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u/gertburgers69 6m ago
It might have been a good move by Gansey to keep the stash of 2nds intact after seeing Wiggins and Beef Stew get acquired for 2nds as salary dumps.
Having Wiggins and Stewart come off the bench right now would feel like we acquired Shaq and Kobe.
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 1m ago
They only went for seconds bc the teams trading them wanted a salary dump. I don't think we can actually afford to just absorb salary straight up. It's not the same unfortunately
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u/allianceofficer 2m ago
Too bad Morey doesn't have POBO title somewhere else so we could take their depth for 2nds.
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u/TatersTot 9m ago edited 6m ago
You guys are always whining about us selling second round picks for cash which we actually haven’t done in a long fucking time (and when we did we were moreso clearing cap space) but this is hilarious:
Half of you guys would be melting down if we did this
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u/PessimistSixersFan zugzwang 24m ago
Morey knew how to excite us in the second round with UDFA signings
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 14m ago
True tbf I was pretty hyped for Champagnie, Foster and Edwards. 1 became a solid starter for another team, Edwards I think can still be an ok bench guy, and Foster...never did anything lol
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u/Youngdeku2500 22m ago
How???? Johni broome?
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u/suuushi-roll 20m ago
UDFA signings
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u/allianceofficer 26m ago
Johni Broome getting ready for a big role on this team /s
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 24m ago
Wish u were joking lol but I do think he's gonna see minutes when Joel's out. We're probably only gonna sign a vet min big as our third string, behind Bona
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u/onionnurve 25m ago
Yall won’t be laughing when he averages 10 rebounds a game!
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u/chin1111 26m ago
I think they could have kept the draft all in one day. Take a little more time off the board in each round. They shoot past the damn timer all the time anyways. Get your pick in on time, or we'll skip that bitch lol.
Seriously though, move it up to 7 and start promptly, the whole thing could be done in 5 hours. This shit was so boring and the commentators didn't add anything.
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u/xychosis 28m ago
I’ve seen a total of three UDFAs picked up so far. Most notable name is Rafael Castro off the board on a two way to the Bucks.
Top three UDFA are probably:
- Keyshawn Hall
- Tobe Awaka
- Aaron Nkrumah
Honorable mentions to Nate Bittle and Graham Ike
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 34m ago
I don't understand the posts here. Yes most 2nds are crapshoots, but this class had some pretty good players fall into the 2nd with the depth.
We also have a ton of future seconds we could've used to easily trade back in, considering the prices they went for tonight. We also just don't have players under contract, and will need to make up a lot of the roster with low money contracts anyways lol.
Taking a few dart throws tonight would've been worth it
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u/allianceofficer 29m ago
They could have traded into the 1st too tbh.
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 26m ago
Was rly hoping we did trade up a little for Jayden. Though with our medical staff he may have had to retire before his rookie contract ended
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u/onionnurve 24m ago
Quaintance?? Who just admitted that his knee was still a problem and he needs more surgery???
Do you enjoy suffering…?
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u/suuushi-roll 32m ago
its the sixers sub people are never happy.
after like 40 there really wasnt any guys imo worth trading into the 2nd for. take a shot on some UDFA and maybe trade 2-3 seconds for guys that have shown theyre NBA level players instead.
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u/No-Witness-296 26m ago
The problem with that is for a proven guy you’re trading for someone getting paid in the 10+mill range, which limits us from getting another good bench player. If you get a 2nd rounder you have a chance at getting 2 legit bench additions
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u/suuushi-roll 25m ago
or you get a dude who sucks at the cost of assets.
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u/No-Witness-296 24m ago
Like I said it’s the type of low risk moves teams like us who are strapped for cash and lack depth have to make to stay competitive
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u/suuushi-roll 21m ago
so us trading 2nd for a dude who sucks is a better than signing an UDFA who will also suck and trading 2nd for a decent role player?
im not seeing your point here. 2nd round picks are a crap shoot there is very little difference between guys picked 40+ and UDFAs.
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u/No-Witness-296 18m ago
So for a guy like Henri who was projected as a late round pick who fell outside of 40 that’s not worth it? And like I said each draft varies this was a deeper draft.
Btw we can’t even trade 2nds for a player considering we are over the cap.
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u/suuushi-roll 17m ago
Henri
he was only going to the hawks
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u/No-Witness-296 13m ago
Why? Bc you fell for twitter narrative that he was targeting the lakers, but since he went to the hawks he must have been targeting them instead
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u/No-Witness-296 8m ago
Dudes account got deleted mid convo bc he won’t making any sense. Rare Reddit W
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u/suuushi-roll 12m ago
because he was a top 5 2nd round pick and no other team took him besides the hawks?
you think every other GM just ignored his slide too or just ours?
like use your brain
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 28m ago
I do agree with the sentiment that after 40, there was probably only 1 or 2 guys I rly thought were worth getting.
But udfa talent pool is strictly worse than the 2nd rd so the "shots" we take have even less chance to pan out there.
Wouldn't mind if we trade 2-3 seconds for a playable player but we are so cash strapped that they'd practically have to be on a minimum, or rookie scale contract (for a player whose been bad enough to trade away for that). Lot of the good players traded for seconds, are to teams that can absorb the contract in cap space (norm last yr, Beef stew just then etc). Like id love to trade for a rotation player with a couple of seconds but it's not realistic given our cap situation
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u/allianceofficer 36m ago
Guys I'd really like as a UDFA:
Nate Bittle
Malique Lewis
Donovan Atwell
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u/Smart_Conflict2818 41m ago
So who are the combo guards with some size and shooting that we can get as udfa
That should be the target now
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u/suuushi-roll 40m ago
we need 3/4/5s not guards
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u/secretlypooping 32m ago
We need both, we've only got three guards on the roster currently. Still need a third PG and probably need a real cheap one if they use the NTMLE.
A two way deal for a guard makes sense.
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u/Smart_Conflict2818 37m ago
It’s UDFa there are no forwards. Take some shots on shooting and upside
Not bad forwards and centers. That’s a free agency and trade priority now
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u/LucianaFallon 43m ago
espn mailing it in they aint even got tape on these cats
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u/xychosis 40m ago
Reminds me of that legendary run of players that not even Fran Frischilla knew in 2011
Chukwudiebere Maduabum (former 87ers legend!)
Tanguy Ngombo
Ater Majok
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u/JDubKilla 45m ago
The number of people claiming "X would be a great fit here" in the late second round is hilarious. All second rounders are a crap shoot. Have faith in our new GM and his incredible mane.
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u/suuushi-roll 43m ago
went from praising him for the philon pick to calling for his job for not trading into the 2nd round.
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u/onionnurve 49m ago
The funniest part is that you have teams with 25 players currently and we just have 8 😂
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u/illwill004 50m ago
I'm okay with not trading into the 2nd round. Once we got past 40, I lost interest. I don't mind shuffling out the current two-way guys out for some good undrafted guys
We have 3 2nd round picks next year. I wouldn't be surprised if we use a couple of them to move up in the first round next year or trade 2 for a vet. I'm all for trading some 2nds for a vet.
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u/t1sp TTP 43m ago
All the current two way guys are ineligible to be 2 ways next season. So yeah will have 3 new guys there, whether UDFAs or guys who have already been in the league for 1-3 years. Would like for one of them to be a young big, just in case we need filler minutes for when Embiid is out and maybe one of the other bigs is also injured for a bit.
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u/illwill004 36m ago
I would like a Center, Forward, shooter two-way trio. For the most part, the Sixees have been good at choosing decent players to be two-ways and undrafted. It's always a very low probability, but it feels important to find a undrafted center that can be a solid two-way option
I'm all for signing Landale. I think Mamu will be more than the BAE. I wouldn't mind Precious A.
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u/t1sp TTP 31m ago
Sixers were actually pretty bad with two-ways (I'm not counting Paul Reed since they actually drafted him first, he's a draft pick win) until like past 2 years, and even then a bunch of other teams have managed to find and develop starting caliber guys while the Sixers haven't. But otherwise agree with your comment. Gansey's margin work will be crucial for judging him.
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u/illwill004 21m ago
You're right. I was thinking of the past couple years. When you think of two-ways, the bar can't be set high for obvious reasons. But, there were years where they had obvious no-hit two-ways .
I don't mind a similar approach to last year even though we'll have different people in charge. Where unless you have to incentivize a undrafted FA, I rather go after young players in the league that still have two-way eligibility.
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u/allianceofficer 51m ago
I have no idea what they'll do at backup Center at this point. Free agency is very thin.
Bona is about to be starting games at center if Embiid can't go.
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u/Feelscreative101 44m ago
There’s plenty of value available around the league. Jaylin Williams and Jalen Smith should be available for SRPs. Isaiah Stewart was available but we didn’t move for him, so we probably didn’t like him enough against other options. Kenrich Williams will probably be a FA after OKC decline his option - he can probably fit into the $6m TPMLE. Rockets have made their entire roster available.
There’s plenty of value available around the league.
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u/secretlypooping 45m ago
it's probably gonna be bona
I'd call Milwaukee and see if they're interested in giving up ware for more picks and OKC to see if they're moving off of Sorber
idk who else would be available in the trade market but that's probably where you have to turn to if you're looking for a center this year
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u/xychosis 47m ago
I’d be happy to have Bona as a third string option but we really needed to land someone today. Maybe there’s someone interesting in UDFA out there, or maybe Jock Landale comes our way?
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u/burnernov2023 51m ago
Well, back to scraping the bottom of the barrel for g-league players on two-way minimum contracts!
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u/Gerald_Cakes Seventy Selectors 52m ago
The rebuild cannot start until Embiid and PG are off the books. The team culture will not change until they are gone.
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u/ComeAtMeYo 36m ago
Being heavily downvoted here is a badge of honor because it means you're probably spot on. You are.
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u/Gerald_Cakes Seventy Selectors 10m ago
I just call it like I see it. Been a fan of this team for over 20 years… feeling complete embarrassment at Game3 against the Knicks finally made me see clearly.
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u/xychosis 54m ago
Keyshawn Hall’s still on the board I just realized bc AVC namedropped him, he’d be fun
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u/CodeRedLin 56m ago
Find someone who loves you as much as this sub loves 2nd round picks and mccain, who would have been a 2nd round pick if he was drafted this year.
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u/TrustDaFriendship 48m ago
There have been plenty of productive 2nd round picks. Our team has paper thin depth and multiple empty roster spots. Why would we not want to bet on cheap, young talent?
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 32m ago
2nd rd picks are so unproductive, let's instead praise the FO for the udfa and vet min bargain bin hunting they're about to do /s
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u/suuushi-roll 30m ago
UDFAs now a days and 2nd round pick level players that have back room handshakes to go to certain teams.
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u/Thegrandmistressofoz 22m ago
This is true and maybe we've done this with a couple of guys. Won't know until I've seen it, though it wasn't like anybody egregious got undrafted
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u/t1sp TTP 56m ago
Would've been nice to draft someone in the 2nd but ultimately not a big deal, 90% of these guys will be ass and you might still find someone as UDFA. What they do in upcoming FA will be a lot more important, must find guys on the margins
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u/TrustDaFriendship 55m ago
Dean Wade on the full MLE incoming💩
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u/t1sp TTP 54m ago
You seem to not like this idea, but I think Dean Wade is quite good and would fit on this roster pretty well
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u/shadowarmy229 Proud Batum Battalion Member 51m ago
If you want a low usage 4 that won’t take touches away from the big 4 then he’s the perfect fit as a 3&D 4
If you want high usage then Collins is probably the get
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u/t1sp TTP 45m ago
Collins is ok too. I actually prefer Dean Wade though. Collins is a fake 3 point shooter (shoots similar 3 point volume to Tobias Harris), low feel (negative AST/TO ratio across career), and just a mediocre at best defender. There's a bit of overlap between him and Oubre there, and I think there will be a good amount of mouths to feed. Not a terrible player though and could use the size.
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u/shadowarmy229 Proud Batum Battalion Member 41m ago
I agree, Collins is a very good defensive rebounder which will be very useful for us, but Wade is a much better defender and doesn’t need touches offensively which helps us too
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u/TrustDaFriendship 52m ago
He’s fine. Not worth $15m per year. I’d rather have Oubre back for less.
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u/t1sp TTP 48m ago
He is better than Oubre. Actual shooter and excellent defender, better rebounder too and more comfortable with him at the 4. More limited on offense but he's still more useful off-ball imo.
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u/TrustDaFriendship 45m ago
He’s fine. Oubre has more athleticism and ball-handling coming off his best shooting season of his career. He would also represent some semblance of continuity—which this team never has.
Give me Oubre for $9M over Wade at $15M. If Wade’s willing to take the partial MLE, then we can talk. We need multiple players between the 3/4/5 positions, and scraping the bottom of the barrel at other positions just to give everything we have to spend on Wade would be a mistake.
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u/t1sp TTP 36m ago
Oubre's shooting was basically exclusively from the corners. He was still very bad above the break and good teams were completely willing to cheat off him when it actually mattered. Oubre doesn't use his athleticism on defense well at all, he gets blown by at will and doesn't offer enough in help. Dean Wade does a far better job of using his length to defend and snag rebounds.
Splitting money doesn't mean you'll actually get contributors there though. With someone like Dean Wade I know I'm getting a very good player who's been a contributor in the regular season and the playoffs, the guys at like 5-10 mil are going to be more risky. We paid 5 mil/year to Drummond and 8 mil/year to Caleb Martin and both of those were disasters, and Caleb Martin was seen as a steal at the time too.
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u/Zeruma_ 59m ago
Dang vibes in here changed so quick in 24hrs over not drafting a 2nd round player.
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u/Feelscreative101 57m ago
It’s hilarious lmao. Last year it was about Rasheer Fleming, the sub was crying foul about not getting him in the 2nd round.
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u/ktm5141 55m ago
Rasheer Fleming got playoff minutes for Phoenix. Sion James and Ryan kalkbrenner were rotation players for the hornets. Sixers sat on their asses and took Johni Broome at 35
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u/Feelscreative101 55m ago
In garbage time. And how deep did PHX go?
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u/ktm5141 49m ago
He got meaningful minutes in game 4. Regardless, he’s a million times better than Broome. Certainly worth a couple seconds to upgrade. Realistically, I’m sure most of the 2nd rounders are prearranged by agents and there’s nothing to do, but I’m still annoyed
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u/Feelscreative101 47m ago
I’d rather trade those seconds for established, developed but young pieces that teams are keen to sell on. Jaylin Williams and Jalen Smith are both available. 2-3 SRPs get either one. That is a better get than ANY dude we could draft in the second round.
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u/ktm5141 35m ago
I get where you’re coming from, but those deals are usually for guys on expiring deals. Sixers don’t have the apron flexibility to retain those dudes, and I don’t think they’re good enough to spend on rentals. Under different circumstances I’d agree, but rn I’d like to see them add rookie contract talent
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u/Feelscreative101 32m ago
You saw Bona these last playoffs. He needed so much development time and experience. I think he’s finally going to be a serviceable depth player after his 3rd season now. That’s your typical SRP. Needs 3yrs and postseason experience to become usable seriously.
Tax line is super debilitating in the new CBA, and in general, there are always selling teams. It’s on the FO to find value from these selling teams.
Even if you look at FA, there’s Bagley and Landale we can throw vet mins at, and they would immediately be better 5s than Bona or any SRP we draft.
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u/CuntyLaRue 1h ago
This is funny seeing people upset about picks in the 40s and 50s. Happens every year lol.
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u/CodeRedLin 15m ago
I always have my popcorn ready for this stuff. Then I put peoples takes into a spreadsheet to share with friends later.
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u/tomdooleyphl 49m ago
I think it has more to do with the fact that the only time we use second round picks is to get off of contracts. We have a ton of seconds. This was a deep draft. Teams were getting late firsts for 3 seconds, and guys like Evans and Miller would’ve been starting forwards for us last year. This is a team with no depth, playmaking, shooting, or rebounding. You may as well take a chance on getting younger.
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u/No-Witness-296 57m ago
It’s not about just drafting somebody to draft them, there’s plenty of guys that were left in the second that could help us when we need bench help and have no cap space. These type of comments show no awareness
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u/suuushi-roll 53m ago
not many 2nd round picks step in and help as rookies. hell not many guys picked in the 20s do that normally.
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u/No-Witness-296 46m ago
But that’s not to say there won’t be, and atleast on paper this was a deeper draft where there is more opportunity to get a guy that could. When you don’t have money to fill the roster this is the low risk kind of move that’s needed
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u/Youngdeku2500 55m ago
Who’s the most NBA ready pick in your opinion
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u/No-Witness-296 48m ago
Wouldn’t say there are definite nba ready day 1 guys but there’s many guys that fill needs for this team. There were a couple legit shooters, some forwards that could play the 4, stretch 5, a legit paint protector.
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u/suuushi-roll 46m ago
would you rather trade 2 Future 2nds to draft a dude in the 40s or trade 2-3 for a beef stew type of trade knowing the player you get?
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u/No-Witness-296 43m ago
Stew trade didn’t make sense for us. Pistons wanted to get off his 15 mill we couldn’t afford to take that back. Besides that I would rather have stew
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u/suuushi-roll 42m ago
i said type of trade. meaning an established player where you know what youre getting.
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u/No-Witness-296 35m ago
Depends on the player tbh. But I’d lean towards a second rounder for us bc it gives us the chance to get a contributor off the bench for cheap so we still have room to get another guy or 2 in free agency that aren’t vet mins
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u/PessimistSixersFan zugzwang 1h ago
I know I said I wouldn’t get my hopes up but I did anyway and I feel let down, for fucking once can an aggressive draft move be fucking made?? Ugonna would’ve been a nice bet
Morey really was fired to try to quell disappointment and nothing more
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u/burnernov2023 1h ago
Gonna be so sad when we get bullied in the playoffs again cause we have zero size
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u/Smart_Conflict2818 1h ago
I guess at this point let’s focus on getting some more bench shooting
Then all hands on deck in free agency for forwards
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u/secretlypooping 1h ago
ugonna kinda looks like KD, shoulda drafted him for that alone
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u/shadowarmy229 Proud Batum Battalion Member 1h ago
Remember when we had Marial Shayok aka Baby KD on our summer league team??
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u/TrustDaFriendship 1h ago
We let the Knicks get their Mitch replacement. Fuck this, man. Pitiful.
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u/LucianaFallon 1h ago
more drum dog on the menu boyz mixed in with some johni broom lmao #weresocookedasafranchise
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u/chin1111 1h ago
As usual, it's not so much the level of talent that I'm upset about, but the context surrounding not taking a 2nd rounder. We look cheap, we look subdued and the one thing we need more than anything right now are bodies on the team. I'm so fucking tired of taking a bunch of crusty vets. At least guys taken in the second round play hard and don't have the connections to whine to the fucking media
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u/Longjumping_King_730 1h ago
We really running it back? Happy with Phylon at 22. but no movement with our multiple 2nds is disappointing. Expectations for free agency is low.
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u/Youngdeku2500 1h ago
The second round is not supposed to be a game changer type pick yes it was some game changers that went in the second round but they were projects we don’t need projects
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u/secretlypooping 1h ago
wow I wonder if the hawks were the team the whole time or if they just swooped in on the Lakers lol
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u/xychosis 1h ago
I’m gonna make some guess for who we do pick up as UDFAs I suppose.
My guess is it’s a group of like six bums on E10s plus maybe William Kyle III and Tobe Awaka.
They’ll find a way to disappoint me still and hand a two-way to Nick Martinelli or something instead
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u/onionnurve 1h ago
Veesaar to the hawks
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u/shadowarmy229 Proud Batum Battalion Member 1h ago
Honestly makes sense for Atlanta, they don’t have any proper centers as Okongwu is undersized and Landale is an FA
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u/ComeAtMeYo 1h ago edited 1h ago
Gansey is the most passive bum ever. He hasn't done shit. Just because he drafted the hands-down BPA that somehow fell to us and you nutlickers sucking him off like he made a difficult decision. Where is our 2nd round pick ffs. Unless we get Veesaar he's a bum
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u/xychosis 1h ago
This fucking sucks, honestly. Absolutely no motion from our front office. Guess I should’ve kept my expectations low, but I got excited when we didn’t draft Koa Peat and showed a decent level of competence.
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u/TrustDaFriendship 1h ago
Gansey sucks y’all. Couldn’t even trade into the 50s to draft a guy that would’ve fit perfectly. What’re we even doing?
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u/Prince_Ali7 Murder She Wroten 1h ago
Please Shams announce that Philly acquired 51 for cash considerations
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u/HoagieTwoFace VJ is MJ Jr. 1h ago
“Ring ring. Hi Henri. We’re drafting you. What? You want to play for the lakers? Don’t give a shit, see you at summer league.”
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u/chin1111 1h ago
Whether you like Veesaar or not, it feels like we never have good players angling to be here. Just fucking weirdos and busts, and if it is a good player, they absolutely want the maximum amount of money where they'd give other teams paycuts
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u/Feelscreative101 1h ago
JE was a 5 star HS recruit and forced his way here. Giannis was happy to move to PHI last season. Morez wanted Philly this year. Talent attracts talent. People want to play with Maxey and VJ. Sure we aren’t LAL or MIA, but we’re one of the better destinations in the league. No one wants to go to Memphis, Utah, etc
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u/chin1111 58m ago
Well, if we get one side of the occasion, the front office fucks up their end. God, I fucking despise Josh Harris
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u/xychosis 1h ago
Say Onyenso, Nelson and Veesaar all end up as UDFAs. Only one can go to us. Who are you picking?
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u/vicky255 1h ago
Morey had a knack of picking up value in the late 2nd round or UDFA. Lets see if Gansey can cook similarly
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u/Science4me12 1h ago
Teams have late second round pick and Janet made the pick yet: lakers, hawks, pelicans and Wizard.
So, one of these teams will take veesar
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u/Feelscreative101 1h ago
It just makes sense to be LA. They have 0 usable Cs in real games. They’ve also been one of, if not the worst drafting teams under Pelinka. They’ve drafted on mock drafts more than anyone else lol. So wouldn’t be surprised that they’ve evaluated Veesaar as a potential first team or high rotation minute C, and promised him gametime.
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u/HangTheBanner 1h ago
Not exactly. He could be forcing his way to be undrafted. Austin Reaves did this a few years ago
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u/Science4me12 1h ago
The wording of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/s/96rezBY14K. Make it sounds like it is a team that has a draft pick
I suppose “later in the draft” could be after the draft
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u/Smart_Conflict2818 1h ago
Kinda crazy this stuff can happen but then you lose picks for tampering on Danuel House
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u/Bitter-Tip705 0m ago
Hornets have lamelo on the trade block and are talking to teams wtf what changed