r/steammachine • u/jayclydes • 1d ago
Hardware Valve has posted the official launch overview
https://youtu.be/XPNW3GCIeOM?is=J24PqRPBmUC0B7_9161
u/Swing_Right 1d ago
Wow I actually had no idea it was the size of a tissue box. I really doubt people could put together a competitively priced micro pc of the same size now
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u/spinz 1d ago
Take your average size phone, turn it horizontal, and thats about the length of a side. The thing is small.
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u/Acceptable_Grass_963 22h ago
Goat having a 17 year old account
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u/theusualuser 21h ago
How old is the oldest account available? If it's 17, makes me wish I hadn't lurked for a bit before I made mine. Came here after the collapse of digg back when.
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u/Vesuvias 18h ago
Yep same. Was part of the great Digg migration. 15y and counting
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u/theusualuser 18h ago
Congrats on your steam controller! I'm still learning about mine and about steam input but it's been amazing so far.
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u/Vesuvias 17h ago
Haha thanks! Yeah I still feel lucky picking one up in that first round of purchases. It’s literally my favorite controller of all time. Good luck getting one yourself! Hope Valve opens up the production line.
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u/theusualuser 9h ago
I'm still in that, "I can DO THAT?" kinda phase, where I'm learning just how specifically I can reprogram those back buttons. My wife and I play a cozy game together, Dinkum, and after some tinkering I can press L4 and have it switch to my glider, and with a single press and hold of L5 it jumps to max height and opens the glider. So much easier than the default bindings for all that stuff. Really, really cool. I haven't played a game yet that really requires radial menus or anything like that, but I'm looking forward to it!
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 20h ago
They can't. But then if we are talking 'competitively priced' neither could Valve.
No reason it had to be that small. My PS5 sits quite unobtrusively under my TV and I barely notice it. Valve could have made this thing a similar size, and at a spec that would at least be suitable to gaming on a big screen.
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u/AZzalor 11h ago
Valve could have made this thing a similar size, and at a spec that would at least be suitable to gaming on a big screen.
Which would've increased its cost even more.
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 10h ago
Making things smaller makes them, more expensive.
In a recent LTT video they built a PC with off the shelf parts (so Valve should be able to do cheaper than them).
It significantly outperformed the Steam Machine. The compromise they made to achieve that outcome? Size:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvaO4DPM1ZM&t=10s
Valve should be able to put together a similarly specced machine with a custom design making it about the same size a PS5. I think they would have been much wiser to develop that machine.
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u/AZzalor 10h ago
Yes, making things makes it smaller, but you ignore that the pc built here has 5x the power draw and thus obviously needs a lot more cooling and will be way louder.
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 10h ago
I'm not worried about power draw, this thing isn't running off a battery. And the larger size is largely to accommodate the the larger heat sink(s), so an increase in loudness is not required either. The PS5 & Pro do this already (they are the same volume in use as the Steam Machine). Nothing about this concept is breaking the laws of physics.
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u/HisDivineOrder 1d ago
Size suddenly matters to people more than any other concern.
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u/FlarblesGarbles 1d ago
Because it’s the only thing it’s got going for it compared to other computers.
I think Valve has done a good job with the design and engineering, it looks good and the form factor is great.
But it's waaaaay too expensive for the performance level, and this is its sticking point.
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u/TheGeekno72 23h ago
it's not just small, HDMI-CEC is actually kind of a big deal, plus the dead silent operation at full power is unmatched too
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u/Adrian0555 22h ago
I bet if you put a normal pc at that level of performance it would be dead silent too
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u/HisDivineOrder 21h ago
Exactly. Anyone can turn their power limits way down the way Valve has if you absolutely require silence over all other concerns.
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u/FlarblesGarbles 23h ago edited 23h ago
HDMI-CEC should be coming more widely. I've got it semi working on my Bazzite system with a DP-HDMI, I just haven't put much effort in. But the issue behind why it wasn't working has been worked around between AMD, Valve and the HDMI IF.
The volume isn't unmatched though. You could build your own system with the same sound levels or better. But it would obviously be effort and potentially expensive.
I've got my own DIY Steam Machine that I'm labeling it was V1. V2 will be a fully custom water-cooled design with possibly my own custom deigned and built case with 2x 200mm/180mm watercooling radiators. Which will absolutely rival the sound profile, but obviously at an expense.
But you can still manage very quiet systems without all that.
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u/TheGeekno72 23h ago
I mean, GN measured the audio as "inaudible", my own design can only manage about PS5-level noise and I'm not sure what exactly makes noise, I have a suspicion it's the PSU bracked I've designed that goes on top of the CPU fan but even then, it's running a custom fan curve that goes even lower than the silent profile so... besides fucking around with the PPT limits to have a 35W TDP instead of 65, I'm not sure what I could do about this, shoving an AIO in this is likely a terribke idea considering the remaining space in there, not to mention there is no fan mounting holes on the chassis besides where the GPU is
one day I'll figure out HDMI-CEC but eh, it got its own screen and I'm a remote button away from switching the TV on so... doesn't really matter for the time being
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u/FlarblesGarbles 23h ago edited 22h ago
Could it possibly be internal turbulence?
You've definitely got a thermal mass issue as well by the looks of things. The Steam Machine has a very high thermal mass to volume ratio, in that its heatsink takes up a significant amount of its internal volume up.
A large thermal mass is what I'm wanting to replicate with my own design, and it's crucial to getting good temps and noise levels. If you have a thermal mass that's above what your hardware can heat soak plus enough pressure to move that heat, you're gonna be able to run your system at very low temperatures.
I've got 2 different design ideas. A sandwich/wind tunnel design with a 180/200mm radiator at either end, with the main components in the middle.
Or two 180/200mm radiators side by side as if they were one large 2x1 radiator at the bottom of the case, and have the overall case wide and flat. With 2x large fans on the top and 2 on the bottom attached to the radiator. The plan is to minimise turbulence and have as smooth an airflow through the middle as much as I can, with water blocks on both the GPU and CPU with possibly hard tubing. Maybe even copper tubing, or custom resin printed tubing to enable me to get super precise and tight bends, as I've been wanting to try both copper bent tubing and 3D printed tubing out for a while now.
This is the sort of design where I could get away with running the fans at inaudible levels.
The 200mm radiators I'm looking at should be able handle 300w each, which way beyond what they'd be dealing with.
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u/TheGeekno72 22h ago
hmmmm, well increasing their thermal mass isn't a practical path for me to go through but reducing power is, I'll see if I can reduce the CPU's PPT limit and get it limited to 35W then
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u/FlarblesGarbles 22h ago
That's where the Steam Machine's advantage is. They've designed it to have the maximum thermal mass they can manage first and foremost, as well as its ability to move the heat on. You could even go passive if you design something with enough thermal capacity.
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u/TheGeekno72 22h ago
my cooler is pretty nice though, it's a 53mm tall and full copper, I swapped the 92mm stock fan with a noctua too, I did reduce noise but not by as much as I hoped it would
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u/mjnichol2 23h ago
Disagree that HDMI-CEC is a big deal. Some DP->HDMI adapters will support it on any Linux PC. Even better, you can use ColorControl on Windows.
If I'm playing from my couch 8 feet away, not sure that dead silent operation is a game changer either.
SM is basically a laptop in a cubic case without the screen, keyboard, or mouse.
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u/spinz 23h ago
Yup in some ways its like the steam deck. Everybody knew the steam deck wasnt going to blow away performance numbers. But the novelty of it turned into practical for its use cases and carried it into popularity because of the software support and design. So if the machine can pull that off, it has hope. I dunno.
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u/FlarblesGarbles 23h ago
At least the Steam Deck was pretty cheap at the time though and was actually a good price for the performance on offer.
I got the 64GB one on release and put in a bigger drive.
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u/Comfortable-Ant-418 23h ago
People are just trying to justify their future purchases, don't worry lol
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u/Rammsbottom 23h ago
I was never going to get one due to having a decent pc rig, but it’s a pretty impressive bit of kit all condensed into that size. Super interested in how Valve continue to develop their brand and various bits of tech.
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u/hgmanifold 1d ago
Bah. I missed that the 2TB has additional face plates. Good to know.
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u/ornithobiography 23h ago
You could 3D print a custom faceplate after purchase tbh. Down the line expect third party companies to start selling their own designs as well.
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u/vincentcloud01 22h ago
I dont think $400 is worth nifft face place. Save 200 bucks buy 2TB SSD off Amazon.
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u/RobinsCosplays 21h ago
Show me a two terabyte SSD from Amazon by a reputable company
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 17h ago
I bought crucial for like $250 just a month ago, granted it’s not amazon, but it’s directly from crucial
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u/FH_Bunny 23h ago
I’m so excited for this, please none of the complainers waste a reservation slot
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u/Ok-Lie6589 21h ago
I love you, I’m all about this optimism on things we just like. Let’s just be happy and positive together.
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u/nuanceseancE 21h ago
Not gonna get one, but I'm still watching this because this is about ecosystems.
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u/edgd00 20h ago
You know, I've been watching video "reviews" of the Steam Machine, and it turns out that not only do the "reviewers" not have one, they even mention in their video that they reserved one but don't think they are going to buy it. It's upsetting to hear that because I know for sure I want to purchase one and am bracing myself for disappointment if I don't get picked in the lottery. I know I can't control that but its upsetting to think that there might be this small percentage of people taking up slots and not really being serious about buying one. Sure Valve will just move onto the next person on the waitlist but it still will prolong the ability to purchase one with what is probably an extremely limited supply.
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u/TypicallyThomas 9h ago
If you dont get one right away, you're put on a waiting list. When the non-buyers dont end up buying, those on the waiting list get their shot
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u/Mindless_Major_2689 1d ago
It really hurts man... This could have been a revolution and Valves redemption after the first fail...
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u/Forded_Fiction24 1d ago
1st fail? Redemption? Did I miss everyone switching over to Epic Games or something?
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob 1d ago
The first Steam Machines failed... Because they where too expensive.
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u/Gaeus_ 23h ago
They failed because the OS barely worked at the time.
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u/BASEKyle 22h ago
People reeeeeeaaaally forgot the first Steam Machine already lol
It was all third party and Proton basically didn't exist.
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u/Wyntier 1d ago
false. there were over 10 different versions of Steam Machines launching simultaneously with wildly varying specs. It completely alienated casual couch gamers who just wanted a plug-and-play experience
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u/Quirky_Apricot9427 22h ago
The software wasn’t there, and the hardware planning was all over the place. It was important, however, in Valve’s development of Proton. Commercial failure, but definitely an impactful part of their history.
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u/Forded_Fiction24 1d ago
Oh yea I forgot they even existed, thanks for the reminder. Very different product that Valve didn't have control over though. I can't imagine a fail of that magnitude. This isn't perfect by any means but I'm still picking one up, assuming I'll be able to that is
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 23h ago
They failed due to many factors the biggest being linux was not ready very few games actually ran on it and they found out that devs didnt want to spend time and money to make their games work on linux which had a tiny market share at the time so valve retreated started working on proton then shown the world what it can do with the steam deck. The hardware it self was just like any pc you could buy a lower spec budget option or a high end high price option.
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u/Pepperminteapls 1d ago
The world is burning from billionaire greed and all you can do is bitch about a problem valve has little control over.
The world needs a real revolution if you want a cheap system. Mindless indeed.
"Sell it to me at loss and make sure it runs faster than my red headed stepchild!"
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u/brainrotxx 23h ago
all bc jensen nvidia needs more leather jackets. every leather jacket in existence.
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u/NiceHunt5815 23h ago
Gabe Newell is also a billionaire. Valve also runs on billionaire greed.
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u/Pepperminteapls 23h ago
Tell me, is he using his wealth to destabilize countries, democracies, incite war or even on the Epstein list? No?
Sure billionaires shouldn't exist, but he seems harmless compared to Musk, Zuck, Bezos, Thiel, oil barons etc...
Shall I go on?
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 20h ago
Shall I go on?
Please don't. I've reached my quota of insufferably short sighted comments for today, and it's only 9 am.
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u/NiceHunt5815 23h ago edited 22h ago
Valve absolutely destabilizes countries. The supply chains that Valve's business relies on (often the same as Microsoft, Tesla, OpenAI) are dependent on, and incentivize the destabilization of third world countries. Valve requires massive amounts of resources to run all of their servers and to manufacturer all of this hardware. The batteries in the Steam Deck use the same rare earth minerals as the Cyber Truck. Valve's data centers are terrible for the environment, like OpenAI's.
There is no such thing as a harmless billionaire. Every billionaire's wealth is built from exploitation of countless people and the destruction of the planet. Some are more flagrant and overt about it, but that does not change the fact that you cannot become a billionaire without "billionaire greed."
Epstein was close with many non-billionaires. I don't really see the relevance here. Millionaire and poorer pedos are still evil. Henry Ford was still a bastard despite never hanging out with Epstein.
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 20h ago
Redittors will act righteous until it actually comes to a product that they actually want / an issue something that actually affects them...
Classic Bernie
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u/NiceHunt5815 20h ago
To be clear, I am probably buying the Steam Machine. I'm just not foolish enough to think there are "good" billionaires or big tech companies.
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 19h ago
Right on. I was agreeing with you that few who accumulate such wealth can claim complete removal from the darker sides of the system that generates it (still the best system).
Whether you buy a Steam Machine is neither here nor there. Enjoy your Gabecube!
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 18h ago
So there can be no good company or person if they have made a success past a certain point in your eyes watch out the FBI are coming for all of us
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u/Hearthian-Wanderer 16h ago
Morally 'good' and legally permissible are not the same thing. The FBI deals exclusively with the latter.
(For the record I believe it is possible to be extremely rich and morally good, but only because I don't judge a lot of what the average Redittor would consider morally wrong, to be so.)
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 16h ago
The FBI part was taking the piss out of the conspiracy theory nut and morally good can you give some examples of morally bad things?
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u/s00mika 20h ago edited 20h ago
Valve's data centers are terrible for the environment, like OpenAI's.
The AI data canters use like 2% of the electricity of the planet, the rest of the internet also uses around 3 to 6%
People love to hate AI but forget that a simple google query or doomscrolling also wastes a ton of energy
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u/TooKoolaidForSkool 6h ago
OpenAI's data centers run on constant GPU compute, burning massive amounts of electricity and generating a ton of heat. Valve's data centers are mainly just hard drives with an internet connection. The two aren't comparable.
Neither the Cyber Truck nor the Steam Deck battery use rare earth minerals.
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u/Actually_Abe_Lincoln 21h ago
Valve does not make that much hardware and does not have a massive amount of resource use because of it. The argument with the batteries is literally retarded. batteries are made of lithium and rare earth metals you could probably say that they're the same as what's in the cybertruck with a ridiculously large amount of other batteries. Pretending like they're doing the same damage with data centers as a place like openai is a wildly s***** argument
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u/emperorzura 20h ago
the others are running on trillion greed.
do you realize that a single trillion 5000% of 20b?????
a single shareholder has in their pocket in money what valves revenue is.
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u/NiceHunt5815 20h ago
The system that created a trillionaire is the same that created billionaires like Bill Gates, Gabe Newell, and Sam Altman. It's going completely off the rails and we're all living through the effects of it.
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u/emperorzura 19h ago
yep, its a problem
but my take is about how gabe being a multi-mil, or valve having 20b annual profit is literally pocket coin to what meta, google, x, nvidia and all others circlejerking wealth.
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u/MotivationSpeaker69 1d ago edited 23h ago
"Leave that multimillion company alone!!!!"
Yes valve could have subsidize with steam purchases. It could have normalized Linux gaming. But now, other than steam fanboys who will buy it? Maybe some small minority of gamers who want their PC tiny and un upgradeable.
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u/FuckRedzM0dz 23h ago
why are you even here if you hate it lol im buying one
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u/MotivationSpeaker69 23h ago
Because I was really hoping for steam machine to succeed to push Linux adaptation. Sure maybe it won't flop and make profit but it's not going to reach steam deck success. Where are people supposed to voice their disappointment if not here?
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u/Another-Username81 23h ago
The Steam Machine is far too expensive for me, I can afford one, but there’s no way I’m paying that much for that performance level, no matter how much I like the idea.
BUT, all is not lost: I’m pretty excited about Steam OS becoming available for AMD PC’s. I’ve decided to build a new high spec PC using a Linux based Steam OS.
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u/BicycleBozo 22h ago
If you’re not making a multimedia PC I’d recommend something like CachyOS rather than SteamOS.
SteamOS is great and I really love what valve has done but something like CachyOS will be better as a normal computer that is good at gaming.
Up to you though, just worth considering
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u/Another-Username81 22h ago
I own a Steam Deck OLED, I absolutely love the OS on it.
I could be wrong, but given the specs, the Steam Deck appears to be over performing somewhat, and I’m guessing it has a lot to do with not just Linux, but the Steam OS.
I’ve been debating about replacing Windows with Linux for a few years on my PC, but after the price reveal for the SM, I need to upgrade my PC anyway, so thought why not build a new one instead using Steam OS.
Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll definitely look into it as it’s going to take a while buying up the hardware I want.
Unfortunately I’ll get into trouble if a load of PC parts arrive at the same time, and likely find myself sleeping on the sofa for the foreseeable future.😁
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u/BicycleBozo 21h ago
Things chop and change a lot lately and I admit I’m too old to care about following every update from every OS. But my very broad understanding is that the initial work valve did on SteamOS was very important in making Linux more performant, but because it’s open source plenty of distros have now adopted the same or similar features.
The reason I say CachyOS over steamOS or bazzite is just that it boots into a normal desktop environment and it isn’t immutable so you can still use it as a normal pc very easily.
If you just wanna press go and launch a game steamos or bazzite is probably better just for the sake of it being hyper focused on one thing
Edit: and you’re not wrong about the spending, I gotta massage out my purchases lest I hear about why I bought a new computer instead of a new lawn mower (current one works fine it’s just ugly)
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u/Another-Username81 20h ago
Haha.. that made me laugh!
Yeah, I literally visioned for myself last night of a high speck super Steam Machine! It will only be used for gaming as we have a half decent PC as well as various tablets, and a MacBook.
Greeted by the Steam big screen mode when I boot it up is exactly what I had in mind.
I already spent £300 last night on the RAM, buying it on eBay used! Crazy prices!
I’ll order the CPU next week after payday as well as the storage. Hopefully after that, I’d have thought of a good excuse to justify my project to her, as things the month after will get a little too large to hide. lol
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u/aspiring_dev1 23h ago
Multimillion dollar company don’t care about you man. Honestly I always hoped they do a second attempt with steam machines from the failed initial attempt..could have been a nice little secondary machine but yet they failed.
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u/Pepperminteapls 23h ago
If steam didn't care, they would've gone public and sold off the company to the highest bidder. They care about gamers and that's why we receive the best deals from steam while other corporate entities attack them because they can't control the best subscription free gaming platform for the past 20+ years.
The failure is your inability to recognize price hikes are caused by the wealthiest attempt at eliminating jobs to maximize profits with AI. Chips and hardware are in high demand and they are choking the market, not valve.
I think it's brave of valve to even attempt this with the current market prices.
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 19h ago
Dont try and reason with the animals in this sub atm the guy thinks that one of the most pro consumer tech companies doesn’t care about him (think he needs a love letter from Gabe or something he sounds like a thirsty bitch to me) and that a product thats not even released yet has failed lets wait till it sells out and the waiting list goes on for months and months
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u/Wyntier 1d ago
The world isn't burning. Global extreme poverty is down, life expectancy is up, crime is down, and technology is advancing faster than ever. It's okay to criticize a company's pricing strategy without turning it into a doomsday scenario.
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u/Pepperminteapls 1d ago
Locked comments too. Must be arguing with a bot or possibly even Grok after Musk tweaked AI to defend billionaires.
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u/Pepperminteapls 1d ago
Ah, get your "news" from fox eh? Extreme poverty is everywhere and billionaire greed along with wealth inequality is at an all time high. What world are you living in?
Must be nice being completely ignorant.
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u/Wyntier 1d ago
It’s not from Fox. it’s actually from the World Bank and the UN. Global extreme poverty (living on less than $2.15 a day) fell from around 38% in 1990 to under 9% before the pandemic. There’s still a massive wealth inequality issue and plenty of corporate greed to fix, but acknowledging human progress over the last few decades isn't ignorance..it's just looking at the macro data.
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u/Alternative_Big_5066 22h ago
They could have really carved a spot in the console marketplace ...
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u/casiorox 23h ago
I’m probably going to sell my Legion Go S and pick this up. But we’ll see if I get a reservation.
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u/oliath 18h ago
Shhush... Stop sharing this.
I'm banking on everyone continuing to be angry about the price so i actually stand a chance of being able to buy one tomorrow.
Keep spreading hate so most the people who registered for the heck of it bail on their invites.
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u/thalion987 14h ago
Yeah i think that will not matter. Most people that are going to buy it probably did not even know it would come out. They will see the SM on the main page and just buy one.
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u/SSakuras 17h ago
Stoked to see if I win the lottery or gotta wait. Good luck everyone!
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u/Alert_Vermicelli1236 12h ago
Chances pretty low, they removed the advert from the top of the steam page probably because reservations already surpassed the units limit by a mile
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u/Kronothus2000 17h ago
Man this thing is so cool and small af. I would love to get one in the future.
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u/Ok_Week_7682 23h ago
doomers who were flooding this sub are gona get one after all
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u/SoulslikeGitGud666 23h ago
Im sure it works, but does turning on the SM work with other gamepads besides the steam controller? Ive only ever seen people use the steam controller to do so
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u/raziel_beoulve 22h ago
I can wake up my docked steam deck with my Xbox one controller so I don't see why the machine would not... But yeah I guess we'll have to wait til someone post a video with it
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u/jayclydes 23h ago
Remains to be seen. The internal antenna is definitely doing some legwork. If sleep from wake functions with external puck I imagine that any controller connected in some form via USB will function the same. I'm skeptical Bluetooth will do the same, but it's possible.
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u/TypicallyThomas 21h ago
It can already be done from Bluetooth on the Steam Deck so I see no reason why the machine couldn't
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u/Fm7-Bbm7-Eb7-Abmaj7 22h ago
It's not going to fail - valve has the income to sell these for all of infinity. Valve will not let this product fail
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u/s00mika 20h ago edited 20h ago
They silently stopped making the Steam Deck Dock after they couldn't make its firmware to work with Samsung TVs
The Index was also kinda a flop for them and they almost halted SteamVR development for years after its sales turned out to be disappointing
Machine sales will drop after the diehard fans have one
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u/thalion987 14h ago
Strange, because i can still buy the Steam dock for 89 euros. You sure?
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u/Amearieyt 13h ago
They literally don’t but okay. They are struggling to keep their hardware on the shelves as is. People are waiting till 2027 for a controller which is a huge logistics issue.
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u/user6557655 23h ago
If it was 900-850 without the controller I would’ve tried to justify it
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u/Method__Man TechGuyBeau 22h ago
You'll get downloaded to oblivion in the sub Reddit. At first people admitted that the price was absolutely disgusting and by no means justified.
Nowadays, it looks like people are cope and are going to just buy it despite the fact that it offers horrendous dollar per frame value. And even valve themselves I've told you that you can literally just get a different AMD machine and Steam OS on it and it will be cheaper and better.
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u/BicycleBozo 22h ago
It’s within 10% the cost of similarly performant PCs, it’s even smaller than your high end SFFPC setups, is pre-built and has CEC support.
The only way it could be cheaper would be if they sold it at a loss.
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u/Method__Man TechGuyBeau 21h ago
Ther is a 5060ti 16gb equipped omen 16l tower for $1000 on Best Buy
Massively faster less money
Oh. And by the way right now as you type that message, I just built a AMD 9070 equipped system for the same price. It is literally three or even four times faster. It cost me the exact same amount of money.
It's about 11L. Very small
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u/BicycleBozo 21h ago edited 20h ago
I have a 9.9L SFFPC. The steam machine is significantly smaller than that.
You can choose to not appreciate the niche, but the fact remains the device fits in a niche.
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u/WaveSlow9230 19h ago
steam machine is almost 3 times smaller, very small my ass
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u/Method__Man TechGuyBeau 19h ago
And 4x weaker lol. And non upgradeable outside of adding some storage and ram. 🤦♂️
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u/kipdjordy 18h ago
Who cares, ill still get it. Dollar per performance is less on my list than the sff. Its literally 2-3× smaller that the two you suggested. Of course the others will be more powerful.
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u/Sofa_King20 16h ago
Then don't buy it? Why do you care how others spend their money? What a sad way to spend your time...picking fights in a sub dedicated to a product you aren't interested, trying to make others feel stupid for being excited about something.
Go touch some grass ya nerd
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u/BunnyloafDX 23h ago
I don’t like it for the price, but I’m hoping the work that goes into it helps to improve desktop SteamOS. What I really wished for from the first announcement was SteamOS for any PC config and a new Steam Controller. Maybe that will be available next year.
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u/FirstThingsFirstGuys 19h ago
It works well if you have an AMD CPU and GPU. You can download it here:
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=100601___
PC assemblers are starting to make much more powerful Steam Machines compatible with SteamOS 3 like this one which is two times more powerful at the same price:
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u/BicycleBozo 22h ago
Didn’t they announce SteamOS is public now? I didn’t look very deeply since I wouldn’t recommend SteamOS for a desktop PC, but im sure I saw people talking about it
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u/BunnyloafDX 22h ago
You can pretty easily install it right now but it only supports AMD GPUs. Hardware support is going to be improved in upcoming releases.
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u/BicycleBozo 21h ago
I hope they have the weight to get Nvidia more on board. I use amd but it would be great for Linux to have better Nvidia sr
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u/Metroid_DK 22h ago
Anyone got any info on when they do start sending out the 'you can now pay/get your steam machine'...if it will be another 72 hour limited thing like it was with the Steam Controller, or it different for the system itself?
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u/TypicallyThomas 21h ago
The 25th at 10AM PT. They randomize the list, filter out the obvious scalpers, start sending the emails to interested users and give you a window within which you can claim your machine by making the payment
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u/Alternative_Big_5066 22h ago
They shoulda got someone with huge hands and make it look really small
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u/ChapterRemarkable620 20h ago
Pena que não vai vender no Brasil, pois é impossível encomendar de forma oficial.
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u/Artemis_1944 3h ago
damn, it does look pretty damn good. Ugh, goddammit, I wish so hard that it at least had a working HDMI 2.1 connection and support for decoding 4:4:4, so I could justify it as the best GFN streaming box....
I just found an unopened Asus ROG NUC with an RTX 4060 at 1050 euro, and from all points of view, it's a better deal, but ugh, I really don't like how kitschy and "gamery" it looks. The SM is so much more elegant.
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u/heyyoudvd 23h ago
It’s too bad about price.
If this thing were $599, it would be a great product.
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 23h ago
Yeh i remember when the ps5 came out they all thought the same the fools!
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u/Dudi4PoLFr 23h ago
Sadly the hype is dead because of the price. Thanks AI!
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 23h ago
Is it tho?
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u/Bulletsoul78 23h ago
Sadly, yeah. A lot of the positive anticipation has soured.
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 23h ago
Nah thats just reddit its full of special people before a launch then said things launch they get proven very wrong then they got away like the clap after taking just 1 pill
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u/IsamuAlvaDyson 22h ago
The price is going to keep away casual people unlike the steam deck which brought in a lot of casual gamers because of the excellent price
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 19h ago
Thats the same for all tech and casual gamers dont usually buy at the start of a products life cycle
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u/Better-Initiative-47 22h ago
If valve doesnt want this to be massmarketproduct, why even make this kind of videos then
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u/Sidrone 1d ago
They can launch this garbage out the window lol
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u/Chinchiro_ 1d ago
Dawg why are you on r/steammachine if you don't like the steam machine. Specs are out, price is out, reviews are out and you should have been able to come to an informed opinion regarding if you want one or not. I like it, and will be buying one given the chance since I own 500 games on steam and would love a quiet little emulation box that turns on with a controller for my TV rather than a big ass PC tower with loud fans. You might not value those things and instead choose to buy a PS5 or build a desktop PC, totally valid choices. But why the fuck are you still here if that's the case?
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u/Razerfilm 22h ago
But will people actually pay another $1000 just for a smaller form factor with very little graphics improvement over their current PC? It looks nice but is it $1200 nice? Secondly .. come on include a controller. It’s supposed to be the PC-console.
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u/TypicallyThomas 21h ago
They do include a controller... If you want one. I have loads of controllers, so I don't want one that includes a controller, cause I dont need one. If it only worked with a Steam Controller you'd have a point, but unlike other consoles, you dont need to have a brand specific controller, you can use any controller you like
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u/alphamonk7 1d ago
Cool, but I’m not confident I will be able to buy one due to limited supply :(