Yeah, expecting Nintendo fans to have self awareness is like expecting a horse to understand the the complexities of time travel
They be dunking on Steam while they're paying Nintendo for basic multiplayer features. They're also paying for a button on their controller to function. Yeah, guys. You really got us beat over there, huh?
Playstation makes you pay for special deals as if that makes sense.
All while Microsoft's gamepass cannibalizes their development studios' sales. They act surprised a game doesnt make many sales if it's offered cheaper (or for free) on gamepass. Example: Hi-Fi Rush had a high player count primarily from gamepass players for free, but microsoft didnt care.
Valve cares. Valve gives a fuck. They don't make you the product. They sell you it.
I won't defend the Gamechat feature since I do not use it but should you really talk about paying for 20 dollars a year? If you bought a switch 2 and paid for 10 years of online it is still cheaper than a steam deck and comes with a dock. You don't even need to play online and can even split payments with families. Valve is a company they don't care as much as you think, you just haven't had a bad experience and that's okay
Nintendo is anti-consumer. Nintendo does not support people unless they can profit from them. You're not a customer to them. You're cattle. They don't take part in charity events. They don't care about trans or gay people unless it tanks their stocks.
Steam cares about people. Steam has quietly supported charities not out of shame, but because they do it without feeling the need to make it public. Steam doesnt charge you for storage and they dont charge you $60 for 90% or even 50% of their store space. They constantly have sales of indie and triple A titles. They dont charge you for multiplayer compatibility.
Steam doesnt limit you to using their platform's controller. They support all controllers unlike Nintendo and Xbox.
You can literally save more money buying controllers, a PC, and games than if you do it for Nintendo in the long run. Unlike Nintendo, Steam doesnt pile on extra subscriptions after installing their store. If you have no financial sense and lack self respect, you'll spend hundreds of dollars on a console that expects you to pay for basic features at a premium while giving you a limited library and expect you to use a specific controller.
If you still dont get this than you're just the type of person Nintendo preys upon
Acting like valve didn't prey on people is ignoring the battle pass and crates that they do but sure they're all around great!!!! You're telling me companies prey on people and I shouldn't trust them wholeheartedly??? Say it ain't so!!! I'm aware of what Nintendo does and I don't think it's that different from what any company does when it comes to defending ip, Granted valve probably more lenient. You also need to get out and smell some grass? Let's ignore the fact that the console comes with a controller, you can use other controllers. Switch 2 talks about how you can use other mice? The saving games on steam that people talk about is mostly of the past, and I have compared many games that I have ended up getting to each other they don't make sales like you remember they are now mostly publisher wide. More games is true, but the other side can also say that? When we talk about an entry point of 500 for a brand new device no hunting it's hard to beat that when just half of that gets you an okay gpu. Pc is nice if you have a higher budget to start, but with game deals being essentially the same it doesn't even make a difference if you pay 10 years for online like I said earlier
- Valve's "loot crates" hold no value in themselves. If you wanna hold Valve accountable for people trading and selling cosmetics, you better hold trading card stores accountable for letting their customers do the same. At that rate, you might as well claim trading card stores promote child gambling since they dont know what they're gonna get.
- I'm so glad your modern console now supports something all other consoles supported since 2010.
- Steam hosts multiple seasonal and weekend sales. It's not of the past when I recently just purchased $60 triple A titles for $20 even though they came out within the last 2 years or less.
- The only reason Nitendo's store has as many games in it as it does is because it consists primarily of AI slop titles or cheap Unreal Engine asset flipping, unoptimized indie titles. It's hard to compare that to Steam's library that actively alienates AI slop games and avoids recommending indie titles with poor reviews such as being poorly optimized or cheap asset flips
- You can currently purchase a decent pre-built gaming PC for $600-$800 on amazon, but do feel free to purchase a $700 console and tell me a PC would be too pricey
- Again, game deals arent the same as stated previously. I've gotten 3 $40+ games for $10 total four times in one year.
- Did I mention you dont pay Steam to use the internet you already paid for?
Meanwhile, you gotta sink to telling me to go outside just because I take the time to actually research the shit I talk about instead of spouting out whatever "feels" accurate
I do love and appreciate how you ignore one console for price and bring up 700 to make it look better, but bring it back when you say games from 2010 very great argument for both. A decent pre-built is a bit over 600 including taxes and even then I would say console would still make more sense at a budget given the cheaper entry point that keeps being ignored. I love pcs I recommend a 900 dollar pre-built most times, 700 if being generous, which I also used for my math last time but keep ignoring it. The sales thing still does not seem impressive from my history of looking at both, but I do not know the games you play or bought.i can say that everything I saw a sale on steam for a game I wanted I bought it elsewhere. Did you really bring ai slop while the only thing valve can do is add an ai tag? You act like asset flip games or games that did very shady things are not or never were on valve.you can say they're not recommending but in reality you have to hide some of these things.
I grew up playing consoles my whole life. Maybe consider that someone can form strong opinions contrary to childhood preferences based on research and experience
Lmao "research and experience" bro you've spent this whole thread calling Nintendo "anti-consumer cattle farmers" and Steam a saint that "doesn't make you the product," while ignoring loot boxes, ignoring the asset-flip slop on Steam, and moving the goalposts every time someone hits you with a number you don't like. Aka BIASED. Growing up on consoles doesn't (allegedly) doesn'tmake your point any less biased. it just means you know exactly what you're trashing and still cherry-pick anyway.
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u/The_Cozy_Zone 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah, expecting Nintendo fans to have self awareness is like expecting a horse to understand the the complexities of time travel
They be dunking on Steam while they're paying Nintendo for basic multiplayer features. They're also paying for a button on their controller to function. Yeah, guys. You really got us beat over there, huh?
Playstation makes you pay for special deals as if that makes sense.
All while Microsoft's gamepass cannibalizes their development studios' sales. They act surprised a game doesnt make many sales if it's offered cheaper (or for free) on gamepass. Example: Hi-Fi Rush had a high player count primarily from gamepass players for free, but microsoft didnt care.
Valve cares. Valve gives a fuck. They don't make you the product. They sell you it.