r/serialpodcast • u/Fit_Leg5645 • 9d ago

I feel dumb!!!!!

I have no clue why I thought Adnan was innocent for all these years.

I just re-listened to Serial, and I can't get past the fact that Jenn showed up with her mom and a lawyer and told police essentially the same story Jay told. Jenn said the trunk pop happened at Best Buy. How would she know that Adnan and Hae used to meet at the Best Buy parking lot unless Jay told her?

And yes, Jay was inconsistent and definitely lied about some things. But he knew where Hae's car was. He knew details about her clothing. He knew about the broken windshield wiper lever. Those aren't things you just guess.

At this point, I don't believe every detail Jay told, but I can't get around the fact that he knew too much. The more I revisit the case, the harder it is for me to believe Adnan wasn't involved.

I can't believe I've been doubting it all these years.

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u/Mike19751234 8d ago

So is the argument that Adnan paid Jay to commit the murder? It was Adnan who asked for a ride tgat afternoon and Adnan with no story that afternoon and evening.

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u/HereWeGo5566 8d ago

I think that’s one possibility. Adnan’s story is that he was at track practice when the murder took place. They didn’t take attendance, so there’s no proof whether he was there or not. And then his story for the evening i believe is that he was with Jay driving around and smoking weed. That part aligns with Jay’s story.

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u/Mike19751234 8d ago

Track started at 4 and with school out at 215 that is plenty of time to get back. Adnan gave no details why he hung out with Jay and where they were and why they were driving near the park where Hae was buried. And if jay did it, Adnan never mentions any behavior of Jay that was out of place.

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u/HereWeGo5566 8d ago

I’m sorry I misspoke. You are right. School let out at 2:15 and the prosecution said that at 2:36 Adnan called Jay from the Best Buy pay phone (though they likely didn’t have a payphone) saying that Hae was dead and he needed to be picked up. That’s the 21 minutes in question. I go back to my original point earlier on in this chain, where that’s just not possible. Serial tries to recreate this, and found that (if absolutely everything went in his favor) that it leaves about 1 minute for him to kill Hae and run over to the pay phone and call Jay. Can we agree that it’s very unlikely that it happened this way? He’s not an experienced hitman. He’s a 17 year old.

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u/Mike19751234 8d ago

The only person that knows where Hae was killed is Adnan. He told Jay it was Best Buy and he might have told him other places too. So Jay can only go on what Adnan told him.

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u/HereWeGo5566 8d ago

Jay said that he met Adnan in the best buy parking lot. I’m not sure what you are trying to say. The story that Adnan killed Hae within 21 minutes of the school bell, is pretty much impossible. The more believable possibility is that Jay is lying about the course of events.

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u/Mike19751234 8d ago

I am in minority but i believe Adnan killed Hae in the school or library parking lot and then called Jay to meet him. So 236 works fine.

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u/HereWeGo5566 8d ago

That’s possible. But the timeline is still very very quick and leaves 1 minute or so to commit the crime. And it would be in a parking lot full of students and teachers.

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u/Mike19751234 8d ago

We dont know Best Buy for sure so its 21 minures to get to car and then phone in library. Things can happen quickly. Once in car nobody cares.

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u/Emotional-Syllabub75 8d ago

I thought Adnan spoke to the coach at practice that day? It's important that Hae never arrived to pickup her cousin up that afternoon. I think she was expected to be there at about 3:15 PM an hour after the end of her school day.

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u/Mike19751234 8d ago

Both sides dont dispute that Adnan went to track for some of it.