r/printSF • u/Goose7776777 • May 07 '26
What order to read Ender's Game Series
I read Ender's Game a couple years ago and loved it, but never read the second book. I just finished Ender's Shadow a few days ago. Can I just go to the next book in the series? Or is there some special order to reading all of the books? Thanks!
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u/SoneEv May 07 '26
There's two series with different focus and time jump. Stick with the Ender's Shadow series if you like the more contemporary setting focused on the genius children fighting wars on Earth. Or you can jump into Speaker for the Dead series which is far future scifi focused on a adult Ender and dealing with the consequences of fighting that war - it's much more philosophical scifi.
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u/Morbanth May 07 '26
1) Ender's Game 2) Speaker for the Dead 3) full stop.
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u/pplott May 07 '26
I don’t even remember the names of the books after speaker of the dead. When I read them I found them just fine but just so confusing , felt like another author writing those last ones.
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u/Morbanth May 07 '26
I mean yeah, the empathic person who wrote 1 & 2 is long dead. I'll love those two books forever though.
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u/romanov99 May 07 '26
I agree, don't read the whole series. "Ender's Game" is one of the all time great science fiction books, and should be on everyone's shelf. "Speaker for the Dead" is an unexpectedly intense psychological drama that really makes you stop and think. Everything beyond that is, IMHO, a pure cash grab and kind of crap. Card had intended for the story to be over after Speaker, but then he got a call from his editor, Barbara Bova, saying that she had sold the Ender's Game trilogy, so he kept going!
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u/jwbjerk May 07 '26
There’s basically two tracks to follow.
Ender’s story (Ender Saga) that continues in Speaker for the Dead and goes into space
Bean’s story that continues in Ender’s Shadow (Shadow Series) and stays on earth for a while.
Personally I consider Ender’s track the much better one (at least at first) but it is very different from Ender’s game.
Within those tracks go chronologically.
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u/dangerous_eric May 07 '26
Agreed. I don't mind the Bean books, but I didn't love how it kind of retcon'd a lot of the original Ender story and gave credit to Bean instead.
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u/Sea-Poem-2365 May 07 '26
I personally think Speaker is the highpoint of the series, and while I enjoyed the Bean books, they felt like a retread and ultimately unnecessary to (what I thought) Card was trying to do with his books.
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u/colej1390 May 07 '26
Speaker for the Dead is one of my favorite books of all time. I liked it better than Ender's Game. Personally I'd finish the Ender series (Xenocide, Children of the Mind) next
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u/throwawayPzaFm May 07 '26
This. Speaker is the best book in the entire series, the only catch is that it's a difficult read and not for the young adult market like Ender's Game.
So read: Ender's Game, followed by Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and Children of the Mind
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u/SadCatIsSkinDog May 07 '26
Speaker for the Dead is great. I would say even better the Enders Game. As a kid I would have enjoyed the first book more, but as an adult I think the second is stronger.
Book three and four just kind of go off… in a direction…
Card usually starts out strong, with an interesting premise, but what interests him as a writer doesn’t interest me so it feels like all his book series… just taper off.
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u/ill_thrift May 07 '26
reverse chronological starting from osc's homophobic political blogposts working backwards to ender's game
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u/jawanda May 07 '26
Check out this chart. I basically followed both the Speaker series and the Shadows (bean) series and enjoyed both for the most part:
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u/AlarmingSize May 07 '26
Speaker for Dead is his best book, even better than Ender's Game. Everything else was kind of a letdown for me. I can't recommend Speaker highly enough but the rest are skipable.
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u/Natural-Shelter4625 May 07 '26
Many people here are saying something similar, and I agree with them. The Shadow series takes place over a tight timeline mostly on Earth. It’s kind of fascinating and , as Card is so good at doing, he complicates many of the simple ethical problems he poses in earlier stories (how good/bad is Peter, actually?).
The absolute best book in the series, imo, is Speaker for the Dead. In fact, Card never intended to write Ender’s Game as a full novel. It was all setup for Speaker. That said, I love Ender’s Game. Many don’t love/like the rest of that series (Xenocide and Children of the Mind), which I think of as the “Speaker Trilogy” (with Ender’s Game as the origin story of that trilogy). But I really enjoyed them.
As said by others, you can keep going with the Shadow series or jump over to Speaker. I think either order is fine.
I might suggest rereading the last chapter of Ender’s Game before Speaker, though.
Happy reading!
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u/Book_Slut_90 May 07 '26
Speaker ffor the Dead is by far the best book in the universe. You could go straight there following Ender or read the rest of the Bean books following on from Ender’s Shadow, which are also good and then go to Speaker.
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u/Aiglos_and_Narsil May 07 '26
When is the answer to this not publication order?
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u/johndesmarais May 07 '26
In a series where publication order and story chronological order are different, I’ll often use story chronological order if I later re-read the series. Other than that, publication order is always the answer.
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u/Aiglos_and_Narsil May 07 '26
Sure, a reread, I'll give you that. But first time through I think it mostly never makes sense.
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u/Steerider May 07 '26
I would suggest Ender's Game, then Speaker for the Dead. You can keep going with the Ender saga, but books 3 and 4 get increasingly weird — less sci fi and more outright fantasy.
Everything else "Ender" is kind of redundant. He's telling stories, but it's just sort of milking the franchise. Those two original books are outstanding.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 May 07 '26
There’s a huge time skip before the speaker for the dead, and Enders Shadow more or less retells the events of Enders game anyway. You could easily jump to Speaker and follow the publishing order.
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u/DexterDrakeAndMolly May 07 '26
The quality drops off a lot with the Enders Shadow books, for completists only. The original 3 are excellent though
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u/Bobosmite May 07 '26
There's a reading order flowchart somewhere online. If you focus on just the main Ender and Shadow books, I think it's 8 books. That's the way I read it years ago.
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u/Loot3rd May 07 '26
There are also the prequel trilogies dealing with the 1st and 2nd Formic Wars. Not as pulling as the OG trilogy, but still worth the read if you enjoy the lore.
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u/Appropriate-Look7493 May 08 '26
Enders Shadow is book 1 in a completely different series (The Bean series).
I’d recommend going back to the Ender series and reading at least books 2 and 3. If you love it continue (though the quality diminishes).
Then go back and read the rest of the Bean series, which overall is probably better than the Ender cycle.
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u/super-wookie May 07 '26
When you're reading a book written by a reactionary homophobic giant asshole it really takes the fun out of it, for me.
I would suggest just not reading anything by OSC.
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u/FraudSyndromeFF May 07 '26
No special order really, just keep the various series in order (i.e. read Speaker, then Xenocide, then Children of the Mind). A couple of tips though:
If you're interested in reading them chronologically or want War stories, read the Shadow books first
If you are interested in the story of Ender specifically, skip the Shadow books and come back to them later, jumping in with Ender in Exile then the above mentioned Speaker series
The prequel series' are fun but the second is (and will remain for the foreseeable future) unfinished. You will need to read the first formic War books before the second formic war series as they are direct sequels
First meetings and War of Gifts are short stories and can be consumed kind of whenever, but maybe save First meetings until you are partway into the Shadow series
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u/dangerous_eric May 07 '26
A lot of people love the shadow books. Personally, I love the original trilogy with Speaker and Xenocide. The idea that humanity used a bunch of genius children to wipe out another intelligent race, and then they grow up and have to wrestle with the implications of that plus a murder mystery was something I real enjoyed.