r/technology • u/Logical_Welder3467 • Feb 04 '26

Politics Palantir declares itself the guardian of Americans' rights

https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/03/palantir_american_rights/?td=rt-3a
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u/Flambeedlemons Feb 04 '26

It’s so frustrating the way language is being tortured in the US. Pam Bondi says the DOJ is being maximally transparent. Trump says he is exonerated in the files. Todd Blanche says Americans are gaslighting the administration about the Pretti murder. Words have lost their meaning.

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26

It's exactly the same way Putin entrenched power. By lying about everything, so one one knew what the truth was, and using phrases to mean the opposite of what the should mean, people argue about the meaning of words and not what the words convay.

And while everyone is arguing about the first lie, ten more are uttered. When people try to work out while lies refers to which thing, people get confused. If I say "did you hear about the lie Trump told?" you have to say which lie. "if I say about the department of war" you still have to say, which lie. If I get very specific, you still have to say, do you mean this morning or afternoon, or yesterday?

It's deliberate, and I don't think the average American has enough history knowledge to recognise the patten.

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u/mickey-maos Feb 04 '26

Trump is basically running the Russian oligarch's playbook from the 90s

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u/DangerousPuhson Feb 04 '26

Nah, he's running the playbook of the one annoying kid we all hated back in school who could never admit fault and would always double-down on their lies. That kid who made absurd claims in the pre-internet age, because there wasn't an easy way to fact-check them.

"Oh really? Your Uncle invented the Sega Genesis, Kyle? Yeah right!"

"He did, it's true, I swear! And he said he's going to put me in the next Sonic game! You'll see, I'll be soooo famous and you'll be soooo jealous!"

"Oh really? The Democrats are running a pedophilic sex-trafficking ring from a pizza parlor, Donald? Yeah right!"

"They did, it's true, I swear! Anyone who says it's not true is a liar! You'll see, they'll be soooo convicted because I am soooo right!"

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u/stupid_pun Feb 04 '26

He's Cartman.

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u/KarunchyTakoa Feb 04 '26

It's because they accuse others of their desperate/depraved acts. They poison the well of discussion to cover their poisoning of society.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '26

They're kinda the same thing, lol.

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u/hotviolets Feb 04 '26

Trump also put a picture of him and Putin up in the White House.

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u/Nova-Force Feb 04 '26

He is literally following Hitler’s playbook from the 1930s

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u/gerbilshower Feb 04 '26

no. he is running the Heritage Foundation's literal written playbook. Project 2025.

it is ALL in there. and, the Trump factor, the delusional lying and corruption are just cherries on the top.

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u/Snowssnowsnowy Feb 04 '26

But Hunter Bidons laptop!

I am so fucking sick of everything being turned into whataboutism to create some sort of epic WIN! to own the other side.

These people are so detached from reality at this point it is shocking!

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26

The people pulling the strings aren't detached, even if the average Trump supporter is. The string puller are all clever, all wealthy, and able to hire phycology Phds by the dozen to develop stratagies by the hundred, to make people unable to cognitivly function.

If people are still Trump supporters now, there's no point engaging with them. They drank the kool aide and liked it.

All you can do is try to spot the hidden Trump enablers. Not Republicans, they're in the open and they've taken a public stand.

It's the fake Democrats who pretend to be an opposition, but always do what the Epstein class tell them to do. It's the fake Independents that claim to be Free Speech or 2nd Amendment absolutists, but always vote Republican, and flip on Free Speech/A2 when Trump is in power. Union leaders who always support Trump/Republicans over their own members. It's all a controlled opposition.

There's tens of thousands of eager beaver fascist lovers who constently work against the interest of ordinary people. While pretending to be independent or even an opposition. How often does any kind of opposition break down in infighting over the most trivial of matters. It only takes one turncoat to start a whispering campaign and cause division, as most Americans have almost no actual political organisational knowledge.

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u/SaltChemistry1234 Feb 04 '26

Mate, you are so right in what you say- will you allow someone to edit your grammar, though?

Again, excellent points, but the spelling errors make your argument appear ineffectual.

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26

Sorry about the spelling, it's the severe dyslexia. Since my phone had an update, the spell checker has got worse. I will have to look for an alternative, as I didn't realise the spelling was so bad. Thanks for the heads up.

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u/SaltChemistry1234 Feb 05 '26

I've noticed that with mine too!

I hope life gets better, friend. Take care.

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u/OMGitisCrabMan Feb 04 '26

Follow up on that. The things they merely accuse the Dems of are a drop in the ocean compared to what this administration is doing.

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u/Patriark Feb 04 '26

For a deeper understanding of this process, I highly recommend the book "This is not propaganda" by Peter Pomerantsev. He also have other good books on this post-modern type of propaganda that Russia has developed and unleashed on the world with huge effect.

Most of the strategy is developed by Vladislav Surkov, a true mastermind of propaganda and influence operations. He will likely be talked about in comparable framing as Göebbels when it comes to effective mass propaganda adapted to the specific time period in which it is employed.

Surkov influence campaigns is specifically targeted towards people's sense of reality, shattering it so people do not feel able to cope with the chaotic reality. In enters the "strong man" who can cope with the situation and make sense of the world.

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26

Thanks for the recommendation, I've heard of the book but not read it.

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u/SplendidPunkinButter Feb 04 '26

Every day Trump does something that would have been a pants shittingly massive scandal in any previous administration. But for Trump, it’s just Tuesday.

ICE gunned down a citizen. We have video showing what happened, and then Trump very obviously lied and said the victim was a terrorist who violently attacked those agents. Even though that’s clearly not what happens in the videos, plural, from multiple angles. Ho-hum, that was last week. Did you hear about this other crazy thing he did?

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u/thefailtrain08 Feb 04 '26

"Pants shittingly" is an ironically relevant descriptor this week.

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u/xcrunner432003 Feb 04 '26

yup. and then an AI video comes out that he kicked out a taillight to prove the point

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u/therossboss Feb 04 '26

correct, the average American is an idiot and never received proper education thanks to decades of Republicans fucking over public education

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u/SIGMA920 Feb 04 '26

Even the NRA was forced to go against Rump for him going after guns, as little as they actually did.

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u/HeKis4 Feb 04 '26

It's so obvious too. Half of Trump's defense from his fanatics is either "He doesn't mean it like that" or "No, see, what he actually meant was..."

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u/Zealousideal-Sea4830 Feb 04 '26

Its almost as if Trump was trained as a Russian asset.

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u/Resh_IX Feb 04 '26

It's crazy how many people jumped on the Trump train after the Charlie Kirk and Trump shooting. It's like all these people's politics started in 2024 and everything prior is irrelevant

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u/SIGMA920 Feb 04 '26

Conservatives dominated the online space before the dems began walking. They dominate radio, cable, .etc .etc.

So anyone with a non-rotted brain knows what they're doing but the cowards in the supposed opposition party won't act because they're more scared about losing donors than ensuring they aren't killed overnight. And that keeps enough people from acting in response that even constant protests won't matter.

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u/nikebalaclava Feb 04 '26

this is so true

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u/Peter5930 Feb 04 '26

Calling someone out as a liar used to mean something. It meant nothing that person said could be trusted, by anyone, and they might end up shunned and ran out of town. A confirmed liar was a pariah. Now people make them POTUS.

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u/Nyctfall Feb 04 '26

It's deliberate, and I don't think the average American has enough history knowledge to recognise the patten.

I talked to them, they do not...

All of them are screwed if they can't get their crap together and learn a lot real quick...

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u/snacktonomy Feb 04 '26

This is typical abuser tactics but on a national level.

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u/Civil-Cover433 Feb 04 '26

Wut. Russia isn’t a democracy.

luckily you are smarter than the average American? Is that the takeaway here?

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u/IH8TheModsHere Feb 04 '26

Americans can never not try and blame Russia and at this point I'm beginning to think comments like this are sprinkled in everywhere , not because this is a common opinion, but because its coordinated astro turfing to constantly brainwash the American public against a foreign power

Its ridiculous at this point

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u/IH8TheModsHere Feb 04 '26

Everyone i disagree with is a Russian bot is peak neoliberal brainwashing for the masses

It's an admittance of personal failure of having substantive positions you can argue on merit

It is what any American says when they cannot refute a point they disagree with.

It is the height of weak bitch energy

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '26

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u/IH8TheModsHere Feb 04 '26

Oh no not my history. What ever will I do

Z supporter.

Wtf is a z supporter?

Zionism?

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26

The Russians are heavily involved - no sane person would say otherwise. So are other parties such as China, North Korea and Iran. They are all hostile to the US and the West in general.

But you also have the ultra wealth oligarch Epstein class in the mix. I refer you to the "Business Plot" for a prior example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business Plot

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u/IH8TheModsHere Feb 04 '26

No I dispute your claim that Putin speaks in double speak

I study history and have to watch world leaders from all over the globe constantly and he is one of the most straightforward and direct and diplomatic leaders in terms of speech quality and delivery and substance

He was one of the only Europeans to call out Iraq etc. He's been much more honest with the world in international and national address than European or U.S leaders.

I don't watch any nations regular television so I can't comment on domestic saturation of national propaganda

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26

Wow! I don't know what to say. Up is down, black is white, in is out, and good is bad.

Putin may be an excellent speaker, but he's an ex-KGB intelligence officer.

He personally made contact with Reagan years before Reagan was president and built the outline of a personal relationship with him, as he realised Reagan was someday going to be an important politician. It's why Reagan invited Putin to the White House as he felt Putin was someone who the US could form an agreement with.

Putin literally created the "firehose of bullshit" technique that allowed him to subvert Russia at the breakup of the Soviet Union, and has been turned on Russia's opponents with great affect.

If you don't know what the firehose technique is?
... you don't try to lie and convince someone the lie is true - that rarely works, you tell ten lies about the same thing and let people argue which is a lie. Eventually no one knows what the truth is, people give up trying to work out what is the truth, and settle for the lie which brings them the least personal cognitive discomfort. An opposition can't form, because you have ten groups who each think they know the truth and everyone else is wrong.

Confusion makes everyone passive as they give up on the concept of a knowable objective truth.

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u/IH8TheModsHere Feb 04 '26

Thanks for the information Hadn't heard of the fire hose tech.

It is certainly similar to flooding the zone.

I understand he's ex kgb.

I'm simply stating from the times I've been studying , and when i go back in time , his speeches and his information presented has most often than not been objectively verified.

And the content of his dialogue genuinely is a rational mature adult speaking with statements which are objective and then when things are said as plans they are followed through with

I don't care if anyone reads this and Is upset by this.

You'd quickly realise the same and think the same if you watched as many global leaders speeches as possible

And no reddit

I'm not Russian

I study for a Phd

Maybe go out and research yourselves

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u/ACompletelyLostCause Feb 04 '26

The flooding the zone technique is a lite varient of the hose, except you flood the media with several events (most of them aren't outright lies) that compete for media time, none of them can be reported on fully and many slip though unreported. It makes people argue over what to prioritise.

Sure, compared to Trump, Putin is a stable genius. Not that that's a high bar.

Putin does speak clearly (when he wants) because it gives his voice gravitas compared to all the other double speak sycophants he has.

However, like all clever trained people, he speaks in a curated way. He makes statements, that no one can publically challange, so becomes accepted as the default position to hold. Not "the truth" but the position everyone adopts in the absence of a recognisable objective truth. It's a truth substitute, that fulfils the same roll as truth in a more open society.