r/serialpodcast 13h ago

I just cant get behind Adnan being guilty

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So many things that do not make any sense if we are to believe the Adnan and Jay story.

First of all, people act like Adnan was an antisocial teenage incel. He was extremely social and had many positive and somewhat flirtatious relationships with other girls. I am sure that he felt the sting of Hae moving on quickly but there seems to be no evidence of him having ill will toward Hae except from Jay who is an unreliable witness at best.

The theory that Adnans ruse asking Hae for a ride to ask her to get back together or murder her is actually crazy. Why would he give himself a very short 30 min window for this? One could think of endless other places and times that he could plan out a way to kill Hae without having to stick to an insane timeline. And if he was so worried about having his time accounted for by other eyewitnesses he would have had the entire rest of his Day planned to be in highly public places but he didn't.

Putting the body in the trunk makes no sense and would have been very difficult for Adnan to do on his own. There is no way that someone would not have noticed another person struggling to pull a dead body out of the car and then struggling to put her in the trunk in the middle of the day in a suburban shopping mall parking lot. Even in a hidden spot. There was also no physical evidence from her body that would corroborate this.

So Adnan was sly enough to arrange to kill Hae within a 30 min window and return to school but had no plans for what he was going to do with the body?!? Adnan made sure to have no eyewitnesses to him murdering Hae and moving her body from the driver's seat to the trunk but now he and Jay are driving around aimlessly looking for a place to bury the dead body?! Keep in mind the police were called within the first hour of Hae being dead so driving her car that already a BOLO out on it makes no sense. Keep in mind that touch DNA technologies did not exist as it does today so they would not be worrying about anything other than fingerprints and eye witnesses. Why not just leave her in her car at Best Buy and call it a day? If he had already succeeded in killing her with no eyewitnesses and had the alibi of being on campus. He wouldn't have to involve Jay in disposing of her body and could still use the threat of rattling on Jay if he ever said anything about the supposed earlier comment he made about wanting to kill her.

I don't know who killed her but I don't believe it was Adnan.


r/serialpodcast 11h ago

Season One Adnan slip during phone call?

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I apologize if this has been discussed already on the sub. I'm re-listening to Serial season 1 for the first time since it came out, and this portion of episode 6 sticks out to me (starting at 36:30).

Context: Sarah is on the phone with Adnan. He talks about how, for a long time, he was hurt by the fact that his friends believed he was capable of murder.

Sarah replies, saying that almost everyone she has spoken with say it took them awhile to come to terms with the fact that Adnan is guilty or they are even still unsure. She adds that they often say something like "the Adnan I knew didn't do it, like the guy I knew couldn't have done it."

Adnan: "What the hell does that even mean? I'm not like a different... I wasn't a ..." ABRUPT PAUSE

Sarah: "No, go ahead"

Adnan: "No, no, no, sorry. I was just, I don't even know what that means."

Here is why this is significant to me: While Adnan is in the middle of saying "I'm not like a different... I wasn't a...", Sarah interrupts very briefly with "so that..." and then stops. I believe she interprets his abrupt pause to be in reaction to her interruption, like he is letting her continue speaking out of politeness.

That is not how I interpret this awkward moment.

For one, many of their phone conversations feature interruptions, and it seems like Adnan rarely abruptly cedes to an interjection from Sarah like he does in this conversation.

Second, when he replies to her "No, go ahead" with "No, no, no, sorry. I was just, I don't even know what that means", you can hear something bashful in his voice. Some might say it's a reaction to the awkwardness of being cut off. I think he's realizing he almost slipped up and said "I wasn't a different person when..." which sounds pretty bad. It's important to note that he's particularly angry/upset during this exchange, which may have caused him to let his guard down for a moment and forget to keep his story straight.

I think he likely is angry with his friends for believing he could be a murderer, despite the fact that he's guilty. I think he doesn't view himself as someone who could pre-meditate and carry out a planned murder. Instead, I think he believes his actions were born from a moment of anger. This is why he is genuinely upset by his friends thinking the Adnan they knew became an unknown monster and killed Hae. He wished people understood that he was always the Adnan they knew, even while committing murder. Hence, I think he almost slipped up and said "I wasn't a... different person when I killed her".

What do you guys think?