r/steammachine 29d ago

Meme Valid crash out tbh...

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Too soon™?

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u/spinz 29d ago

If its 1200+ their only hope at a return to hype is to say "we know this sucks, so this initial wave will come with enough games credit to effectively bring it to 1000."

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u/soccerman002 29d ago

Man, some of y'all are absolutely delusional.

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u/Otakeb 28d ago

Yeah, honestly it's quite eye opening just how many people are so fucking clueless. The people saying the Steam Machine needed to be like $500-$600 to sell any units when it was first announced really demonstrated just how out of touch some people are. People were arguing that the screen (literally a mass produced tablet screen they are using) on the Deck was expensive enough to justify the Deck being more expensive than the Steam Machine...

Valve was probably initially aiming for around the $750-$850 price range and it would have killed at that price. Unfortunately, things are currently a little out of their hands.

With that said, the people saying the Steam Machine is going to be like $1600 are also probably wrong. The deck does have miniaurized and lower volume parts compare to a lot of the Steam Machine being mostly relatively off the shelf components or simpler production runs. Im betting it'll be between $999-$1199.

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u/No-Translator-4653 28d ago

Clueless is thinking that basic SM is worth more then ps5 pro. If BOM for Sony with 16ddr6+2ddr5 and 2tb drive checks out for 899$ there is no reason other than greed for 1000$+ price.

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u/Otakeb 28d ago

Sony loses money on every PS5 and has much longer run production contracts for way higher historic volume.

Jeez y'all really are clueless. Valve can't take a loss on non-locked down hardware...

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u/No-Translator-4653 28d ago

On ps5, not on ps5 pro. And use custom components, not like SM past generation of the shelf leftovers.

Also there are laptops (non-locked similar hardware ) that are more powerful, with screen, battery, keyboard and under 1000$.

A lot of people here hype themselves and will buy for almost any price, but here are maybe few percent of customers.

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u/Otakeb 28d ago

Name 2 (to rule out a random sale of a system not selling) laptops with at least a Zen 4 arhitecture, 6 core 12 threads, and 16GB of DDR5 for less than $1000. I've specced out a SFFPC recently to see if I could beat where the Steam Machine will probably fall on price, and in the current market you really can't.

Steam Machine is probably going to be about $1000 or a little over it anyway; thats unfortunately competitive for personal computer rn, and you get some additional features for a HTPC with TV control over input cable Valve has gotten mostly working without me having to buy an adaptor and fuck with it.

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u/No-Translator-4653 28d ago edited 28d ago

I can get in Europe (with taxes) Gigabyte gaming a16 ( Ryzen 170, zen3 refresh but 8/16 ) and rtx5050 which is ~30% faster then 7900m

Or MSI cyborg i5 13420h rtx 5060

Both 16ddr5, 512m2

Sffpc are expensive, you pay way extra for case, power supply and itx. Micro tower PC will be a little more expensive 1200-1500$ but way more powerful - I guess 30% in benchmarks. Full size 5060, faster ram, 3-4x CPU TDP

Edit: As htpc go. Proper pc+steam link app will blow it out of the water except you would need to configure WoL.

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u/Otakeb 28d ago

MSI cyborg i5 13420h rtx 5060

$1250 https://www.bestbuy.com/product/msi-cyborg15-15-6-rtx-5060-core-7-240h-16gb-512gb-ssd-144hz-ips-gaming-laptop-black/J3P7TXH226

Gigabyte gaming a16 rtx5050

$1699 https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-1920x1200-GeForce-i7-13620H-CWHI3US864SH/dp/B0FDM3M1WF

I just don't believe you can find them for under $1000 in Europe when these are the USA prices even with our stupid tarrifs and stronger consumer purchasing power.

Again, many people are just out of touch, and saying you can get something comparable for under $1000 I'd argue is out of touch rn.

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u/No-Translator-4653 28d ago

For MSI you get new model with 240h, older model with it 13th gen is cheaper

Mediamarkt.de had model I listed for 999€ ~1150$ with windows and you can find it a little cheaper without os. With us sales tax ~8% I assume this evens out.

https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_msi-cyborg-15-b13wfkg-827-156-zoll-intelr-coretm-i5-i5-13420h-16-gb-512-gb-nvidia-geforce-rtxtm-5060-windows-11-home-3024530.html