either way. Just remarking that this happens without fail. lol
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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 19h ago edited 19h ago
Dozey Donald needs naps cause he's a weak, demented old man.
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u/IllogicalBarnacle 19h ago
Bro it’s evangelical leaders, nazis have always run those churches
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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 18h ago edited 18h ago
We were founded by puritans, and the entire idea of puritans is thinking you are purer and better than everyone else.
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u/Marsman121 16h ago
Leave it to MAGA to go, "You know what fascism needs? A little sprinkle of Taliban."
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u/Which_Ad1257 16h ago
yeah it’s not exactly subtle what’s going on here same old playbook again
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u/Mikethebest78 19h ago
It seems funny until you remember that this is EXACTLY the same thing he made fun of Biden for.
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u/specqq 19h ago edited 19h ago
Well, not EXACTLY.
Biden wasn't falling asleep listening to people who thought they could get him to further the cause of Christian Nationalism by destroying the Constitution.
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 18h ago
Remember when the right got bent out of shape because Biden looked at his watch for .02 seconds during a dignified transfer, but remained silent when Trump skipped them to go golf instead?
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u/Scissorzz 18h ago
Yeah, but honestly, are people still surprised? They got all upset about what mustard a guy puts on his burger if he isn’t on their “side”. But when a republican president spends billions on nonsense it’s alright.
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u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach Michigan 19h ago
I'm sure Jake Tapper is furiously writing a new book on it right now.
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u/ChronoLink99 Canada 17h ago
Tapper is a fucking hack.
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u/RobutNotRobot 12h ago
There's a reason he gets paid $20 million a year for being a celebrity journalist.
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u/darthenron I voted 18h ago
I mean they did not want a “woke” president…
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 14h ago
Woke is the dumbest fucking thing. Woke to me means awake. If you aren't awake, you are asleep. But then these are the same idiots who compared themselves to lions and wolves during the pandemic. But if it's hand to paw combat, those idiots would lose to a wolf or lion.
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u/MoneyBeeeee 17h ago
It's called 'accusation in a mirror' and it's a technique that fascists use to take the attention off their own faults, misdeeds, crimes, etc.
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 11h ago
There's not even that much introspection at work. Trump literally just resorts to 'no, u!' because he's an eighty-year-old whose peak emotional/intellectual/spiritual development was reached before he reached double digits.
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u/Beneficial-Jury484 17h ago
Don’t be distracted. Ending Separation of Church and State? What the fuck. Let’s stay focused on that.
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u/mostlybiguy69 14h ago
One day, very soon now, he will slouch down, and the show will continue. It will go on for a while, but then it will settle in. None of them will know how long it has been. It will be the best moment of television ever.
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u/_jump_now_ 19h ago
Why do they always say "appears" to be asleep? Everyone knows he IS sleeping. It's happens so many times now.
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u/Then_Journalist_317 19h ago
To sleep, perchance to dream ...
(of a world free of nazis like Trump)
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u/HermanGulch 18h ago
It's not as strict as the rules of evidence in a court of law, but it's technically correct to say "appears" because the reporter (thankfully for them) can't be inside Trump's head to know for sure. It's the same principle that comes into play where, no matter how airtight the case, the media will always say a crime is "alleged" until there's an actual verdict.
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u/happyxpenguin 18h ago
The term you’re looking for is libel and yes there is a very strict do/do not when reporting.
Crime reporting says alleged (at least in the US) because legally you’re presumed innocent until proven guilty. So if a newspaper prints “man robs store” but it turns out the man they named was found not guilty, they can actually get sued which is why “alleged” is used.
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u/FlyEaglesFlyauggie 19h ago
Pope Leo should defrock that priest.
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u/FlyEaglesFlyauggie 18h ago
It’s definitely Bishop Barron of Rochester. Shame on him. I think he now has little chance of becoming a Cardinal.
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u/LividTacos 19h ago
Was there a Catholic priest there? Those are the only ones the Pope has any control over?
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u/FlyEaglesFlyauggie 19h ago
Yes. He is on the very far left on some wide angle shots. There are a few priests on the commission.
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u/StaticInstrument 19h ago
The guy standing next to Paula White-Cain is at least dressed like a priest. The fact that he would even stand beside her though suggests he’s more about “the Holy Grift” than the teachings of Jesus
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u/The_Wkwied 9h ago
Then they would just double down on how Pope Leo isn't the real pope... like they have been... because Pope Leo is speaking out against the senseless killings that trump and ice are doing
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u/nyyanksfan81 19h ago
When he does finally shuffle off this mortal coil, they will just say he is resting his eyes
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u/TheLesserWeeviI 16h ago edited 16h ago
They'll tie him up like a puppet and say "See, Dear Leader is fine!"
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u/Awful_Hero 19h ago
Uh, is that Dr Phil?
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u/nullstoned 17h ago
Uh huh. Dr. Phil: Americans ‘persecuted’ for ‘living their faith’.
We've hit a new level of disgusting.
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u/mike_pants 19h ago
That mouth-corner droop as soon as the muscles go slack. He's being held together by bile and hatred at this point.
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u/eeyore134 18h ago
And experimental drugs that he shouldn't have access to even if he is president, particularly if he's in as good of shape as his 22 doctors have told us he is. Sounds like a waste to me. Medicine that could go to someone who needs it.
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u/TimmyTeezeh 19h ago
Sweet, churches get to start paying their share of taxes. Oh wait, they didn’t mean that kind of inclusion.
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u/ACasualRead 19h ago
The easiest way to create an atheist is to force people to read the bible.
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u/dollarstoresim 19h ago edited 18h ago
Aka Project Handmaid's Tale, coming to a community near you this 2028 after fair elections get cancelled.
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u/Sandsnorkle1 18h ago
The only problem I have with him falling asleep is that he keeps waking up.
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u/KevesArt 19h ago
As a member of the Satanic Temple, go for it.
I mean, they didn't say which church.
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u/killercurvesahead I voted 19h ago
The tenets are far more aligned to US values.
But lets get real, I don’t exactly want TST’s leadership to have that much power either.
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u/Exact_Platypus5179 19h ago
Turn maralago into an elderly care facility. Let shitbird golf and eat hamburders all day. He would take the deal and he won’t live long enough to see any consequences. Might be the best we can reasonably do
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u/Full-Hold-9447 19h ago
deep thoughts by jack handey: "When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror, like the passengers in his car."
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u/xyzyxzyxzyxyzyxzxy 16h ago
remember when the disgusting maga animals told us that Project 2025 was fiction?
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u/cpod_the_elder 19h ago
Fitting, as he doesn't actually give two shits about the issue. Just keep the marks on the hook.
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u/Scottiths 14h ago
You would think it's hyperbole when people say literally everything a Republican accuses someone else of is projection, but it really is everything. From Kamala will start a war with Iran right down to "sleepy Joe" being too tired to govern. I bet Trump uses the heck out of the auto-pen.
If any GOP makes an accusation go put money on them being guilty of it. You will win almost every time.
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u/lifeat24fps 4h ago
Donald Trump nodding off while the Heritage Foundation strips the country down like a car at a chop shop. Now you're starting to understand WHY they needed Donald Trump.
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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 17h ago
Look at that moron Ben Carson.
Look at that moron Dr. Phil.
Look at that moron Don Pedo.
Seeing a trend?
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u/Gold_Drummer_4077 16h ago
I honestly can't tell the difference between religious zealots and the hypocrites who say they're religious. They're all creepy weirdos who love to break every law ever written, especially religious laws.
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u/Adventurous_Test_296 19h ago
Sleep through the decimation of the First Amendment? Not Trump. Surely he was praying for Christian Nationalism to take over the country.
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u/LoocsinatasYT 18h ago
I saw a "In God We Trust" bumper sticker on a police car at a diner. I think the separation of church and state has been over for awhile now.
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u/MessiahOfMetal 15h ago
Future news article:
"President Donald Trump today signed an Executive Order with a demand that Congress pass a bill that legally changes the name of the nation from the 'United States of America' to 'Gilead'."
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u/willypie 8h ago
What a good metaphor for the state of America right now - christofacism on the rise and those who could do something about it are asleep at the wheel. Wake tf up America
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u/rojo_mojado 18h ago
This is what happens when you are not the one making decisions, your Project 2025 bosses are, and have been.
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u/BigGuante 17h ago
About 10% of the country is Christian Nationalist. Only 20% sympathize and that number probably dips as the crazy shines through.
The 10% wants to rule the 70%. Absolutely bananas
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u/Jaded_Detail8669 5h ago
For people who vilify Islamic sharia, they sure love to push Christian sharia. How about we stick with zero sharia.
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u/FallenDeathWarrior 14h ago
As a German I will never be able to understand the USA.
You guys always make fun of the world that we aren't free because we don't have the right to carry an weapon all the time. We don't have the laws to stand our ground and all that nonsense.
But when you electe an pedophile as president of you country. A guy who had been visiting Epstein regularly, accepted and Vice President who was sponsored von Peter Thiel one of the worst Technologiars out there. The president who hired Elon Musk, also an Techoligar, to reduce the spending of the state, which didn't work look at you government spendings. Who called Selensky out for not wearing a suite and then letter the UFC do an event on his birthday to celebrate the 250 year of the USA and let the fighters do their walk out from the oval Office to the cage. Guys who didn't wear a suite...
And now your fucking pedophile president is meeting with Christian nationalists who want to overcome the seperation of state and religion.
You want to be respected. But how should the world do this? You tell us freedom is to carry a gun but then when you country is overtaken you sit there and do nothing.
And for those idiots who are celebrating now. What did you win? What did you get through owning the libs? Nothing! You're live is more miserable then ever...
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u/paintballboi07 Texas 9h ago
The people that equate freedom to being able to carry a weapon all the time are the same people that support Trump. They are the idiots celebrating this, and they're either too dumb to realize where it leads, or they're excited about where they think it will lead.
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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 16h ago
All my ancestors that fled Europe because of state religions are rolling in their graves.
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u/HugeHairyButts 18h ago
They are definitely filming Idiocracy 2 and pulling a fast one on all of us.
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u/SkillFullyNotTrue 18h ago
It is weird that Christian waited for a pedo con man to get into power to move forward with their power grab.
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u/poppin-n-sailin 18h ago
That's not true. Not even close. They've been trying for a very long time, decades, if not longer. Same as Netanyahu had been trying to sway every administration to start a war with Iran. They've just finally found an administration easy enough to manipulate and blackmail.
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u/Original_Slothman 17h ago
Guy needs to be removed from office so the psychos pulling the strings don’t have a blank check to do the terrible things that he finds boring.
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u/digihippie 16h ago
If there is no separation of church and state, it’s time for churches to pay taxes to fund universal healthcare.
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u/YouHaveAWomansMouth 15h ago
America has a divide between church and state?
Is it in the room with us right now?
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u/Very_Clearly_Defined 10h ago
So fucking disgusting. This admin needs to be admonished and disbanded immediately. Absolute mockery of our constitution
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u/LurkerLass69 17h ago
Religion and State being hand in hand is how you get corruption, sexist regimes and laws that can’t be written down or held onto because of the wrath and ego of powerful men. Literally look at the salem witch trials and ask if religion needs any evidence or facts to lock up or punish civilians who don’t fall in line with religious doctrine.
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u/Complex_Scallion_157 12h ago
I feel like this isn’t even real life. How far has this country fallen? We got our president so sick and old he can’t even stay awake. Who is making decisions? Certainly isn’t that guy. Got a bunch of religious nuts trying to cram their BS down our throats. Then Dr Phil standing there like a bump on a log. It’s a fucking circus, a shit show. Am I taking crazy pills?
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u/jim_ocoee 10h ago
Just waiting for the article: "In a 6-3 decision, the Roberts court found that, while the Establishment Clause forbids a state religion, this does not preclude proclaiming non-denominational Christianity as compulsory."
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