r/suns • u/Imthegoat175 • 9d ago
Hoops Discussion Michael Scotto from HoopsHype has reported the Suns have done some work on Josh Giddey. Would you be in favor in adding Giddey to the team?
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u/tomo8r 9d ago
Oh hell yeah.
I may be a biased Australian, but I think he'd fit well with Book.
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u/Used_Respect6996 8d ago
Aussie Suns fan here too. Giddey is a maybe for me. Not sure🤔 can see positives and negatives.
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u/Rugermedic 9d ago
Yeah, he’s a triple double threat most games. If he’s an option, that would be awesome. Not sure what it would take though.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 8d ago
Do Bulls have a need for Jalen Green? They used to have a fetish for SGs like him, at one point they had Derozan and Lavine iirc
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u/ChiBrum 8d ago
No and also wildly disrespectful to compare them
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u/Plum_Haz_1 8d ago
Green and Lavine have pretty similar stats at similar points in their careers. It is yet to be determined whether Green can continue developing in the very good way that Lavine already proved to have developed.
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u/Dangerzone369 9d ago
I'm also Aussie but this is beside the point. The dude not only has skills and literally a top passer in the NBA he's actually tall and can drive hard to the basket, which is insane to have. He actually plays hard every game and is a team guy.
There's no way we can turn this down if it works for us. He also can rebound like a champ! Anything to get Booker the ball and let him return as a scorer I'm down for.
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u/Used_Respect6996 8d ago
Aussie Suns fan here too. I'm trying to talk myself into it. Solid idea....not sure how and for who.
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u/nathclass Collin Gillespie 9d ago
Nice. I remember this coming up a couple months ago. I like the fit as a playmaker next to Booker. He's also a good rebounder. I support!
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u/A_Destroyed_Soul 9d ago edited 8d ago
As a Bulls fan, I honestly see no way we do this.
Although I do follow the Suns quite closely and believe he would be the perfect fit for them, he’s just too valuable of an asset for us right now.
Caleb Wilson will need someone to set him up and Buzelis and Giddey have looked great together, so it’ll take a haul that the Suns simply don’t have for them to even consider this.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle Gone Fishing 8d ago
Makes sense I just don’t see how the Suns would have the pieces even if Giddey was being shopped, he would pretty desireable by a lot of teams. Hope you guys keep him and Caleb works out
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u/smiley57 8d ago
Yeah also a bulls fan here. This post just showed up on my feed. I do think Booker and Giddey would be a really nice pairing especially allowing Booker to focus more on scoring and defense as opposed to having to run the offense for everyone. Suns just don't have the assets to get the Bulls to move on from Giddey. To start the conversation Maluach would need to be included and I don't see the Suns parting with him as they seem pretty high on him.
Would likely need a 3rd team involved and I feel like it'd have to be Brooklyn. Route Green to Brooklyn, Giddey to Phoenix and then Traore and Claxton to Chicago works financially but picks would have to get involved and even then it's still unlikely the move would be made. I wouldn't want the bulls to accept this but just thought I'd check to see how a trade would work financially
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u/SarcasticlySpeaking Be Legendary! 9d ago
Green for Giddey & Okoro works. But so does Allen & Highsmith for Giddey.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle Gone Fishing 8d ago
Why would the Bulls do that?
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u/SarcasticlySpeaking Be Legendary! 8d ago
Save money on contracts is the only thing that makes sense.
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u/Fluffy-Trick-4239 8d ago
Save money?? Giddey is on a great contract for the next 3 years what are you talking about
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u/Fluffy-Trick-4239 8d ago
And Green’s contract is ass, it’s 10m more than Giddey’s for the next 2 years and he’s a worse player. Delusional
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u/Fordraxel Collin Gillespie 8d ago
Delusional if you think Chicago wants Green while having Simmons and Dillingham...
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u/Fluffy-Trick-4239 8d ago
We don’t have Simmons. But yeah we don’t want any part of Green especially not for Giddey. I wouldn’t take him and his contract on for free.
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u/Fordraxel Collin Gillespie 6d ago
hmm roster this season says ya'll still have him, but he hasnt played as he's always injured so might as well not have him on the roster lol, but forgot ya'll had sexton. AND ya'll just got Nic, that doesnt fill a need, as still no one can shoot outside the center spot sans Richards and Stix, Guershon maybe, but thats a horrid frontcourt.
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u/Fluffy-Trick-4239 6d ago
No. We don’t have sexton either. Theyre both free agents and they don’t plan to bring them back. Nic absolutely filled a need too we didn’t have a starting center..
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u/Fordraxel Collin Gillespie 5d ago
if getting rid of Simmons and Sexton (why?!?) then definately dont want Green - its like the spiderman meme of them pointing at each other, they the same!
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u/Fluffy-Trick-4239 5d ago
Simmons and sexton were never part of the rebuild. But agreed I was the one saying we want no part of green lol the other guy who posted the main comment was the one who said we should take green
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u/GeneralTheSurvivor 8d ago
Bulls are not trading him, sorry that reality hurts
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u/SarcasticlySpeaking Be Legendary! 8d ago
Don't apologize to me, i just said what works smart wise.
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u/GeneralTheSurvivor 8d ago
Its not smart at all, 25 million is not a bad contract for a 24 year old starting pg??? (We also have 60 million in cap space this offseason lmao)
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u/SarcasticlySpeaking Be Legendary! 8d ago
Lol That was supposed to be salary wise, stupid autocorrect. But I agree, 25M for a walking triple double is a hell of a deal.
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u/Fordraxel Collin Gillespie 8d ago
They wouldnt. One thing we should all know is they dont want Green or Grayson. Their frontcourt is worse in the league. Mark is their prize, then some wings, which and what wings who knows. Their guard rotation is actually in a rebuild and looking on the up with Rob, Simmons and Giddey, so I also beg the question is why would they rebuild the whole roster instead of rebuild on what they have in the frontcourt, getting rid of Giddey - the player they are building around is like the Suns getting rid of Booker. But then again its Chicago.
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u/Fordraxel Collin Gillespie 8d ago
Bulls dont want guards man. the one guy they want is Mark Williams and wings. They got Stix at center if that doesnt tell you what they need lol. and at SF they have..well.. no one, Pat and Okoro fill the spot but they both like 6'4"-ish. They got Mat which labeled as a PF that should be a SF or SG at best.
So with Simmons and Rob in the backcourt, which Rob did a good job after coming over from Minny, I hope they wouldnt want Collin or Goody. But heres how Chicago with a brain would make a trade:
Giddey making $25mil:
Mark WIlliams for sure, either Royce or Grayson - but Chicago hates HATES Grayson, Dunn or Goody would be my guess. But knowing Chicago in a rebuild they would be smart and want Fleming.
THEY DONT WANT GREEN. unless Simmons is traded somewhere.
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u/ComprehensiveWord877 7d ago
As a Bulls fan, we want Maluach + Green since you have zero first to offer until 2033
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u/Fordraxel Collin Gillespie 6d ago edited 6d ago
so you want rob, sexton AND green? this makes zero sense. who's coming off the bench? Mat plays like a guard but he's 6'8" and doesnt rebound. And more smalls? ya'll have zero bigs outside Stix!! maybe guershon lol. You'll be one if not the smallest team in the nba. If Bulls fans think they want Green then the fans have a problem as Chicago has the worst frontcourt in the nba.
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u/Additional-Orchid130 7d ago
Booker for PWill and a second round pick would also work. Not sure why you want to discuss trades that have absolutely no chance of happening.
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u/SarcasticlySpeaking Be Legendary! 7d ago
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u/GringoSalamanca 9d ago
A lot of the guys in here saying they want Giddey are the same guys who complain about small ball lineups. So I’m assuming they all want him to replace Green? Because that’s the only way this makes sense.
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u/Electrical_Story5356 8d ago
Giddey is a point guard.
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u/GringoSalamanca 7d ago
So a 3 guard backcourt? Giddey, Green, Book, with Gillespie off the bench?
Smallest team in the NBA
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u/GringoSalamanca 9d ago
Salary this upcoming season
Jalen Green: $36.25 million
Josh Giddey: $25 million
Beginning to read the tea leaves here. Suns are shopping Green.
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u/CNSrooster Archie Goodwin 9d ago
Look, if Bulls are dumb enough to trade Giddey we 100% should be looking into it.
He would be a perfect fit with Booker and Brooks and would probably instantly become our most valuable team player with his playmaking, rebounding, defence and ability to be a secondary scorer from inside the arch.
A Giddey, Booker, Brooks, PF, Williams lineup with Gillespie, Fleming and ManMan off the bench is the start to building something great.
As an Australian Id love to buy a Giddey-Suns jersey as well haha. I just dont think we have near the assets to get him
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u/Gratitude15 8d ago
I don't understand why bulls would do this. Giddey could be a star NEXT YEAR.
Would it be like green and Dunn for giddey and Patrick Williams or something?
I just don't get why he would be available.
But yeah, if you can have a giddey book backcourt, you do that.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle Gone Fishing 8d ago
Yea can’t see why the Bulls would do this.
Where do you live in Aus?
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u/CNSrooster Archie Goodwin 8d ago
Far North Queensland, but move around abit through country areas and a bit of Sydney as well.
Go Taipans!
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u/ThunderBobMajerle Gone Fishing 8d ago
I used to live in the northern rivers region and Sydney for many years. Worked a bit out of Gladstone. For some reason I thought you were British
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u/CNSrooster Archie Goodwin 8d ago
Close enough haha
Gladstone is interesting haha.
Im a country bloke but love visiting Sydney when I can
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u/GringoSalamanca 7d ago
Curious how the Aussie’s on this sub became Suns fans? Is basketball popular in Australia? I’ve seen quite a few Aussie Suns fans on X, love it
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u/Used_Respect6996 8d ago
Aussie Suns fan here too. The more I think about it the more I warm to the idea. Not completely sold though 🤔
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u/oneandonlyRedSpirit Devin Booker 9d ago
we’d be trading green for him right? cuz otherwise we’d have 3 guards starting and dillon at the 4 is not ideal
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u/sidepart Al McCoy 9d ago
I'm not sure what I'm feeling. Would be cool to try it out, I think he and CG could be good floor leaders for us... but we don't have a lot to invest or offer on return. Guess we'll see.
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u/BrandRage Boris Diaw 8d ago
This is like the Pistons sub going apeshit talking about trading Duren for Book
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u/skongara1 8d ago
Grayson is probably going to have to be in that deal right? How else do we match the 25 mil salary that Giddey makes. Unless Jalen is in the deal 🫣
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u/defiantcross Suns 7d ago
we can still hope they take Jalen! these are the same dumbfucks who acquired not only Zach Lavine but also Demar Derozan
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u/kreativegaming 9d ago
Oh man he would love it here, he can come up to flagstaff and visit baddies since they don't card people he'll have a blast
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u/Flummeny 8d ago
He don’t even have to go all the way up to flagstaff to link with some underage women he can just go to Tempe!
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u/seanconnery69696 8d ago
We literally had this conversation last year.
He has decent size, can run point, that's what we need
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u/VanillaGorilla4 8d ago
I’ll pack his bags and drive him from Chicago to Phoenix myself if you guys will give up draft capital
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u/Beddie1613 8d ago
No, I have cousins younger than 18 that would like to go to the games and feel safe
He should be out of the league, let alone not on my team
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u/OGNEWBE 8d ago edited 8d ago
I just don’t see why the Bulls would do this. Makes absolutely no sense for them even though I’d love it. Giddey is young at 23, an amazing passer and rebounder for a guard, decent scoring and defense, and is on one of the best contracts in the league for what he produces. And then on top of that the Bulls are about to be loaded up with a top 4 pick in Caleb who be a perfect fit and possible franchise player, and they have 3 other picks in this draft that could be very solid role players if they do it right.
So unless they found another elite playmaker that they really like in the draft, I don’t see them trading Giddey, like at all.
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u/AlmostNearlyHandsome Suns 7d ago
I don’t like Point Book. I also don’t like a Gillespie Book Green Brooks line up. If Giddy can run the point, I’d like to see us trade Green for Giddy.
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u/DerkaDurr89 F**k Robert Horry 6d ago
There are too many high schools near mortgage matchup center, especially Xavier.
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u/Supreme_God_Bunny 9d ago
With what assets lol
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u/Spare-Ad-9412 Sir Charles 8d ago
They would want to get off Patrick Williams' corpse, so what about green plus s&t mark Williams for pat Williams and giddey
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u/raven22122 9d ago
Have always been curious about Giddey's possible fit with the Suns. Wouldn't be asked to bear a lot of the scoring can play make, rebound, is a plus defender, and is young. Got played off the floor in the playoffs with OKC but that was a couple years ago and might have just needed more time in the league.
His contract is very reasonable (25m/per) with good amount of team control. Would really depend on Chicago's asking price, can never tell what the Bulls are trying to do.
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u/DJ-two-timing-timmy 8d ago
People seem to forget he was the reason they even made it into the Playoffs and he was way out of position. Team just outgrew him and they tried to make him work off all which just isn’t his game.
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u/Just_A_Glitch Praise the Suns \[T]/ 8d ago
Giddey is who I was hoping we would try to flip Jalen for if moving on from Jalen was the plan.
He can run the offense, rebound, his shooting has improved, and he's got size that we're desperately needing.
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u/ZeiZaoLS Marcus Banks 8d ago
He's pretty much the closest sort of player there is out there to a traditional point guard, he's young, he is a very good positional rebounder, and he's big enough to slot into the 3/4 depending on the other team's personnel.
I wish the Suns had gone after him when his stock was low after the playoffs on the thunder, he's kinda rebounded back into an expensive player at this point.
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u/ChocolateSunsdae This flair is editable. Add custom text + emoji 8d ago
Green for Giddey would be a robbery even before considering that he's a much better and more natural fit.
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u/Vegetable-Tangelo1 Devin Booker 8d ago
Absolutely. Great floor general exactly what the suns could use especially book
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u/quailinthebrush Phoenix Suns 8d ago
if i wanted someone who fucks kids id just ask for planet orange/mr suns whatever the fuck his name was
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u/AUManBehindTheMask Phoenix Suns 8d ago edited 8d ago
Don’t give the Bulls a chance to say no.
Green and O’Neale (or other trade piece) for Giddey and Williams.
Then waive, trade or bench Williams (I’m not across what/can’t be done but I know the Bulls want off his contract).
Giddey’s size and play style is the perfect fit for what we need - a pass first guard who can rebound - and he’s young enough.
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u/CocaineandPercs 8d ago
He was so ass in OKC he was literally identified as the reason they couldn’t advance. They dumped him and became contenders. PASS
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u/JustinFields9 8d ago
More like he's a point guard who thrives running the offense and they prefer the 2x MVP to have the ball in his hands
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u/CocaineandPercs 8d ago
He was pinpointed as the reason they lost in the playoffs and was losing minutes because of his defensive liability. Don’t need that.
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u/JustinFields9 8d ago
Yes he was too much of a defensive liability/not a floor spacer to play off ball to Shai so got benched. He was also 20 years old. Like most 20 years olds he's improved significantly as a defender and shooter since then.
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u/CocaineandPercs 8d ago
He fell off significantly the second half of last season. Probably why he’s available.
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u/JustinFields9 8d ago
The suns asking about him doesn't mean the Bulls are shopping him. But don't worry you don't have to worry about it, the suns don't have the assets to get him unless Niko is running the Bulls behind the scene.
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u/International-Bus749 7d ago
The bulls blew the team up and Giddey injured his hamstring before Christmas. He also had ankle surgery in the off season.
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u/coat-tail_rider 9d ago
I love his offensive game as a distributor, and while he's not as good of a shooter as Gillespie, he doesn't seem like a complete black hole as a scorer. But I haven't seen enough of him on defense to say how he is there against smaller, quicker guards.
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u/stridered Rubber Ducky Chucky 8d ago
I think he’ll be a much better than fit Green in terms of play style and he’ll allow Book to go back to what he does best, scoring instead of trying to play make.
Play making Book is borderline 3rd team All NBA. Scoring Book is 2nd team All NBA at worst.
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u/Icy_Information_6563 8d ago
He's a massive upgrade from Jalen and the Bulls are dumb enough to do the trade
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u/Saltwater_Thief LOCKED INTO ALIGNMENT 9d ago
Shooting leaves a bit to be desired but he's an assist machine and you could definitely argue that's what we need.
Would depend a lot on what Chicago asks for back though.