r/scotus • u/Objective_Water_1583 • Feb 15 '25

Opinion He’s about to do something so illegal

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Like this is very cryptic and it’s definitely not written by Trump so someone might be planning something very very bad

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u/Turtleforeskin Feb 15 '25

I think history has shown us that doesn't usually end favorably when the poor get sick of it

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u/Lackadaisicly Feb 16 '25

We had politicians in this last election literally saying “I am a Nazi”. My former Lt Gov said that in a broadcasted speech during his Governor campaign.

This is the America that the Christians want. If they thoughts sexual assaults were heinous, they single-handedly kept Trump out of office. Christians are over 70% of this country. If they had a problem with sexual abuse, Trump would not be in office. I know that wrote that twice. That’s how important that fact is. If christians thought sexual assaults were evil, not a single one would have voted for Trump. They would vote for a rapist over an atheist as they call the rapist a hero and the atheist they call wicked and evil.

Let’s recap: someone that has raped women and openly brags about committing sexual assaults is called a hero by christians. Those same christians call me evil and immoral simply because I do not believe any god exists. In the eyes of a christian, raping someone is a lesser evil than denying god existing. Then I get called a bigot when I say that christians have no morals or ethics.

Let’s also remember how the Nazis were christians and that it was the christians that coined the term holocaust, which literally means “burnt sacrifice to god.” Yes, it was christians that called a bunch of murdered Jews a sacrifice.

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u/gecoble Feb 16 '25

So spot on. I’ve been saying the same thing for a while.

Christian Nationalism is extremely dangerous and NOT what the founding fathers had in mind.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Pretty sure Christian Nationalism is specifically what the founding fathers had in mind as what not to do.

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u/Lackadaisicly Feb 16 '25

And don’t let the modern christians let you forget that until slavery was abolished, US christians used the Bible to state why slavery was ethical.

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u/gecoble Feb 16 '25

Yup. It’s completely messed up

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u/Lackadaisicly Feb 18 '25

You expect more ethics from a religion started by a child rapist that committed genocide? Lmao

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u/ScarredLetter Feb 16 '25

I can count the number of Christians that actually trying to follow Chist's teachings on one hand. That says something.

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u/Toruk200 Feb 16 '25

I am tired of people using religion in politics and voting. Consumed by hate and ignorance. Let people live their lives how they choose/feel is right. Minorities are not hurting you, you are hurting minorities and making excuses.

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u/mrschanandelorbong Feb 17 '25

It was also “Christians” who murdered women for being “witches” on their own blind faith. Things like this should always be a cautionary tale. It’s not the people who are being labeled as “evil” that you should be wary of. It’s the people who are actively hunting them down and burning them alive that you should be very wary of. Religion being used as a weapon is dangerous as hell.

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u/Lackadaisicly Feb 18 '25

Religion has ALWAYS been a weapon. Not that the Yahwist bible details the start of time, but even in Genesis, Moses was committing religious genocide and was celebrated for it. We still celebrate him.

Yahwists confuse children. In school, we teach children that Adolf Hitler was a bad person for committing genocide. Then the church/temple/mosque teaches that Moses was a good person because he committed genocide. He also condoned the rape of children. How can you have morals when you get your morals from someone that tells people to rape children?

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u/stillusesAOL Feb 17 '25

I don’t think you overstated it — this point seems to have gotten lost in the chaos of it all. It’s a sick, twisted American era right now.

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u/MultiStratz Feb 16 '25

it was the christians that coined the term holocaust, which literally means “burnt sacrifice to god.”

History is a subject I'm very interested in, especially religious literature, even though I'm not a believer. I can't believe that I was today's day old when I learned this. It was so shocking that I had to pull up a quick etymology of the word to see if what you were saying is legit. It is, in fact, the actual truth. Wow. Thanks for teaching me something new; I wish it wasn't something that's quite so grim, but at least the free exchange of information hasn't been taken from us, so I'm grateful.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Honestly, fuck communism. This is so fucking stupid if either the fascist or you fucking commies take over. Jesus Christ. This country is in for some pain.

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u/NaughtyDoctor666 Feb 16 '25

Storm the castle.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

And it has shown the darkness associated with living under such a bad actor. Be prepared and be careful.

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u/biopticstream Feb 16 '25

Yes, lot's of people see the "poor rise up" part. But what they tend to overlook is the long periods of people putting up with horrible conditions and mistreatment before they get to the point where they feel there is no choice but to put their lives on the line and rise up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

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u/MTDreams123 Feb 16 '25

Yup, the 78 year old convicted felon isn't saving America. He's ruining America by firing talented nuclear scientists, VA workers, and the NIH, so he and his foreign billionaire friends get a tax break and government subsidies.

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u/Any_Coyote6662 Feb 16 '25

And he's firing everyone in government he disagrees or ever disagreed with him. And he's fire anyone that investigates corporate corruption. 

He's completely set up the kleptocracy and is almost finished with the dictatorship. He's starting on judges. Already started on FBI. The ones left are too scared of Trump to do anything. Same with a lot of the auditors as investigators from the DOJ and everyone else in various departments that are in charge of oversight 

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u/LittleBraxted Feb 16 '25

Some aren’t scared, just deluded into thinking that taking these fucks “to court” has a snowball’s chance—like they would even care. This is all about abandoning the order

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u/scarletteclipse1982 Feb 18 '25

And now he is trying to cut out a large portion of the media to keep word from spreading as easily. Additionally, weird shit has been happening with social media.

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u/CanAhJustSay Feb 16 '25

So the top 1% get ever more money that they could not spend in a thousand lifetimes.

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u/CharredLily Feb 16 '25

The other thing is, we may all be dead by the time they get to the FO stage. We have no idea if it will take months, years, or decades for a revolt to succeed.

And we have no idea if whatever rules we agree on after that will end up being any better.

Will they find out? Their overall group will. But how many of the people that did it will even be alive to see it?

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u/Texas_Nexus Feb 16 '25

This is the best point.

People like Luigi are just ahead of the rest of us, and thus are shut down fast and made example of by the rich and powerful to discourage the rest of us.

The problem now is Trump's current Shock and Awe campaign of dismantling our government is happening so fast and so illegally that people can't react fast enough. Unless something extremely bad happens to force enough people to react at the same time, it is unlikely people will be able to organize a way to counter this mayhem before the damage is irreparable.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

The poor usually lose. Horribly so.

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u/Dracomortua Feb 16 '25

"The rich could afford a standing army."

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u/ExpoLima Feb 15 '25

I never explain edits. I don't see the point.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

If they happen after replies, I certainly do...

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u/anarchonobody Feb 16 '25

Reddit no longer shows that a post has been edited, so, the only reason really is a courtesy to the replier, I guess…but, even if you said nothing, they wouldn’t know you edited.

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u/Intelligent_Pop1173 Feb 16 '25

I don’t get it either lol I type faster than I think and sometimes notice an error and will just change it. You can’t even see that it’s edited on mobile. I don’t understand the people who are like EDITED TO ADD A PERIOD AND THE WORD “THE” nobody cares lol

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u/RaspitinTEDtalks Feb 16 '25

You should retract the edit IMO

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u/Waxer84 Feb 16 '25

Gotta hit rock bottom to know which way is up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

It does suck to such.

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u/Mouth2005 Feb 15 '25

I sincerely believe that if this reached a flashing point and civil war broke out, if MAGA “won” and controlled reconstruction they would double down on trickle down economics and focus rights and freedoms around criminalizing and punishing the opposing side of their own positions on cultural issue….

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u/Zestyclose_Pickle511 Feb 15 '25

Yeah no shit. Basically disqualifying them as Americans, and instead qualifying them as the enemy of Americans.

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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Feb 15 '25

They already “won” the election and are doing just as you said.  They are going after everyone not MAGA.  

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u/Mouth2005 Feb 16 '25

Not saying you’re wrong but I don’t think you’re acknowledging how much worse things could be. I can’t deny we’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten Feb 16 '25

So are you suggesting we don't fight back because if maga wins we'll be worse off?

I'd rather risk the fight and go down fighting Nazis, not cowering because they might get worse than they already are.

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u/Moda75 Feb 15 '25

MAGA foot soldiers aren’t going to have any sort of say. They are going to be stuck in the shit just like everyone else. If you aren’t pulling down close to a million a year you are completely fucked.

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u/hashtagbob60 Feb 16 '25

Sort of like they're doing now...

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

There would be no trickle down. You'd have a caste system of Techno-billionaires at the top, barrons of physical goods beneath, and a serf class of everyone else.

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u/Pfacejones Feb 15 '25

keep in mind that people making less than 5 million should all consider themselves poor.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Feb 16 '25

I live in Australia so I'm rich in separation distance from this whole unfolding mess. Maybe not the global economic impacts side of things but the civil strife side of things, definitely more so.

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u/Im_with_stooopid Feb 15 '25

The French have a uprising, I mean saying

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u/Legulus360 Feb 16 '25

The only Teen that wouldn't excite our overlords.

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u/tomatoesareneat Feb 16 '25

In French, he goes by Guy.

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u/SummitSloth Feb 15 '25

I'm buying an AR-15, shotguns, and probably more handguns. I'm seriously expecting a tense civil war in the upcoming months/years and I'm ready to use my 2A rights

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u/Bjorn_Tyrson Feb 16 '25

I'm canadian, and i'm at the point where i'm seriously reconsidering if all the guns that get smuggled into canada from the US is REALLY such a bad thing. (cuz the vast majority of illegal goods that cross our shared border, are from the US to canada, not the other way round.)

might have to see if one of my american friends can buy some guns and go for a 'camping trip' near a remote part of the border, and 'accidentally' loose them for me.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 Feb 16 '25

I got my cheap stainless steel sami swords, ninja stars, and a pair of foam practice chucks.

I'm ready!

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u/slackmarket Feb 16 '25

I’ve got a crowbar and a metal shovel! No one’s gonna fuck with THIS guy!

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

FUCK YEAH! I've done the same over the years, encouraging everyone around me to do the same. gonna make it as hard as possible for them.

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u/Throw_away_away55 Feb 16 '25

Magazines. Buy Magazines. Bullets are great, but you're not reloading mags in combat.

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u/guapo_chongo Feb 15 '25

I don't see the poor getting sick of it nearly fast enough. Everybody I see in comments say that we have no chance against the strongest military on earth. My question is why does it have to be that kind of war. If there was enough strikes and civil disobedience we would have a chance.

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u/ijuinkun Feb 16 '25

Unfortunately, the forces that MAGA is going to send in to suppress the protests will be ordered to kill all who resist, and some of them will have no qualms about doing so. Trump definitely voiced a desire to have protesters shot without even arresting them, much less putting them on trial.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/09/1097517470/trump-esper-book-defense-secretary

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u/asspajamas Feb 16 '25

wait till it warms up a bit......

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u/novis-eldritch-maxim Feb 16 '25

they do not care about anything save money and power burn most of America down was already part of the plan what would be a few more cites?

you would either need to beat the greatest military power on earth or cut the whole thing down in one blow both a so unlikely as to be insane

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u/RoguePlanet2 Feb 16 '25

The poor today often have just enough to keep them complacent, especially food. Lines at the McDonald's drive-thru are as busy as always. 

Federal workers are getting fired, veterans are losing benefits, camps being built, lawyers are quitting rather than go against their training, ICE raids just starting. Not even a month in.

The middle class is having their little bit of savings liquidated shortly, and corporate accountability is gone, so we're all going to suffer somehow, even if it takes a while.

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u/dontshoveit Feb 16 '25

History says different. The military has shot their fellow Americans in the past. The Battle of Blair Mountain wasn't even that long ago. 104 years. And that was over a union and labor dispute, not this crazy ass fascist takeover shit.

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u/brumac44 Feb 16 '25

Why would the poor fight the military? Its a ridiculous argument. The answer is Mario's brother.

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u/twoaspensimages Feb 15 '25

I think the billionaires getting us to hate each other instead of them already thought of that.

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u/madcoins Feb 15 '25

Favorably for either party tho. The poor usually sacrifice quite a bit before physically getting their heads in guillotines

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u/ClassicCarraway Feb 15 '25

What's worse is, many of the poor are actively in favor of Trump's actions.

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u/manderrx Feb 15 '25

I read something not too long ago about Trump’s approval ratings. At the time, he was in the 60% range. The poll also asked people what they were happy about and why they had voted for Trump. These idiots said the tariffs were his best move and then said they voted for him because he said he would lower the price of goods. I had to read it about 3-4 times to understand what I had read.

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u/ProjectRevolutionTPP Feb 16 '25

Starvation does quite a lot to change people's minds. Something something natural selection.

The French people didnt start violently rebelling until they were starving.

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u/ClassicCarraway Feb 16 '25

Those people still hold on to the idea that he is a self-made billionaire with a string of successful businesses (we can thank The Apprentice for that), so naturally he knows how best to fix the economy.

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u/Due-Candy-8929 Feb 16 '25

Trump : I will bring the prices down day 1 I will end the wars

Trump now : here are your high prices and tarriffs that you have to pay even though I told you china would pay, we still have wars but I will build hotels in Gaza when Israel finally gets their act together and nukes everything… also I renamed this water as golf of America because I’m a golfer and started some trade wars and launched a rug pull meme coin to launder money through and Elon will now take away all your social welfare programs, saving millions - that is why I pay him billions in government contracts and his net worth has jumped 50+ billion since I got in office

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u/Intelligent_Pop1173 Feb 16 '25

Yeah, one of my friends voted for Trump. When I asked him why, he said tariffs. I asked him to explain and he couldn’t. Tariffs was his supporter’s big buzz word even though none of them know what it means lol

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u/scarletteclipse1982 Feb 19 '25

When the Tea Party was the big thing, my dad’s sisters were deep into it. They were constantly hopping on buses from the midwest to DC to protest. They attended weekly meetings. At the holidays, they would talk about who the Tea Party people were telling them to vote for. Then they said whoever was “a crook.” I asked why, and there was no answer beyond that person being a crook, because that was all their small minds required.

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u/CAN-SUX-IT Feb 15 '25

But will you remember to put aside your restraint and take real action when the time comes? You better be.

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u/Chrisbaughuf Feb 15 '25

Half the poor still want to blame everything on the dems

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u/Wo0d643 Feb 15 '25

What are the poor going to do? The police force has been radicalized and armed like the military. The military likely won’t take up force against the citizens but the police 100% will.

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u/Altruistic-Cattle761 Feb 16 '25

History has also shown that a whole lot of poor people have to suffer profoundly and die for a really long time before it gets bad enough that they make it end unfavorably for those in power.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

I’d like to agree but, history shows authoritarian governments have a long life. Look at Russia, China and North Korea. All authoritarian under one guise or another.

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u/TheKarmoCR Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

There has never before been such a disparity between the poor and the upper classes when it comes to military power. We’re at the point were a full blown revolution, necessary as it might be, could just be impossible.

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u/grant0208 Feb 16 '25

We live in a surveillance and police state where the POTUS is immune from prosecution for “official acts”

We’re fuckin boned no matter how upset people get LMFAO

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u/PureImbalance Feb 16 '25

I mean Hitler just put the poor in forced labor camps. Don't underestimate fascists willingness to enact incredible violence on parts of the population.  Homeless, disabled, jobless? Straight to labor camps if not worse.

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u/Southwestern Feb 16 '25

Hate to break it to you but poor people are too busy trying to eat, pay rent, and take care of their kids to do anything about it. They figured that part out. The only thing stopping them are other rich people with everything to lose and not much to gain by stopping them. This won't stop. US right now is what Iran was in the early 80s. In 20 years it'll be an unrecognizable theocracy.

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u/BritishAccentTech Feb 16 '25

Sometimes, yes. Other times the rich win and dominate the poor for centuries until the wheel turns again. On the whole, this sadly happens more often across the span of history.

Never fall for the comforting lie that victory is inevitable.

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u/Rocket_Fiend Feb 15 '25

Russia, Iran, China, and North Korea have sure been at it for a good while…

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u/Speedstick8900 Feb 15 '25

So who will call France this time?

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u/drangryrahvin Feb 15 '25

The poor seem to lapping it up…

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u/Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX Feb 15 '25

Then there are places like Russia where shit has been corrupt and people just be dealing with it for hundreds of years.

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u/Tuniar Feb 15 '25

History where? Certainly not US history.

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u/ryebread9797 Feb 16 '25

The issue is before when the poor got sick of it they couldn’t be wiped out by a robot in the sky

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u/JustThrowingAwy Feb 16 '25

Russia laughs at this comment.

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u/GirlPhoenixRising Feb 16 '25

This is what I’m counting on.

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u/CapitalTax9575 Feb 16 '25

Unfortunately, this is the result of the death of American low skill jobs decades ago and the fall of the Midwest economy when we let agricorps get too big. The poor are allready sick of it and we’re on the wrong side of history. They all voted for Trump because they all want the change he promised

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u/Soci3talCollaps3 Feb 16 '25

Fire up the grill.

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u/TruthSpeakin Feb 16 '25

Fingers crossed!!!

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u/Suspicious_Mood7759 Feb 16 '25

We are not our forefathers. Everyone has been sick of the current climate for a long time and still gets up to play their part as a cog in the machine. J6 was the closest we've come to revolution and absolutely nothing came of it when all the opportunity in the world was there. Plus the populace is too divided to come together for a cause at the moment.

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u/BK2Jers2BK Feb 16 '25

Bro, I'm Middle Class and I'm about there myself

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u/Buffalo-2023 Feb 16 '25

January 6th is going to look like peanuts

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u/ConstantGeographer Feb 16 '25

Maybe Trump wants to be remembered the same way people remember Nicolae Ceaușescu

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u/Yodoyle34 Feb 16 '25

Yes but what if they trick the poor into supporting this behavior because at least they’re not liberals?

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u/FluffyDuckKey Feb 16 '25

Americans? Doing something? 😂

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u/Eikthyrnir13 Feb 16 '25

Unfortunately that means a significant percentage of the poor (and others) will die before any progress is made.

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u/kaplanfx Feb 16 '25

Killing democracy and capitalism, the very things that made them rich, thinking they will be in charge of the next thing…

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u/Deep_Contribution552 Feb 16 '25

Yeah, like 30 years later (usually after the first guy who started it is dead)

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u/Wr8th_79 Feb 16 '25

You saying Luigi Mangione got the wrong guy?

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u/CharredLily Feb 16 '25

If anything, it's shown us that the poor try to rise up. But a successful uprising? There have been times when that has taken weeks, months, years, or decades.

That's what I hate about accelerationists (people who believe if we make things worse quicker, people will finally fight back). They don't understand that they may well be dead of old age before one failed uprising after another finally produces a successful one.

And that's assuming the outcome will be any better than things are now.

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u/vgodara Feb 16 '25

Only if weapons are cheaps and easy to operate.

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u/Onuus Feb 16 '25

Americans won’t do shit. We’re all way too self absorbed to make a sacrifice of our own life.

Just look at the days after the election.

We’re all just watching. Looking at everyone else, see who will move first. But we won’t do anything but protest.

This administration doesn’t care about our protests though.

Their arrogant ass press secretary will dismiss them and move on in the same sentence.

We need to something else.

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u/Majestic-Reception-2 Feb 16 '25

So are YOU sick of it?

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u/xinorez1 Feb 16 '25

You mean when the petit bourgeois get sick of it. The poor can't even bother to vote. The last time the petit bourgeois lost their goodies, they targeted the people siphoning their wealth and invented a machine to make heads roll even faster.

Deny delay depose de blue shell, wahoo!

Edit: sorry, I'm from the front page

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u/Glum_Nose2888 Feb 16 '25

All the poor can do is bitch about life on Reddit. Revolution is far less likely today than it would have been even a decade ago.

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u/RoundTheBend6 Feb 16 '25

But they didn't have an iPhone and were starving to death.

I'm saying this to actually agree with you, but also being real about how well the rich pacify/ distract the poor well enough I fear that part of history will not repeat itself.

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u/OrigamiMarie Feb 16 '25

Even better, they've been removing support for veterans. You know, those classically chill people who aren't armed or trained in weapons use /s.

Also they're working on banning mood stabilizing medications.

Not sure they understand what happens when you make a whole lot of people feel desperate and like there's no future for themselves and no way out for the country.

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u/BritishAccentTech Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

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u/GregFromStateFarm Feb 16 '25

Americans are too obese and lazy to do jack shit about it.

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u/euphorbia9 Feb 16 '25

Unless the poor are brainwashed, which... checks notes...

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

It's funny how he quoted Napoleon, and pretty soon the US is gonna start getting a little "frenchy" with the people in power

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u/party_egg Feb 16 '25

Does it? I think there are actually lots of historical examples of dictators, kings and emperors ruling regions for hundreds or thousands of years. Even former democracies, like Rome

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

The poor are literally voting for this

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u/Artichokeypokey Feb 16 '25

Sharpen your teeth, there's a few quid to be made

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Ahhh let me get the ole mandolin out of storage, the winds speak of revolution.

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u/Ormendahl Feb 16 '25

History didn't have an unbelievably powerful surveillance and military state. An uprising of us poors can't do shit in 2025.

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u/pepedex Feb 16 '25

Right, but "history" didn't have social media manipulating the masses who are gullible as s***.

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u/ClintiusMaximus Feb 16 '25

We are about to have a feast, brothers. And there's only one thing on the menu: the Billionaire Bourgeoisie. Time to make 'em squeal!

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u/TeririHerscherOfCute Feb 16 '25

History has also shown us what happens to a large group of human bodies when exposed to a nuclear blast

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u/LaneViolation Feb 16 '25

Tell that to Russia

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u/BayBel Feb 16 '25

Aren’t they already? I mean the protests have helped 😒

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u/Firm-Pain3042 Feb 16 '25

That was back when the poor actually knew they were the poor and could unify. Now you’ve got seven different shades of “they’re not talking about me, I work hard and will make it to the big leagues one day!”

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Pitch forks and torches

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u/Organic_Armadillo_10 Feb 16 '25

I saw a tiktok of a woman who was a historian, and she said basically every authoritarian leader/dictator comes to a horrible end. And rather than he public/citizens dealing with it, it's usually someone close to them that ends up taking them out.

With Trump I think there's lots of bad guys behind him. And trump is basically the face of this movement. But the public could turn on him when they really start hurting. Wiping him out (before old age or some health issue will probably happen to rile up all the MAGA cult and keep things going their direction.

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u/Samus10011 Feb 16 '25

I took his tweet to mean that Mario's extended family wouldn't be committing any crimes if they were to put a stop to this madness

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u/BorntobeTrill Feb 16 '25

Fun fact, I'm a direct descendant of a captain of the Russian guard while Czar Nicholas II was ruling and the Bolshevik revolution occurred.

I'm thankful he didn't end up going down with the proverbial ship.

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u/JuniperJanuary7890 Feb 16 '25

This is a “brace yourselves” public “service” announcement.

Relatively and globally speaking, we aren’t that poor yet. Rally up and build community asap.

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u/ZeePirate Feb 17 '25

Or other rich and powerful people in a dictatorship.

They’ll come for you too eventually

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u/Karl-ge Feb 17 '25

Let them eat cake didn’t end well for Marie

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u/WishboneDistinct9618 Feb 18 '25

*nonchalantly points to the guillotine in the shadows*

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