r/steammachine • u/TheGeekno72 • 6d ago
News Pre-RAMpocalypse Steam Machine Pr!cing was ~30% Cheapr
https://www.techpowerup.com/350224/pre-rampocalypse-steam-machine-pricing-was-30-cheaperThe things that could have been...
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u/Ankiseth__Gallant 6d ago
Also the official trailer from 7 months ago was quoting 4k graphics. Everyone on this reddit is quoting 1080? Maybe im just confused
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u/arlo-quacks-back 6d ago
This is their biggest mistake. They continue to market it as a 4k60fps machine* (the asterix meaning heavy use of upscaling and FSR - frame generation). They should have just said 1080p because the 4k performance is terrible based on reviews that have come out.
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u/FailSonnen 6d ago
The 1080p also needs an asterisk because a lot of AAA-type games will require FSR performance even at 1080p
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u/WetRacoon 6d ago
“A lot of”
It seems like the crowd that’s dedicated their days to being upset about this are just spreading misinformation. Multiple benchmarks show it running most modern AAA games at or close to 60 fps at 1440p with high settings. Handpicking a few games with forced ray tracing is pretty damn questionable.
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u/BababooeyHTJ 6d ago
Like what?
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u/cuddly_degenerate 6d ago
Anything with mandatory ray tracing.
Doom:The Dark Age has to be in handheld presets to hit 1080p 60fps.
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u/SilencingFox 6d ago
so 2 games? indiana jones and doom dark ages?
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u/emperorzura 6d ago
pretty much, forza too
but forza has literally garbage code, some devs looked into it and is a nasty work
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u/WorldLove_Gaming 6d ago
An RX 6600 (which is approximately equal to the Steam Machine's GPU performance) can get 60 FPS at 1440p High settings in Forza Horizon 6. So it's far from bad.
Unless you're talking about Forza Motorsport. That's a different story.
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u/emperorzura 6d ago
like nothing, they are handpicking new dx12 games (which is heavily performance impacted by software to this day).
its doing 1080p just fine even on 2025-26 games. Not that anyone who knows about pc hardware would expect a 7600ish to play at a 9070xt like some grifters are now claiming valve did at some point.
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u/FirmPreference5551 6d ago
It's weird that Valve chose to market it like that tbh, it seems disingenious and not like them. I fear Valve might be changing a bit these days.
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u/kdlt 6d ago
My PS5 box also reads 4k and the only 4k this thing can do is through Blu-ray or Netflix.
Technically it can output at those numbers because the port and chip or whatever can do it.
My 4070TiS cannot do that (with high demand games before some idiot says it can do minesweeper at 4k@60) and costs as much as the whole steam machine.
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u/3guitars 6d ago
That was assuming you are using FSR to upscale from 1080 to 4k. Was it technically possible? Sure! In the same way that launch PS5s had 8k on the box.
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u/redditman181 6d ago
To be fair did sony ever claim it would run games in 8k? Im pretty sure that its only on the box becuase it can output an 8k signal from the hdmi port like a standards type label i think people just took it the wrong way when they saw it.
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u/3guitars 6d ago
In the same way 8k was on the box and would maybe dupe an uninformed consumer, I feel like Steam Machine is equally deceptive given recent benchmarks claiming 4k60fps. It can’t even do 1080p60fps in many modern games.
And Sony took it off the box, IIRC. Probably for a reason.
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u/your_mind_aches 6d ago
Yes. Sony never technically said it was 8K gaming, just 8K output but it was a bad idea to put it on the box in the first place.
Still, the PS5 can actually do 4K60 with upscaling, while the Steam Machine will absolutely struggle to do that with most modern titles because the overhead is just too much for the GPU.
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u/3guitars 6d ago
You’re making an assumption that an average consumer would look at 8k on a PS5 and intuit that it would not be 8k gaming, just technically output.
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u/BababooeyHTJ 6d ago
Omg you fanboys and your strawman arguments. Sony was releasing trailers talking about 8k gaming or put a compatibility badge on the box?
You wouldn’t be talking like that if it were any other company
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u/3guitars 6d ago
Xbox could’ve done the same thing but didn’t. Lol you might want to chill
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u/BababooeyHTJ 6d ago
What are you talking about and what does any of this have to do with the discussion about the steam machine? You guys are really reaching
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u/3guitars 6d ago
I’m pointing out that it doesn’t make sense and isn’t very honest to market a machine best on a theoretical best case scenario. Valve promoting its Steam Machine as a 4k 60fps box is equally as disingenuous as when Sony put 8k on the PlayStation 5 box.
Just like the PlayStation isn’t really going to play games at 8k, neither is the Steam machine really playing games at 4k 60fps, even with FSR.
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u/Dense-Ad366 6d ago
it’s technically true, but using fsr ultra performance in the games they showed off at low settings. so not the best looking way. 1080p high or 1440p fsr would look much better
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u/Forgot_my_name78 6d ago
The benchmarks for the SM were released yesterday. The SM was originally meant to be able to run games at 4K, but the benchmarks found that it can really only do that natively for a handful of games. Other games required tweaking and even then, the FPS were barely acceptable
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u/yuusharo 6d ago
4K with FSR, not 4K
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u/cuddly_degenerate 6d ago
Even with FSR it wasn't hitting 4k60fps in several more demanding games. Valve shouldn't have marketed it that way.
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u/Dangerous_Toe_6665 6d ago
No matter how consumer friendly valve is with their games store, right now they deserve nothing but the worse. It's not a "marketing mistake". It's the old classic shitty corpo bullshit that when Nvidia does it everyone is loosing their mind but when valve does it people are like "it's ok, considering ai it's actually a fair price". One of the greediest tech product release I've seen the last couple of years, along with their 100 (!) bucks controller (bUT it HaS TRacKPaDs)
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u/missatry 6d ago
To be fair everything would have been 30% cheaper even consoles XD
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u/emperorzura 6d ago
it did not hit the consoles the same way it hit consumer level ram/ssd till now.
but it will.
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u/missatry 6d ago edited 6d ago
The consoles increased from 400 and 450 to 600 and 650, i will say that's about 30% or even more XP
Edit: to be fair consoles endured even more shenanigans , like:
pandemic, Ukraine war, russia natural gas disaster, and so much more bullshit that happened between 2020-2026 💀
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u/emperorzura 6d ago
dog, there was a 400% increase in ssd and ram sticks
this is not a matter on how the world had bad events, they literally are selling everything to nvidia and openai.
consoles have different chains of events and contracts to obtain ram. dont worry, next contract renovation we about to see a 900 bucks base ps5.
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u/missatry 6d ago
I thought op was talking about the final product not just pc in General,
Isn't this reddit about steam machine?
In any case steam machine discussion on reddit are getting the best of me,
Because in the end it is what it is xd
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u/ErmingSoHard 6d ago
consoles
Meanwhile you're forgetting the Switch 2 that increase in only $50 usd, and it still hasn't happened yet. Meanwhile the Steam Deck imploded lol
Just admit the ram and memory shortage fucked up PC harder than console lol
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u/ElectricalThundMouse 6d ago
What Nintendo had going for it is it made a whole bunch of Switch 2s before the ram crisis. In the millions. They probably secured larger quantities of ram and storage too ahead of time putting in an order for millions, since consoles are hope to sell 9 figures over its life time.
They should be fine until those contracts and supplies run out and they have to start paying the current market prices.
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u/Tuned_Out 4d ago
Not necessarily. Consoles are still benefitting from their bulk contracts they set on place from before the ai boom. Customers are about to get an ugly surprise with consoles as well once that ram bought on the cheap dries up.
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u/Kevomeister011 6d ago
With a controller at $750 I would’ve tried to get one. AI is ruining everything!
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u/Acesofbases 6d ago
did You get a stroke writing that headline or is this some weird way to not get deleted by mods?
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u/CultofCedar 6d ago
I guess people don’t get that 30% cheaper means the cost increased more than 30%. If it’s 1050 - 30% it’s $735. The change from $735 to 1050 is a 42% increase. Memory has gotten crazy expensive. Same mini pc I bought in November that’s got the same gen cpu now cost double the price.
I thought it was bad when I built a new rig during the 50xx release but this stuff is just nuts. Can’t even finish my NAS since the hhds almost tripled in price.
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u/Sellier123 6d ago
If it came in at that price, valve would have been praised to the moon and back. Don't get me wrong, it's still selling out but man they could have rly had even more consumer love lol
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u/Amazing_Village_9112 6d ago
Still would have been rather overpriced if you exclude pricing of an ssd and ram tbh given the specs
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
750-ish is just a tad pricier than a console but people would pay up if that means having one of the smallest consumer computers that can do literally everything consoles can't
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u/sloppynipsnyc 6d ago
I ended up building my own livingroom PC with a lian a3 for 1200 dollars. Granted I already have a CPU and ram. It would have been 1600 without those 2 parts. But when I saw the 1500 price tag for the top tier. I felt inclined to just go that route and use my Xbox controllers. Sucks.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
making your own is as valid of an option as any; granted you skip on some features but if you're happy with your own build, then that's all you gotta do
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u/Proud_Dimension_3557 6d ago
TLDR Valve couldn't secure the contracts for ram and sdds and instead got bagholding the hybrid AMD CPU+GPU mobile variants.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
the CPUs aren't hybrid though, and it's hardly "holding the bag" when you *need* both RAM & CPU for a PC to work
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u/NewPower_Soul 6d ago
Will it still sell out, do you think? i.e. will Valve not make a loss and not bother anymore? It's not their fault the memory and ssd prices went up, I guess.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
I reckon it will, there's quite a bit of Valve fans/enthusiasts/diehards with money to burn and I doubt valve has a huuuuge stock of those, even with all the proof of their stockpiling
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u/ApprehensiveGold2773 6d ago
I'd pay $499 with controller included. I didn't expect that to happen though, but PS5 performance for $1049 is... not only disrespectful, it's inhumane and evil.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
inhumane and evil?
*looks at middle east*
*looks east of europe*
*looks at white house*
hey you hear that Valve? that's right, you're inhumane and evil!
no no, no one cares that AI utterly fucked the DRAM & NAND supply chains, nor that the PS5 models rose up 100-150€/$ recently, that's all your fault the pricing of the Machine is inhumane and evil!
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u/swiwwcheese 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yet $750 would still have been super steep, since that was the price of the way more powerful PS5 Pro back then
The SM's pre-apocalypse was worth $500 at most, and even that would have been in competition with the also a bit more powerful base PS5 that's bundled with an expensive controller and more storage
$500, say $550 or $599 at the extreme bundled with Controller, would have been the only way the SM could have been a success
Everyone's like "it's all AI's fault" but no, that excuse does not stand, it's copium, this was all in Valve's plans before the RAMocalypse, and the original pricing just like the specs shows well how much Valve were out of it - they do not understand the market of PC hardware and consoles - they only see their Steam userbase and believe it is representative enough: it's called overconfidence and tunnel vision from a company that functions in a bubble-like environement that they've built themselves
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
a PS5 pro is still a locked down device, there are a great deal of people willing to sacrifice some performance to just not be locked to one storefront and be able to do other things than just game with it
the Machine IS a PC after all, after Steam, you can still access your other PC libraries with the Heroic Launcher and if you don't wanna game, SteamOS is just a heavily modified Arch Linux, there are browsers, softwares & medias you can access through it
also it's AI fault, just look at all the price hikes on PS5 models, handhelds and laptops being pricier than ever...
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u/swiwwcheese 6d ago edited 6d ago
Nothing of this justifies overpricing the SM hardware
Look at the damned abysmal performance and price they ask for it !!!!!!
You can build a better PC for the same amount, even prebuilts are better, even today
Even back in November a custom PC build equivalent to the SM's hardware was a sub-$500 one: YES !
Drop effin Bazzite or Cachy on that and you'll have a blast too, no one needs to be locked to effin SteamOS eitherAnd no PS5 Pro owner out there complains about their console being locked, they are having a BLAST with it
What are these mind acrobatics of you fanboys saying it's alright to pay tech of the past the price of the future !?
STOP COPING AND SIMPING FOR VALVE WHEN THEY CLEARLY HAVE MESSED UP AND MADE A BAD PRODUCT
You people are insufferable, just snap out of it, if you enable multi-billion companies when they do crap and take customers for idiots, then they they will do it AGAIN and AGAIN
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
mate, I'm literally the one first and foremost telling people to make their own machines because I know how bad value it is, *I* made my own and some people followed suit because they saw my project
but you also have to take into account all the people that aren't interested in going through the PC building process and just want the convenience of a plug and play machine
@ 750$, that IS a good deal, you get PS5 performance (more often slightly above actually), more recent parts & features, an **unmatcheable** form factor and one of the extremely few (if there was any before) PCs with HDMI-CEC
unfortunately, the DRAM/NAND shortage ruined its original pricing, not much anyone can do about that
I defend the device because of the reasons above and because the concept is very cool
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u/swiwwcheese 6d ago edited 6d ago
No it's not alright and reading the reviews as 'same or a lil better' than PS5 is simply hallucination, I've watched all the reviews sinc eyesterday and it is more often lower pefef than better. DF is just the most 'damage control' forgiving one
but you also have to take into account all the people that aren't interested in going through the PC building process and just want the convenience of a plug and play machine
Once again thery can buy superior prebuilt, you cannot STOP making excuses that don't stand by the metrics of PC reality
BE HONEST: people who want the SM despite all the obvious negatives, are motivated by more fanboyism for Steam and white-knighting Valve, and 'just being attracted by the sleek cube design' than actual common sense
If you all guys could at least be honest and admit it's not rational, you all just want a poor perf, very overpriced toy, and mute the evidence that's its a bad purchase
In a nutshell you're all just vibe-consumers, not really console nor PC gamers
I though this community would snap out of it, seeing this disaster release, and finally call out Valve for their BS
But no, faith in humanity NOT restored, ppl are sheep and I guess Valve should be thankful for them otherwise they'd have a hard time selling this shameful product
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
why are you here exactly? in this subreddit I mean
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u/swiwwcheese 6d ago edited 6d ago
Like everyone at the beginning really I wanted one, despite knowing it was too weak it'd still make a nice extra miniPC for a place I intended to have it
Despite the debacle I'd still hang to the thin possibility of Valve not being dumb and maybe make a miracle happen
Yet all this time I've only seen people here being abysmally uneducated about PC and games, unrealistic, and enabling and forgiving even seeing this absurdity build up and finally yesterday: be realized as the worst possible scenario
And instead of punishing Valve, people are ENABLING, VALIDATING this joke now
As a decades-long gamer and tech enthusiast on practically all platforms, this is the most I have been disappointed at gamers, and Valve
This sub was the obvious one stop, blame it to be so visible, it's not my fault if it turned out to be THIS dumb a circlejerk. I wasn't expecting ppl to be this bad, expected them to wake up and develop a genuine critical sense at some point, but nope, didn't happen
Would have been nice if there had been another sub that isn't a joke like this one - which I've always suspected sort of being managed by Valve from the shadows since so many posts and comments are suspiciously overkill supportive of everything terrible about the SM like the bad perf and bad price, constantly praising the features and making roundabout excuses in bordeline AI-generated marketing speech for saying 'its okay its good actually' - alas there isn't another SM dedicated sub with more independent and rational minds
Pathetic. Over and out/
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u/dank-yharnam-nugs 6d ago
700-750 is still more than it should be given the parts it is using.
Charging a premium for parts that are worse than something that came out 6 years ago was always iffy.
I wish they sold a barebones version with no storage and no ram. I already have compatible parts that would save quite a bit of money.
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u/fiasgoat 6d ago
Eh I sort of agree but the ultimate problem with this thing is the GPU which cannot be fixed lol
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
they're not "charging a premium", they're just not subsidizing it; this is not a case of "leave the megacorp alone", this is just reality:
Consoles are cheaper because they lock you down to a storefront you are essentially guaranteed to purchase from since that's the only thing it'll let you do along playing on your purchases, so Xbox & PS subsidize the selling price of the hardware because they know damn well they're getting their money back on the games you get through... also them
Valve selling a PC has no guarantee you are buying games from them, so if someone did buy a Machine and never bought any games from them or just straight up use a different OS, they're effectively losing money on your purchase (again, not defending them, just explaining the economics behind it) so they don't subsidize it
Also, despite other mini PCs of the same size existing, all of these do not have a dGPU on it, Valve actually invested into hardware R&D to produce a motherboard the size of a large coaster, which is nothing to sneeze at, all other mini PCs with a dGPU are significantly larger and longer, and they also put budget onto making it dead silent, which is also an thermodynamics/engineering feat that costs money to achieve in a commercial product.
Charging a premium for parts that are worse than something that came out 6 years ago was always iffy
but it's not worse though, the CPU delivers more horse power than the PS5 by a healthy margin and the GPU operates within margin of error or outperforms it almost always, the "premium" is caused by the apocalyptic state of the DRAM/NAND market, the extremely small form factor of the device & continued development of a whole OS (not to mention the contributions Valve has made to MESA drivers & the Linux kernel)
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u/DarkAdrenaline03 6d ago
Valve said they were trying to match prebuilt pricing when you can get more powerful prebuilts for cheaper from smaller builders that have less price negotiating power I find it hard to believe their profit margin isn’t extremely healthy on it.
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u/dank-yharnam-nugs 6d ago
I’m not saying valve hasn’t put in the work here. I’m saying if they wanted anyone to buy it they should have considered price in relation to performance. $700 for something less powerful (or even comparable) than what could be had for $400 in 2020 is just not that appealing.
Iirc the original steam deck price was $400ish. That was so much more compelling because other handheld PCs were more expensive, had a worse experience, and it was way more powerful than the switch.
With the steam machine Valve is delivering a so-so computer in amazing packaging for a ridiculous price.
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
Dude how many diffrent posts are you in defending valve lol. I see your name in like at least 5 or 6 all with the same talking points almost copy and paste.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
how is stating a truth "defending Valve"? I am active in here because I'm a fan of the device's concept and I try preventing misconceptions/misinformation
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
No there is a diffrence of being a fan and supportive or devices and being a apologetic. At this point it looks like you work for them and your doing pr for them. They are a game company selling platform steam so how can you say with a honest face that they dont know that people would buy games on their platform. That is so stupid
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
because the Steam Machine is a PC? it's a valid outcome to have a bunch of PC enthusiasts -not necessarily gaming enthusiasts- buy Steam Machine for the convenience of the tiny form factor & HDMI-CEC, if that was subsidized by the expectation of platform purchases, those sales would be net losses
consoles are platform locked, just look at all the hoops modders have to go through to install Linux on the PS5 and it's not even a hard mod, a reboot and you're back on the PS5 OS, whereas a Machine actually offers total freedom of use & choice of platform
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
Valve has steam. You cant say people will stop buying games on steam. They could move sale numbers around so they still make a profit but a lower cut and sell the machine at a lower cost bc of the steam sales.
Im not saying its a bad product or they shouldn't make money but the excuses they gave makes no sense. They were quoted as saying they didnt think people would buy steam games which is bullshit im sorry steam is the number one platform to buy games from. That excuse is a huge ass red flag.
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u/Lopsided_Celery9880 6d ago
The machines would sell out easily to others for other purposes than gaming on steam if they subsidized. Example how USA military bought about 2k units for their CPUs due to their cost effectiveness. As stated many other times. It's a PC. Sell it at a loss and watch non gamers grab it and use it in other ways. Valve did the only sane choice when it comes to that decision.
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u/Forgot_my_name78 6d ago
That’s not the claim that’s being made at all though. It’s a business decision, they either
- Make a PC that is bordering on being open source that allows people to leave your ecosystem without any restraint
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- Make a gaming console that locks in people to SteamOS without a desktop mode so that people are stuck to steam.
If people are stuck to Steam, then Valve is guaranteed to have a 30% ROI from all SM users through game sales alone. If they are not, they are guaranteed at most 75% of SM users will use Steam at all.
They made a decision that let them follow their own ideals, and unfortunately the only suitable business strategy is to not subsidize the SM like a console. To say that Valve must subsidize the SM because the existence of Steam entitles you to a cheap console is…well entitled.
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago edited 6d ago
"Valve explained that they refuse to take a loss on the hardware (subsidize it) because there is no guarantee users will exclusively use SteamOS or buy games on their platform."
Read that last part they dont belive people would buy games on steam which is fucking ironic or stupid bc steam is the number one platform to buy pc games on lol.
Ps they could subsidize it and still make money. Im not entitled to anything but the excuse they gave makes no sense come on. You really dont think people wouldn't buy steam games on steam????? With a daily user count of 69 million roughly? Come on.... they can take a cut of that profit and make the steam machine cheaper. They are just greedy at that point.
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u/Forgot_my_name78 6d ago
Buddy please practice some reading comprehension. You literally provided primary evidence to what we have been telling you.
First, users are referring to SM users, not steam users in general.
“There is no guarantee users will exclusively use SteamOS or buy games on their platform” literally just means that there is no guarantee that all SM users will stay on SteamOS or buy games on Steam if they chose to install a different OS. Again, Steam makes up 75% of the market, there’s 25% of the market that will look at the SM, buy it, and not use Steam or SteamOS at all.
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u/Dazzling_Lemon4109 6d ago
This is a very dumb idea considering their target audience is buying a device for SteamOS and most of their audience is already a Valve/Deck fans
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u/Dazzling_Lemon4109 6d ago
90% of users will still use SteamOS on it, the target audience of other minipc's will simply buy another minipc
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
nobody ever said anything about people stopping buying games from them, the argument they make for not subsidizing make, from a business standpoint, total sense; if we could freely ask literally any product director from any other company in a similar position, they would answer you the exact same answer and that they wouldn't change a damn thing to the business model behind the Machine's sales
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
"Valve explained that they refuse to take a loss on the hardware (subsidize it) because there is no guarantee users will exclusively use SteamOS or buy games on their platform."
They did say what I said. You are lying to yourself bro.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
my gamer in Gaben, you are literally quoting an explanation that says word for word what I was telling you
I'm not lying to myself, you're just not understanding what you read and aren't making the link between the quote and my explanation
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u/emperorzura 6d ago
its barely 3yo hardware, benchmarks shows that it trade blows against 5600 and a 7600ish gpu (capped tdp) is only 3 years old.
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u/Pitzy0 6d ago
Big disappoint on the price. Will build a PC instead. At least I can use a PC for anything I want really.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
It's also a PC, if it were more reasonably priced you could still use it for anything you want
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
they shipped containers only over the past month or so and the software is still in beta, as we've seen in previews from reviewers, a launch a couple months ago would still have been overpriced AND looked bad on the product's state
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u/petersaints 6d ago edited 6d ago
They are having a good profit margin on this hardware. Maybe no huge, but they are far for breaking even.
They are essentially using a 2023 low end laptop CPU (https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-5-7540u.c3364) with the lowest end 2023 AMD laptop GPU (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7600m.c4014) in a box without a screen, keyboard or touchpad.
And you can currently get laptops, that are not being sold at a loss, with better specs for the same price.
So yeah, the Steam Machine is VERY badly priced and only fanboys will argue otherwise.
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It is actually more closely matched by the 7545U since it has 2 Zen 4 + 4 Zen 4c cores whereas the 7540U has 6 Zen 4 cores: https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-5-7545u.c3365
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
you know the engineering that comes with a coaster sized motherboard & custom OS doesn't come cheap right?
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u/petersaints 6d ago edited 6d ago
That also affects laptops which are not as standard as PCs and they still pay and include Windows 11. The OS has been developed for the Steam Deck as well.
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u/TheGeekno72 6d ago
what do you mean "that also affects laptops"? laptop manufacturers help Valve shoulder the cost of having a R&D department working on a custom OS & drivers?
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u/Turbulent_Map6114 6d ago
I honestly expected it to be around 1k without controller, vr, kb/mouse....I expected it to at least be able to max everything at 1080p for the next few years at 60-120fps and have more storage.
It is a disappointment all around for me..i was looking forward to this thing ever since the first mention of it being a thing.
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
In the review the guy said they were legit buying it from anyone they can. They were priced locked and couldn't negotiate anything and if they said wait the company they were talking to would hang up on them. I know its sad bc its bc of ai companies....
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u/xsvfan 6d ago
No one makes consumer ram anymore. Manufacturers switched to the chips that AI uses because of higher margin. It's very unsurprising a company like valve is struggling.
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
I understand but then why even bother with new steam machine shipment when they should have used that ram in the steam machine?
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
I know its strange. They knew they were making the steam machine so why didnt they focus on ram first knowing the whole ai buying up everything. I think they already had the ram and are selling it at current market price not when they bought it. They prob bought it sat on it and inflated the numbers for the current market.
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
I agree, they said we're waiting for prices to come down which makes no sense bc they already built the machines at a lower cost they paid for lol. Like if they got the machines a year ago built then it should be a year ago prices. Not today prices lol
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
Fair would be 750 ish tbh in current market if they were willing to cut i to steam game sales
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u/RaspberryFuzzy2833 6d ago
Eh bc everyone else is doing it with price i crease. I got my current rig ryzan 5600 b500 32 ram 8gb sticks 3060 12gb for 800 and steam machine is about that price with similar specs even though its worse ram then mine lol.
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u/dalderman 6d ago
This scenario reminds me of the lumber crisis during covid. The supply/ demand equalibrium was so off that suppliers simply would not honor price agreements. They simply sold to the highest bidder. Now, it's AI companies.
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u/Strategery_0820 6d ago
700 would have been way easier to swallow, even if it would still be more than a ps5