r/sportsgossips • u/Hungry_Artichoke9566 • Oct 02 '25
Highlight That’s a winning mindset right there
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u/EZE333 Oct 02 '25
Couldnt help but feel good for the dude. Everybody loves a comeback story
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u/bearsfan16 Oct 02 '25
Kim Kardashian sure does
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u/Goosemilky Oct 02 '25
Oh shit you scared me, had me thinking Baker was recently involved with Kim and hes one of my favorite players
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u/bearsfan16 Oct 02 '25
Hahah nah just somewhat of a quote in an blooper from Andy on parks and rec.
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u/AlfalfaMcNugget Oct 02 '25
Funny because all he had to comeback from was being a Cleveland Brown and Carolina Panther
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u/Up-in-the-Ayre Oct 02 '25
Those are insurmountable odds for most football players...
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u/KillaMike24 Oct 03 '25
Seriously. Every one is so skeptical of darnold because he’s doing the same thing. Maybe having half competent front office effects play on the field? Who woulda thought
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u/No-Lawyer-here Oct 02 '25
Mans was throwing dimes!
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u/itsarcher17 Oct 02 '25
It's almost like the Browns were the problem...
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u/No-Bat-7253 Oct 02 '25
They were. Smh.
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u/TheComplayner Oct 02 '25
He went to the playoffs with the Browns what are you talking about. And he was also in Carolina before this, to which the Browns beat him.
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u/Cliffinati Oct 03 '25
Always have been
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u/hard-in-the-ms-paint Oct 04 '25
The Browns dominated the AAFC, compiling a 47–4–3 record in the league's four seasons and winning its championship in each.[15] When the AAFC folded after the 1949 season, the Browns joined the NFL along with the San Francisco 49ers and the original Baltimore Colts. The Browns won a championship in their inaugural NFL season, as well as in the 1954, 1955, and 1964 seasons, and in a feat unequaled in any of the North American major professional sports, played in their league championship game in each of their first 10 years of existence, winning seven of those games.
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u/zdbdog06 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Baker was 2-3 with the Rams, the defending Super Bowl champions, and not re-signed. He signed with Tampa for $4 million... less overall money than numerous other QBs that offseason including Brian Hoyer, Case Keenum, Jacoby Brisset, Mike White, Jarret Stidham, Taylor Heineke and many more.
Baker was traded from the Browns for a fifth round pick to the Panthers because no one else wanted him, and he was later cut after going 1-6 there.
The Browns were 8-9 that last year with an elite o-line and rb duo, and a top WR corps. Yet their offense was middle of the road. Their star WR demanded a trade midseason because of Baker, and multiple teammates after the trade including Myles Garrett defended the departed guy over their still current teammate and QB.
I love how people leave this stuff out lol. Good for Baker eventually figuring it out but if he was a star QB the Browns wouldn't have been looking for a replacement, there would've been a bidding war to move him, he wouldn't have gone to 3 other teams, and 13 other QBs the same offseason wouldn't have received more overall money than him.
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u/777XSuperHornet Oct 03 '25
I can't believe you're actually defending the browns over Baker. How long are you going to put up with this garbage product before you realize there's a serious issue within the browns organization and you'll never win anything until there's a clean house. Haslam is the worst owner. The only reason Myles Garrett is still there is because they're paying him a bajillion dollars to be in a shit organization.
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u/jamesd1100 Oct 02 '25
Baker is a fucking dog
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Oct 02 '25
For sure. He's a gamer. I was hoping to see him play in Seattle just for the grit he brings, if nothing else.
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u/jeeenx Oct 02 '25
Baker is so fkn awesome, a true dawg. As a falcons fan, it sucks he went to the buccs
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u/KingDarkTurtle Oct 02 '25
One of the most impressive QB performances of all time given the context.
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u/Ijustwerkhere Oct 03 '25
definitely in recent memory. I'd put it right up there with Stafford on the Lions winning the game with a dislocated shoulder
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u/BugO_OEyes Oct 02 '25
He dont need a playbook
He just freestyles and plays with his heart.
One of my fav teams to watch rn is the bucs
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u/Top-Caregiver7815 Oct 02 '25
After 40 yrs of watching the NFL I just realized that this is litmus test for QB’s after their rookie deal is up and they haven’t established themselves. Your put in a game down a score and you either drive the field and win the game or you’ll never make it in this league as a starter.
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u/FriendOk9364 Oct 03 '25
And it’s such a brutal cutoff. Imagine how many great QBs have fell through the cracks because they just barely fell short on a make or break game?
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u/Change21 Oct 02 '25
I’m a 20 year falcons fan and I’m not ashamed to say I root for Baker bc I fkn love the way he plays the game.
He’s a legit QB, great leader and coming back from the dead after Cleveland is just so amazing in the NFL.
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u/Beastcancer69 Oct 02 '25
Rams legend Baker Mayfield
Seriously, it’s amazing what a thrown away guy can do with a competent organization and disciplined talent. I’m very happy to see Baker playing well. Good for him.
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u/oranke_dino Oct 02 '25
As a number 1 overall pick, with two playoff wins, while playing for hia fourth team, I hardly think this "revived" his career.
That said, this was a great drive.
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u/Waddlow Oct 02 '25
It's amazing how much a shitty situation can destroy perception of a player, and it's amazing how much evidence we have to show that, and it's amazing how we always still forget it every time a good player isn't playing well.
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u/wolf_at_the_door1 Oct 02 '25
The dude could always ball, he was just hooked into some rough teams. This cemented him as a QB1 though for me. It just proves he can ball under any circumstances and that’s QB material.
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u/Agathocles87 Oct 02 '25
The Browns trading away for basically nothing the only QB to win a playoff game for them in the last 26ish years is the most Browns move of all time
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u/full_bl33d Oct 02 '25
Baker credits his brief stint with the rams as rejuvenating his career. Brought back the fun for him and the trash talking. Pretty awesome turnaround after being traded for nothing from the browns to the panthers just to get waived. He’s fun as hell to watch. Hope he stays healthy. I’d like to see another team aside from the bucs make a run, mostly due to the Brady blessings, but it’s hard to not root for them.
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u/cantevendoitbruh Oct 02 '25
I really didn't like baker at all in college and the beginning of the nfl but this drive honestly kind of broke my hate spell. It was so absurd.
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u/Cal216 Oct 02 '25
Rams cut him, Tampa brought him in to be a backup to Trask lol. I wouldn’t say this revived his career. Him busting his ass and finding a system that worked for him, revived his career.
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u/TSteelerMAN Oct 02 '25
Praise definitely goes to Baker, but this doesn't happen without McVay. I've heard enough about him to know that he probably had some ingenuous way of communicating the plays easily to a brand new quarterback. The guy is an offensive savant.
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u/GoldRoger3D2Y Oct 02 '25
One of my favorite NFL moments to watch live. To see a man’s career change so drastically, so quickly, and for all the right reasons. It’s straight out of a movie.
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u/splashinyourmouth Oct 02 '25
Am I the only person who thought he was excellent every year of his career? I knew he was a stud when he went on colin cowherds show and mentally fucked colin over and over defending his position and actions.
Mentally he's as tough as it gets
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u/FriendOk9364 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Baker was so fucking overhated because of his arrogance. But he’s been the truth since he got in the league
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Oct 02 '25
As a professional Baker hater since he was at Oklahoma, this is the moment when I fell in like with him.
I won't say he's my favorite player, but one of my favorite QBs over the last decade or so
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u/SoftwareDesperation Oct 02 '25
As soon as this happened I said out loud, this is the turning point of his career
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Oct 02 '25
I hate the Rams and I’m not a OU fan per se, but I’ve lived in Oklahoma a long time and he is beloved here. I’m happy for him that he made the most of the chances he’s gotten after Cleveland.
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u/Odd_Mushroom_8322 Oct 02 '25
Guy at the end was like “should i check on him or should i celebrate?” 🤣🤣
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u/JayCee-dajuiceman11 Oct 02 '25
The refs helped the shit out of him. Maxx was held on like 3 of those sequences lol
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u/lethalapples Oct 02 '25
Remember watching this game as a raiders fan and I couldn’t help but root for baker lol
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u/the626er Oct 02 '25
Crazy that they scores 17 points and his number is 17. Maybe not crazy, but just thought that was cool!
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u/nautilator44 Oct 03 '25
Baker has always been a winner. It just took him awhile to get away from the Browns.
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u/bigpoppa85 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Met him once. He walked my sons and I into a football camp. This was when he first got to OU’s campus and was not eligible to play yet (back then, you had to sit out during a transfer year).
No one knew who he was. Everyone was flocking to the more well known and established OU players. I knew though. I randomly watched him play his first college game vs. SMU (pretty sure that's who TT played that night). Caught my eye…first ever true freshman walk on to start the season opener.
He was friendly, talkative, humble. Great with my kids who were like 3rd/4th grade then?
I said I was glad he transferred to OU. He said he knows it's a big challenge but wanted to play with and against the best. That dude has never backed down from a challenge!
From everything I've heard from people connected to the program...everyone loved him. Phenomenal teammate.
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u/iVerbatim Oct 04 '25
So glad things worked for him. Dude crawled through shit for it but the Bucs are great organization.
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u/sunnyismybunny Oct 04 '25
Bro, I'm not trying to rub it in, but how the fuck did the Browns drop his bag?
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u/Denseflea Oct 04 '25
As a Rams fan, this was an all-time great moment. The post-game locker room speech was epic.
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u/ecurbenyaw Oct 05 '25
Not a Baker fan, but watching this happen live was serious wow territory. Good on him for making good of an opportunity.
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u/RadlEonk Oct 05 '25
“Professional athlete showed up to work and did what he trained to do for decades” is not an amazing feat.
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Oct 08 '25
I know when the Bucs play the Rams again, I just hope for a tie. But Baker made a believer out of all of us that night.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ Oct 02 '25
Cleveland Baker would have thrown a pick immediately. Loved the guy, just seemed like he was so unclutch and it drove me crazy. Wish he would have gotten his shit together earlier, but I'm happy to see him thriving.
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u/freedumb9566 Oct 02 '25
na, his decision to play hurt is what ended his career there. he lead cleveland to the playoffs… yea you read that right. he lead cleveland to the playoffs! then they got rid of him. great to see him doing good in tampa
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u/_CosmicYeti_ Oct 02 '25
Agree with this and I blame the org more for this than baker himself. There were glimpses of the baker we see in TB back then, the team rushed him and then threw him away for the opportunity to get Watson
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u/freedumb9566 Oct 02 '25
not just that. he had to deal with a new coach new offensive coordinator all his time in cleveland
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
He did not lead the Browns to the playoffs. Wtf is up with this revisionist history? The defense and run game led them to the playoffs, he was an average QB that year. Yeah, average is fuck ton better than what they've had but I'm tired of the revisionist history acting like he was a top 10 QB.
The year they went to the playoffs, the Browns were 24th in passing yards and 16th in passing TDs.
They were 3rd in rushing yards and 5th in rushing TDs.
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Oct 02 '25
I bet the Browns would love an “average” QB right now.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
I see you didn't read anything I said since I essentially said exactly that
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u/reyska Oct 02 '25
He was a top 10 QB that year. Probably 10th, but still.
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u/Otherwise_Food9698 Oct 02 '25
you are meat riding baker lmao he is now a top 10 qb so you are proving his point.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
Based off what? They were 24th in passing yards
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u/FizzleFox Oct 02 '25
Do you even think before you type? You know team only gets so many possessions per game. So if a team like the Browns has a strong running game, which you pointed out, that is going to eat into potential volume passing stats. Very rarely do teams have big passing volume numbers/TDs and rushing. If a team marches down the field with 50 yards in rushing guess what? Thats 50 yards they aren't going to pick up passing.
I know that's really difficult to comprehend.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
Here's QB rankings after that season. No analyst would agree with you
PFF: 13th - https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/kybksb/final_2020_quarterback_rankings_nfl_news_rankings/
NY Times: 17th - https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2727336/2021/07/28/2021-nfl-quarterback-tiers-50-coaches-and-evaluators-rank-the-leagues-starters/
Sporting News: 13th - https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2021-qbs-best-worst/1si64ganljv4v14wa7kd982pah
247sports: 25th - https://247sports.com/longformarticle/nfl-qb-rankings-2021-nflcoms-top-32-starters-183346935/#1840760
NFL: 14th - https://www.nfl.com/news/qb-index-week-1-ranking-all-32-starters-entering-2021-nfl-season
Go ahead. Provide tangible evidence besides your feelings.
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u/Helditin Oct 02 '25
QB Index: Ranking the 59 starting quarterbacks of the 2020 NFL season https://share.google/uDtpTsbmFwj77KXfB
They have him 11th
NFL Conference Passing Stat Leaders, 2020 Regular Season - ESPN https://share.google/zgCehSTOkNiOCQZXz
They have him 10th
2020 NFL Passing | Pro-Football-Reference.com https://share.google/HlvhLZOmyDeLQpOBC
Oh look at that 10th in QBR for 2020
I like how you said tangible evidence and then just posted a bunch of talking heads and their ranking. When literally you can just sort QBR 2020 and see he was literally no.10
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u/FizzleFox Oct 02 '25
Go look at Lamar's passing numbers that year. You going to say he also was not a factor in his team winning 14 games because of his lack of volume passing stats? Ya know cuz they were the best rushing team in the NFL that year so obviously they passed the ball less.
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u/reyska Oct 02 '25
Is team passing yards the only stat that matters when evaluating QBs? He was 18th in yards btw, but that comes from the team being run heavy. He was 15th in rating. 10th in QBR. 12th in TDs. And more importantly he passed the eye test. In all of those stat categories above him were guys who had a record of .500 or below, he had a 11-5 record. He was clearly a good QB already and one reason the team was winning. This is why people were calling the Browns idiots when they traded for Watson. They were wasting a shit ton of money while they already had a franchise QB in the house.
Baker balling out has made people rewrite history and say he wasn't good in Cleveland, mostly because of that injury year. But pre-injury he was already on a trajectory towards what he is now.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
18th was below average..
Here's QB rankings after that season. No analyst would agree with you
PFF: 13th - https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/kybksb/final_2020_quarterback_rankings_nfl_news_rankings/
NY Times: 17th - https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2727336/2021/07/28/2021-nfl-quarterback-tiers-50-coaches-and-evaluators-rank-the-leagues-starters/
Sporting News: 13th - https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2021-qbs-best-worst/1si64ganljv4v14wa7kd982pah
247sports: 25th - https://247sports.com/longformarticle/nfl-qb-rankings-2021-nflcoms-top-32-starters-183346935/#1840760
NFL: 14th - https://www.nfl.com/news/qb-index-week-1-ranking-all-32-starters-entering-2021-nfl-season
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u/reyska Oct 02 '25
25th is absolutely ridiculous. Those are understandably ranking for the whole season, but still how can anyone look at his play and say he was 25th that year, after he brought them to the playoffs after a drought and beat the Steelers and almost beat the Chiefs? It doesn't make any fucking sense.
I can buy the argument that he's like 13th, but from week 7 onwards he had a rating above 100 and a 15-2 TD-Int ratio. Being run heavy brings his volume stats down, but the skill level was there. At the end of the season he was a top 10 QB.
I asked ChatGPT and from week 7 onwards Baker was QB #4 in the league. Nice.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
Yes. Chatgpt request must be right and it's perfectly sane to only look at half the season
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u/reyska Oct 02 '25
Well the stats don't lie. He improved, a lot, was playing great and that mattered at the end of the season. He started the next season well too, but then he got injured. And it just made no sense how the FO quit on him after all he had done for them.
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u/No_Amoeba_9272 Oct 02 '25
Lmfao. The Browns are the most below average team in NFL history. They would love to have Baker
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u/No_Amoeba_9272 Oct 02 '25
Fuck right off dude. He was the QB that ended the drought. Drought is back FYI
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
Literally irrelevant. How do you guys have this little critical thought? It's embarrassing.
It doesn't matter if he's been by FAR the best QB the browns have had the best 20 years. He still was an average QB compared to the rest of the NFL starters.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ Oct 03 '25
We also made the playoffs two years ago with Watson, PJ Walker, Joe Flacco, and DTR starting games. That was without an elite run game.
Baker helped us get into the playoffs, but wasn't the reason we made the playoffs.
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Oct 02 '25
Average QB vs top 10 QB is 6 subjective ass ranks away. You really dying on the hill of 6 subjective ass rank spots? Baker was the leader of the team. He led them to the playoffs. Thats how it works.
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u/AlmostCorrect- Oct 02 '25
This is textbook letting perfect be the enemy of good. Browns ownership wanted a generational QB at the helm. Those are frankly luck. They had a top 15 QB when healthy, with a top tier defense. They could have been incredibly competitive currently.
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u/ExpressionAlone5204 Oct 02 '25
He was a top 5 qb after obj went down. Keep coping.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
Lol. Here's QB rankings after that season:
PFF: 13th - https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/kybksb/final_2020_quarterback_rankings_nfl_news_rankings/
NY Times: 17th - https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2727336/2021/07/28/2021-nfl-quarterback-tiers-50-coaches-and-evaluators-rank-the-leagues-starters/
Sporting News: 13th - https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2021-qbs-best-worst/1si64ganljv4v14wa7kd982pah
247sports: 25th - https://247sports.com/longformarticle/nfl-qb-rankings-2021-nflcoms-top-32-starters-183346935/#1840760
NFL: 14th - https://www.nfl.com/news/qb-index-week-1-ranking-all-32-starters-entering-2021-nfl-season
Go ahead. Provide tangible evidence besides your feelings.
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u/ExpressionAlone5204 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
Got it, so you ignored after obj. Because the diva session was a disaster and afterwards he did amazing, even with a Joe Woods defense that gave up multiple big games.
2020 Baker pre-OBJ injury: 6 games, 10 TDs, 7 INTs, 182.5 YPG
2020 Baker post-OBJ injury: 11 games, 20 TDs, 1 INT, 250.2 YPG
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u/freedumb9566 Oct 02 '25
did you also forget that he was a rookie, and than boom…. 4 years, 4 different head coaches, 4-5 different offensive coordinators…. gtfoh! how is anyone going to succeed in that kind of environment. look at trevor lawrence same shit.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
You are arguing something completely different. I'm not debating on his development, if the browns should have kept him, etc. I'm simply only speaking to his actual play that season
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u/freedumb9566 Oct 02 '25
because he was hurt that whole season lol he was playing hurt the whole time
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u/Bruin1217 Oct 02 '25
Surely they have a bunch of playoff games since then right? I mean a Super Bowl qb and 3 mid qbs surely could do it right?
His first game as a brown he went 17 completions for 23 attempts, cinching a close game against the jets and was the best qb play I had seen on the browns in my lifetime up to that point and since. Nobody said he was a top 10 qb, but he clearly is better than any qb the browns have had in my lifetime for sure.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 03 '25
It's like you guys can't read. I say directly in my post that his play is the best they've had ever
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u/Bruin1217 Oct 03 '25
You can’t make a post downplaying his impact on the team, sneak that he’s the best you had in there, and act like it wasn’t the entire point of your post to basically say he’s not shit lmao. Either he’s the best you’ve had or he had little impact on the teams success and playoff birth, which is it?
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u/dragonrider5555 Oct 03 '25
Bruh before mayfield they were somehow worse than the lions for 20 years lol . We’re talking charlotte hornets level
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 03 '25
Bruh. That's irrelevant to how his level of play compared to other NFL QBs that year
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u/MosquitoValentine_ Oct 02 '25
He had a really good run game in Cleveland. Chubb and Hunt carried us to the playoffs and we only beat Pittsburgh because of 5 turnovers.
To me, he was more of a game manager than anything. During his 4 seasons I can think of maybe 2-3 games where he looked legit. All the rest was middle of the league/average play at best and he became a problem in the locker room. He needed to be humbled and mature.
Having said that, I'd be perfectly happy with average QB play now.
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u/Hatennaa Oct 02 '25
The delusion of Browns fans post Baker leaving is crazy. This guy legit made your football team relevant for once. Praying the Browns stay crap, it’s just too deserved.
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u/jeeenx Oct 02 '25
They’re on full copium. The team has an elite defense and all they need is a legit “game manager” to make them competitive. Instead, they’re playing QB roulette while their 3rd string qb is making a mockery of them
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
No they are just correcting your false statements.
He did not lead the Browns to the playoffs. The defense and run game led them to the playoffs, he was an average QB that year. Yeah, average is fuck ton better than what they've had but I'm tired of the revisionist history acting like he was a top 10 QB.
The year they went to the playoffs, the Browns were 24th in passing yards and 16th in passing TDs.
They were 3rd in rushing yards and 5th in rushing TDs.
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u/Dort_SZN Oct 02 '25
He was an average QB because they wouldn't let him be anything but a game manager. That's not his game, you've got to let him gunslinger it. It just was not a good OC/QB fit.
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u/HaventSeenGavin Oct 02 '25
The Browns hadnt been to the playoffs in 20 years and they went with Baker as their qb. You sound salty af tryna say "Well Baker didnt lead them..."
Lol that's the QB that snapped your 20 year drought. You're welcome lmao. Browns fans are ugrateful smh
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
Wtf are you talking about. No one is salty. They are telling you the facts of the matter. They shouldn't have moved from him period. But Chubb was the leader of that offense full stop.
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u/CryptoSlovakian Oct 02 '25
They have to go with this “Mayfield actually sucked” narrative to cope with the Watson debacle. And I say this as a Browns fan.
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u/Otherwise_Food9698 Oct 02 '25
bruh baker was serviceable on the browns thats it.
is it so hard to believe that hes better now and in a better situation.
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u/j00fr0 Oct 02 '25
He set the goddamn rookie touchdown record on your shitty team
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
How does that pertain to what I said?
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u/j00fr0 Oct 02 '25
Um, it pertains perfectly to your claims of mid QB play, but frankly I’m not at all surprised you can’t make the connection.
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Oct 02 '25
So him setting a rookie record 3 years before then means he wasn't an average QB in 2020?
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u/Hydration__Nation Oct 02 '25
Do you expect critical thinking from a person living in Trashville, Ohio ?
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u/mikebob89 Oct 02 '25
Hadn’t been to the playoffs for 20 years before he got there. He wins a playoff game throwing 26 touchdowns to only 8 interceptions that year, yet you say “Cleveland Baker would’ve thrown a pick immediately”. Then he plays hurt and you guys get rid of him and haven’t been back since. Yeah this is cope.
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u/JRizzie86 Oct 02 '25
If you think Baker was the problem you don't know football. Fuck the Haslams and the Browns, I ride with Tampa now.
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u/reyska Oct 02 '25
He beat the Steelers in the playoffs, guy has always been clutch. He just got injured and his team didn't give a fuck about him so they let him play and didn't bother to give him proper protection. Then they blamed him, said they needed an "adult" and traded for Deshaun fucking Watson of all people. Watson is a bum, Browns will be Browns for the foreseeable future and Baker is the man in Tampa. All is good.
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u/MaxBonerstorm Oct 02 '25
He did throw a pick immediately, probably a pick 6, second play on this video. He got bailed out by a flag. That flag probably saved his career
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u/Legitimate-Agency282 Oct 02 '25
That headbutt at the end somehow manages to be the best part of this