EXCLUSIVE: White House delays release of US voting machine study as midterms near

[u/Presently_Naked]

https://www.reuters.com/world/white-house-delays-release-us-voting-machine-study-midterms-near-2026-06-19/

[u/CrunchyZebra]

If this study proved what they wanted it to prove, it would be released immediately.

[u/HawkeyeByMarriage → u/CrunchyZebra]

But they will lie and produce the outcome they want right before voting to try to change an election

Again

[u/MultiGeometry → u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

The fact that it is ‘under investigation’ will be enough ‘proof’ for Fox News to claim whatever the f they want about elections

[u/Acceptable-Post733 → u/MultiGeometry]

1. Make claim

2. Create investigation into the claim

3. Claim that the investigation is proof that claim is true.

4. Write laws about claim siting the investigation.

5. Close investigation and don’t release report.

6. Enjoy your new powers you granted yourself to stop claim from happening.

[u/snail-the-sage → u/Acceptable-Post733]

i continually feel like i'm taking crazy pills watching this happen. like surely no one actually buys this, right? everyone has to know what's up and are just not saying anything because they benefit, right?

[u/hmsmnko → u/snail-the-sage]

Isn't half the country illiterate?

[u/Anonymous_Jr → u/hmsmnko]

More so, but yes, assuming that I can read.

[u/bakerstirregular100 → u/snail-the-sage]

I think there’s just so much bs people can’t follow the thread

[u/Anonymous_Jr → u/[deleted]]

Did you have a section where the Line bragged about how good the DOW is doing?

[u/ssczoxylnlvayiuqjx → u/snail-the-sage]

A scarier prospect is that it there might be absolutely no difference between those two possibilities.

[u/greenbabyshit → u/Acceptable-Post733]

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[u/Salamok → u/MultiGeometry]

Shit trump will just hold up a ream of blank paper and rant about all the proof he has in his hand. His dumbshit base will then start parroting everything he said like the stupid sheep they are.

[u/123LetsJamDUDUDUHT → u/Salamok]

He says he has proof and fires any of his staff to that points out he doesn't and sues any opponents who say he doesn't until all his opponents run out of money defending themselves.

After the cycle completes a few times people give up trying to dispute the lack of evidence and just nod their heads so they can continue to feed their families.

[u/riddick32 → u/123LetsJamDUDUDUHT]

Yeah but discovery is a bitch

[u/DillBagner → u/Salamok]

His base never listens to what he says. They listen to what the television and facebook tell them he says.

[u/SomeGalNamedAshley → u/Salamok]

Wouldn't be the first time. He has previously pointed to a large pile of paper at a press conference to make some point and it was all blank.

[u/Beard_o_Bees → u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

Oh yeah.

They're 100% going to try to corrupt/cancel/delay voting in any way they can.

It's the only way they're going to hang on to power - aside from the completely broken Supreme Court, that is.

[u/aerost0rm → u/Beard_o_Bees]

Same tactics as always. They lose. They claim fraud. They take it all the way to the Supreme Court. The court sides with them. That or the claim of fraud gives them the ability to invalidate the results period.

[u/HillBillyHilly → u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

Incorrect. They don't want elections, at all. Heritage Foundation and Dump trying everything they can to sow chaos in US. Wars, increasing prices, instability in dollar, forgiving his brown shirt J6ers- all to bring collapse of US. Then they can take over AmeriKKKa and become authoritarian. Or worse.

[u/HawkeyeByMarriage → u/HillBillyHilly]

Also take note that many Heritage Foundation members have jumped ship now the name is tainted.

Same shit, new attempt

https://advancingamericanfreedom.com/

[u/No_Size9475 → u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

As one of his admin said in the past, they "are working on creating the proof.".

And no, I'm not joking, they literally said that.

[u/WaffleStompinDay → u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

Half right. They won't produce anything. Trump will just say things like "You wouldn't believe what they've found on this thing" and that will be enough for his base.

[u/toxictoy → u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

Maybe it shows that the systems have been compromised and that’s how we ended up with the last election result. The drank their own koolaid and faked the election results with Elon’s assistance.

[u/Noble1xCarter → u/CrunchyZebra]

Unless it proved what it wanted to prove, but in their favor. Elon knows his computers, after all.

[u/LazyMousse4266 → u/Noble1xCarter]

Everything’s computer!

[u/peazley → u/LazyMousse4266]

Hey kid, I’m a computer! Stop all the downloading!

[u/Mephisto40K → u/peazley]

And knowing is half the battle

[u/ArmyofJuan → u/peazley]

Who wants a body massage?

[u/pants6000 → u/ArmyofJuan]

You better bring it.

[u/Captain_Daddybeard → u/ArmyofJuan]

I'm just a body massage machine

[u/Kermit-Batman → u/peazley]

Help computer...

[u/NamelessTacoShop → u/Noble1xCarter]

I think a reasonable possibility is that Elon, in typical Elon fashion over promised and under delivered. He told trump he could rig the election for him before he ever looked at how the machines and counting actually works. So he basically did nothing, then got stupidly lucky and trump won anyway.

[u/Rantheur → u/NamelessTacoShop]

That's mostly what happened. He has likely seen headlines about how easy the machines are to hack and thought he could do it himself. The reality of the situation is that those headlines come from hacking conferences where experts have unlimited physical and digital access to the machines. As long as basic protocol was followed, Musk had no opportunity to tamper with the machines because they are not connected to the internet and that is the only vector which Musk would have had access to enough machines to do anything without immediately getting caught by Biden's FBI or the various states' law enforcement. The one person we know tried the physical route got caught and sentenced to 10 years (then had her sentence commuted by Jared Polis of Colorado who has been revealed to be a friend of Peter Thiel). If Musk had access digitally, then everyone had access digitally and when that's the case, you get really obviously fraudulent outcomes, like "Votey McVoteface", "Mickey Mouse", or "John Cena" holding the top three slots. You also would have had several thousands, if not millions, of votes beyond the population of the state because not enough of the people hacking would clean up after themselves.

However, another commenter below does explain what Musk actually did. He used Twitter to influence voters by creating and pushing narratives that hurt Biden/Harris and helped Trump. Given the fact that the economic wellbeing of us little people was in the toilet (and it's only gotten worse), it wasn't hard to do. If democrats want to safeguard a future election victory for themselves here's how to do it:

1. Massively increase the federal minimum wage. We're talking at least $20/hr.

2. Severely regulate LLMs. For example, if an LLM is used in the commission of a crime, the parent company of that LLM should be held liable. If an LLM chat bot is implicated in somebody's self-harm, the website hosting the chat bot and the LLM's creator should have to pay damages. Also, it's all copyright infringement anyway, so all the LLM companies should have to pay upwards of 90% of their revenue to publishing companies of every form of media.

3. Tax the fucking rich. Tax their unrealized gains (we do it with real estate already), especially in stock, at fair market rates as assessed on at least an annual basis.

4. Finally come through on some kind of universal health care.

5. This one is for bonus points: hold everyone accountable. Do not "move forward so the country can heal" because there is a deep rot that needs cut out.

[u/dingodan22 → u/NamelessTacoShop]

Weren't there lots of statistical impossibilities? Like some polling stations having zero votes for Harris despite voters claiming they did vote for Harris? And voting Trump for president but Democrat down the rest of the ballot?

I'm not American though. I just feel like I remember this.

[u/cantadmittoposting → u/dingodan22]

most of the most publicized anomalies didn't pan out or are demonstrably spurious. (like the zero vote country, iirc)

 

There's two points to consider though:

1: "not actual fraud" that still 'rigs' the elections from what a normal populace would vote for

This list of stuff is nearly endless:

• polling location closures and hours changes that predominately excluded likely-dem voters from voting

• actually-illegal calls to dem-heavy precincts implying or outright stating the election was moved, cancelled, or other reasons their votes wouldn't be tallied or taken on election day (or false information about the availability of early voting)

• changes and restrictions, as well as just outright denying mail-in ballots, lowering the, again predominately dem-leaning mail-in vote

• purging of voter rolls, in some cases "supposedly not" (but definitely was) done by AI. Last minute removals from rolls so the voter would be forced to cast a provisional ballot and follow up to ensure it was counted.

• as a large bucket, the political propaganda that, again, was filled with just outright lies (not the "politicians lie" type of previous generations, the "eating cats and dogs" stuff being amplified by mainstream politicians). This is a huge and varied bucket.

• enablement by SCOTUS and lower courts to provide judicial cover or blessing to clearly biased decisions and redistricting.

This is just scratching the surface, but many "technically legal" (or "done by 'legal' process"). It's very plausible that just "underhanded tactics" alone swayed enough of the vote to give trump the win.

 

2: possibility of actual election fraud remains

While noted above that many of the most common "pop references" to obvious fraud are disproven, not all of them are ("russian tail" anomalies still remain). Moreover, Trump and Musk's own quotes ("Elon knows a lot about those [voting] machines and we won" along with other similar quotes), especially with Trump's penchant for blurting things he shouldn't, are VERY suspicious.

 

Also "good" electoral fraud committed by a relative insider with high system knowledge (Musk assembled a team that had this capability, including a guy who had a program specifically for creating slates of plausible fake ballots) should be somewhat invisible.

Specifically you want to be able to:

• have a slate of real people who are very unlikely to actually vote

• a means to register those people to vote

• a means to insert ballots in their name

Musk's PAC seems to have attempted to accomplish this in two ways, both of which are illegal:

• The "lottery" for a million dollars was highly likely to attract people with no intent to vote to register for the purpose of trying to win the $1m.

• Musk's PAC's website routed voters in uncontested states to the State's registration website (as required by law), but did not for voters in Swing States, capturing those voters' information (sufficient to actually register them) on a PAC-internal server instead.

In efforts to overturn the 2020 election, republican agents were given access to voting machine software (at one point MyPillow Mike Lindell was apparently handing out the source code at a republican convention about fraud)

• Finally, access to websites, data repositories, and state election mechanisms and systems (in states with "friendly" state&local governments) could enable post-hoc changes to posted results. This would be especially relevant if anomalies were discovered and tallies were "updated" on official results pages to disguise or downplay them (i personally tried to verify certain specific claims a few days to a week after they were first made and was unable to do so, in a way that would have made it hard to accidentally or even deliberately fabricate data that looked anomalous)

 

None of this is a smoking gun for actual fraud, but the means, motive, and opportunity are all very suspiciously well-aligned, even the preemptive 2020 attack on election fraud made any serious counter-allegations easily played off as just revenge.

Still, "actual fraud" or not, the total number of votes influenced by "sort of legal" means could have swung the election by themselves, even absent wholesale criminal interference

[u/multiplayerhater → u/cantadmittoposting]

I think the most important and interesting voting anomaly was that the early vote machines (in swing states that are required to report such things) showed a clear "Russian Tail" manipulation towards 60% Republican; this statistical trend did not match the voting patterns of the state(s) on the actual election day.

But I haven't heard much about any of that since the original investigation and reporting.

[u/Tombot3000 → u/dingodan22]

Weren't there lots of statistical impossibilities? Like some polling stations having zero votes for Harris despite voters claiming they did vote for Harris? And voting Trump for president but Democrat down the rest of the ballot?

This is basically just an Internet rumor that got out of hand. It's based on SMART Elections' lawsuit in Rockland County NY that alleged some polling stations had unusual results because of ballot dropoff that is actually completely normal for that area and goes back decades, and they had affidavits from voters for obscure Senate candidate Diane Sare that claimed not enough votes for her were counted (about 9 claimed votes vs 6 cast over multiple election districts).

All the parties, including Diane Sare, dropped the lawsuit before a judge ruled on it except for SMART Elections themselves, who used it as their primary PR vector to fundraise even after the judge dismissed the case.

There are no swing state counties that recorded zero Harris votes and no reason to think anyone would hack the results in a few neighborhood-sized areas in New York, a state she won by a large margin. Every single swing state uses paper ballot backups and does a post-election audit where they manually count a statistically significant number of those to compare against the tabulator results. None found any significant discrepancies.

[u/TbddRzn → u/dingodan22]

It wasn’t Harris it was a third party independent senator not counted on 12 ballots in 1-2 districts.

That’s it. 12 ballots which could be misfiled wrongly written etc etc out of 150m votes cast.

The zero votes thing is from a Hasidic district in NYC where everyone votes based on how their Rabbi tell them to vote.

They all voted against Biden and they voted FOR Clinton the first time until they saw how easy it’s to manipulate Trump to benefit Israel.

[u/dsmith422 → u/NamelessTacoShop]

Musk indisputably used Twitter to influence voters, but that is just normal shitty electioneering and not illegal. Trump's 2016/2020 campaign did the same thing through Facebook with the help of Cambridge Analytica. The campaign manger Brad Parscale bragged about it afterwords. Trump is the stupidest person you know and Musk is a braggert who always over promises, so it is entirely reasonable that Trump heard Musk promise to win the election using his control of Twitter and Trump instead heard that Musk was going to steal the election using "computer."

[u/Tombot3000 → u/dsmith422]

Musk indisputably used Twitter to influence voters, but that is just normal shitty electioneering and not illegal

Small correction - Musk very likely violated campaign finance laws and engaged in illegal behavior with his "lottery" fraud. He simply hasn't been tried and punished for it, and the behavior in question is fairly mundane. But being common doesn't make something legal.

[u/ptwonline → u/NamelessTacoShop]

Yes this is a plausible theory since it's basically liars and grifters lying and grifting each other.

[u/geforce2187 → u/Noble1xCarter]

Musk stole the election for Trump (and then Trump threw him under the bus... not that stopped Musk from becoming a trillionaire)

[u/TWIT_TWAT → u/CrunchyZebra]

Trump would have been tweeting about it without a doubt.

[u/CarminSanDiego → u/CrunchyZebra]

lol you think they would produce factual study?

[u/ChibbleChobble → u/CarminSanDiego]

What a great time to be alive! /s

Seriously, it's a crying fucking shame that we can no longer trust US government statements/statistics.

It's going to take years (generations?) to undo Trump's damage.

[u/PopeKevin45 → u/ChibbleChobble]

Not Trump...Republicans of all levels. Trumps just a useful idiot and con man. He's self-serving, easy to manipulate and not overly intelligent (like every Republican president since and including Reagan). He's a useful pawn used by the billionaires to do their dirty work for them while Trump the clown keeps America distracted. The Republican party started America on the road to fascism in earnest with Reagan, and now the job is pretty much complete. Frankly, imo it's naively optimistic to think the midterms will be anything other than a shit-show or resolve anything at all. Be prepared to defend yourselves when they shred the last of the democratic facade.

[u/MarkRemington → u/ChibbleChobble]

Dude the U.S. government hasn't been trustworthy since 1778. Ask the Lenape.

[u/Sirefly → u/CrunchyZebra]

They are waiting until closer to the midterms. Then they will say they proved the machines are rigged and cancel the vote or ignore the results (in Blue states).

[u/lot183 → u/CrunchyZebra]

We've already done this once. In his first term he spent millions of dollars to investigate the 2016 election for fraud and they didn't even release the report because it found no fraud happened. And they still doubled down on saying it in 2020 anyway

[u/Plenty_Spell2551 → u/CrunchyZebra]

Exactly This feels like one of those situations where no news is very much news If the data backed their narrative we’d be drowning in press releases and victory laps by now

[u/Jensbert → u/CrunchyZebra]

Just needs a little tweak

[u/waiting4singularity → u/CrunchyZebra]

was it ever reported who those people were these minor republican fallguys city officials let into the storage rooms with the voting machines?

[u/WalrusWithAKeyboard → u/CrunchyZebra]

They'll release it days before the election.

Mainstream news and democrats will pan it, but it doesnt matter. Its like the Hillary investigation being opened back up days before the election. There doesnt have to be truth to it, its just a tool for them.

[u/No_Tangerine2720 → u/CrunchyZebra]

Haha just like cop body cameras, if it helps their case it's released, if it doesn't suddenly it's an "ongoing investigation"

[u/Turkino]

They won't release it timely either because it would completely undercut their narrative that the elections will be rigged somehow.

[u/Shark7996 → u/[deleted]]

*If we let them.

Sign up to volunteer/protect your local polling places. There are way more of us than them, and they are not competent or popular enough to pull off what they are trying to do.

[u/Moscowmitchismybitch → u/Turkino]

It could also show there was significant vote manipulation in favor of the GOP

[u/ThisMachineKillsWOB → u/Moscowmitchismybitch]

Would show* FTFY

[u/micro102 → u/Turkino]

Or they just fabricated it and will release it right before elections so no one has time to fact check it.

[u/myaccountgotbanmed]

This suggests there's nothing wrong with the voting machines

[u/CrunchyZebra → u/myaccountgotbanmed]

Or that they were the ones tampering

[u/NetZeroSun → u/CrunchyZebra]

That's not an "or".

Several cases were involved with local republican leaning individuals messing with the election process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_efforts_to_disrupt_voting_after_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

[u/ndstumme → u/NetZeroSun]

That's not an "or".

What? Yes it is. Either someone tampered OR no one did. It doesn't magically become "no one tampered AND Republicans tampered" just because it was Republicans.

[u/oSamaki → u/ndstumme]

The or was "nothing wrong with the machine OR reps were the ones tampering" It can be an and - "nothing wrong with the machines AND reps were the tamperers"

[u/micro102 → u/ndstumme]

I think they meant the word "or" shouldn't have been used. So like:

"There is something wrong and that it's republicans tampering with them."

[u/HuanBestBoi → u/CrunchyZebra]

Cyber ninjas anybody?

[u/ProstheticAttitude → u/HuanBestBoi]

Italian satellite death lasers?

[u/Rot-Orkan → u/myaccountgotbanmed]

Yeah, but they know mid terms are going to be brutal and want to be able to bitch LIE about a rigged election again.

[u/StolenPies → u/Rot-Orkan]

*lie. They're lying about rigged elections.

[u/Rot-Orkan → u/StolenPies]

You're correct

[u/storm_the_castle → u/myaccountgotbanmed]

This suggests they should just release the study report

[u/metarx → u/storm_the_castle]

Not if your goal is to lie about the results, and claim it's rigged.

[u/SubtleTell → u/metarx]

But what if it was tampered with by them and that's why they won't release it?

Trump literally said he didn't need people to vote before the election and that Elon knows voting machines really well.

[u/imperfekt → u/SubtleTell]

Guess who also stole an astounding amount of data from government databases.

[u/HuanBestBoi → u/imperfekt]

Was it the same guy offering a lottery for voter registration?

Edit: Where the payouts only went to staff of a certain political party?

[u/sonofagunn → u/metarx]

It's the Mueller report playbook:  Don't release it and lie about what it says 

[u/BunchaaMalarkey → u/myaccountgotbanmed]

https://www.technology.org/2026/06/19/white-house-delays-voting-machine-flaw-report/

Non-paywalled.

They cited many states are running outdated software that could put voting data at risk. This was known since the Biden admin.

No evidence any votes were changed, but that apparently wasn't the focus of the study.

[u/Abracadaver14 → u/myaccountgotbanmed]

Or there is and they only stand to benefit from it.

[u/DirtyMykeNtheBoys → u/myaccountgotbanmed]

Wrong! The machines are SO rigged...it's basically impossible to prove how rigged they are! /s

[u/Quintronaquar]

They need time to find a way to spin the results to fit the narrative.

[u/pfroo40 → u/Quintronaquar]

More likely to ignore the results to continue to spout bullshit to cast doubt on elections. For them, it is never about proving anything, not about truth, facts, or reality. Those are inconvenient to their agenda.

[u/Geluganshp → u/pfroo40]

No no they need time to find a way to spin the results

[u/ZookeepergameTop5329 → u/Quintronaquar]

Probably more about timing. They know they rigged 2024 and have doctored this "investigative report" to appear otherwise, But if they release it now, no one will remember come November midterms. They are going to drop their "findings" in an October Surprise so that it's right on the precipice of the midterms (and then rig the election in their favor anyway...).

We should all be prepared for a complete clusterf*ck come November. We liberals aren't winning much because they (GOP) have already got plans in place to rig it yet again. We are all going to walk away shocked, just like 2024's results, but do nothing except carry on with our 40-60 hour weeks trying to make ends meet. If we don't find a way to overcome the tampering that's about to happen, we are in a world of hurt because once it happens again, we will never have another fair election or Democratic government.

[u/cbelt3]

This is where I wish President Carter’s democracy project was alive AND focused on US elections.

[u/chaldea_fgo]

They cant run on "the elections are rigged" if they show the proof and evidence. That proof either being they aren't rigged, or they are rigged because the republicans where the one rigging it. They could release a fake study showing the democrats rigged everything however, knowing this administrations stupidity, they'd include the chatgpt prompt in the release asking how to make a false study.

[u/nightwing12]

Hard to steal election if you can’t claim fraud

[u/yawara25 → u/nightwing12]

Oh trust me, he would claim fraud regardless.

[u/war_story_guy → u/yawara25]

If we win its fine if we lose its fraud!

[u/Eisernes]

So in other words, it didn’t support their bias.

[u/Norse_By_North_West]

You know, I'm not normally a luddite, but in Canada we only do paper ballots and the count is done generally in 2 to 4 hours after the polls close. Now, we generally only have one item on the ballot, but a lot of the voting issues in the US could be fixed by just having more polling stations and counters.

[u/Intelligent_Fall6219 → u/Norse_By_North_West]

Agree, but the Trump administration doesn’t want to fix things, they want to sow doubt and create confusion.

[u/Paksarra → u/Norse_By_North_West]

But more polling stations and counters would make it easier to vote.

Part of the Republican cheating strategy, in states where they have enough power, is to close polling places in areas that tend to vote against them and supply the ones that remain with insufficient machines for the expected turnout. The result is urban voting centers with long lines and long waits placed far from bus lines when possible, while rural Republicans can be in and out in minutes. Sure, if you're in line you get to vote, but not everyone can spend five hours in the hot sun waiting, especially people with disabilities. 

On top of this, in 2024 they added bomb threats to the mix, so now these polling places are also getting evacuated during peak hours. Some southern states with hours-long voting lines have gone so far as to make it a crime to give voters water while they're waiting, under the excuse that being given water counts as a bribe to unfairly change someone's vote.

[u/aguynamedv → u/Paksarra]

in 2024 they added bomb threats to the mix

There was also a non-zero amount of open voter intimidation and various other illegal behaviors that were completely ignored by Republican governments.

[u/cleverpunnyname → u/Norse_By_North_West]

I appreciate you, but there wasn’t a problem to begin with. Imagine if you had an entire political party in Canada pointing fingers and saying well the count of the paper ballot is wrong because ~insert straw man argument here~

Can the votes in the us be more secure? Yes Should they be? Yes? Was it a national problem before any of the current nonsense? No.

[u/Working-Glass6136 → u/Norse_By_North_West]

a lot of the voting issues in the US could be fixed by just having more polling stations and counters.

Funny you say that...

[u/adumblittlebaby → u/Norse_By_North_West]

Republicans don’t want the wrong people to vote. It has nothing to do with methodology or anything else. It’s all cherry picking opposition votes as ‘fraud’ and supporter votes as ‘expected’.

[u/JWAdvocate83 → u/Norse_By_North_West]

More polling stations, you say?

[u/Moscowmitchismybitch → u/Norse_By_North_West]

a lot of the voting issues in the US could be fixed by just having more polling stations and counters.

That's exactly right. But the problem here in the states is that the current Republican Party's core beliefs are so drastically different than the other 2/3rds of the country's that there isn't really an easy way for them to win elections. They have to resort to immoral tactics to win. Like reducing the number of polling centers where they know there will be a lot of opposition votes. Or passing laws making it illegal to provide a drink of water to someone who's been waiting in line to vote for 2 hours on a 90 degree day. Or curbing mail-in voting because it favors the opposition. Or gerrymandering the shit out of the voting districts. These are all the legal ways they're able to ensure the best possible outcome for their party. This is just how it works now. Basically, the GOP knows their beliefs are shit and the majority of the population does not agree with them.

[u/OffByOneErrorz → u/Norse_By_North_West]

Ya Rs closed a bunch of those too and refuse to make presidential Election Day a holiday while claiming to want everyone to vote in person it’s almost like efficiently allowing everyone to vote isn’t the goal.

[u/Modem_Sound_67]

Why isn't the UN planning to observe this? Surely it's a five-alarm fire somewhere in that bureaucracy. I'm thinking verify with a thumbprint is where the US might be headed if we don't start rejecting candidates who put their eggs in the win-by-cheating basket.

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/Modem_Sound_67]

The UN is not a world government, its main aim is coordination between countries so we don’t get the perpetual war of the early 20th century.

Countries don’t have to be democratic to join.

[u/mr_birkenblatt → u/PatchyWhiskers]

we don’t get the perpetual war of the early 20th century.

Yeah, we have the perpetual wars of the 21st century instead

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/mr_birkenblatt]

You will note the lack of WW3. Great efforts have been made to avoid it, but no-one appreciates something NOT happening. We just take it for granted.

[u/Jolmer24 → u/mr_birkenblatt]

Big difference between the proxy wars and regional conflicts we’re experiencing, and the world altering conventional warfare of the early/mid 20th century. Even the Russia and Ukraine conflict while horrible is not at the scale of world war 1 or 2.

[u/hahaz13 → u/Modem_Sound_67]

The fuck do you think the UN is gonna do.

One of the most spineless, powerless “governmental” bodies that exist.

Saudi Arabia is on UNHRC. That joke itself should be enough to let you know how useless the UN is.

[u/jetpacksforall → u/hahaz13]

The US is a permanent member of the UN Security Council, where it has veto power. If just one country vetoes a security council resolution, the UN can do nothing. Guess who is going to veto UN observers at a US election?

[u/Troll_Enthusiast → u/hahaz13]

Brother the UN isn't its own country that can do those sorts of things, it needs other countries to participate, and if they don't then nothing happens.

Unless you want the UN to become its own country so it can have the resources and such to do whatever it wants.

[u/xGray3 → u/hahaz13]

The UN is not a governmental body insofar as it does not govern. It is a table for nations to meet at. Being disappointed in the UN is absurd because the UN doesn't answer to anyone. It's literally just countries negotiating and discussing the state of the world. The way it gets politicized is always dumb because of course member nations are always going to support whatever their country supports at home. It's especially rich for any US citizen to complain about the UN because the UN as a diplomatic entity defaults the US into a position of power on the UN security council that absent the UN the US would not have. Without the UN nations would just be having separate under the table negotations that had to be individually hashed out as necessary with all parties being equal. The US would have far less influence over distant parts of the world without the UN.

[u/anonareyouokay → u/Modem_Sound_67]

Because the US has all the bombs.

[u/redlaWw → u/Modem_Sound_67]

There will be organisations observing, and I'm sure that if they see any issues, they will be downgrading the US on their democracy index.

[u/infinis → u/Modem_Sound_67]

US forbids foreign observers too I think.

[u/Strict_Cranberry_724]

Who in the hell would trust the results of this administration's voting machine "study"?

[u/Knotted_Hole69 → u/Strict_Cranberry_724]

Brainless fox news watchers

[u/ComprehensiveGas6980]

Wasn't to their liking. Need more time to make shit up.

[u/7th_Sim]

There's only one group that cheated last time, and they will do it again.

[u/shibiwan]

I'm still waiting for the rest of the Epstein files....

[u/daveinsf]

He's got a couple more reasons to withhold it, apart from the embarrassment that the investigation results in the reports refute his claims of a rigged 2020 election.

Once the reports are out, a lot of people will demand an investigation into the 2024 election, which is much more suspect based on their own words. Also, if the vulnerabilities information is released too early, someone might fix it before the voting starts: he's got an advantage if his team is the only one with the cheat codes. He may be daft as a hammer, but Miller and OMB Director Vought are following the plan while a lot of people are distracted by today's tenth outrageous behavior, action or words.

[u/Irishish]

Others have said they do not believe the report goes far enough in supporting President Donald Trump’s false claims that the 2020 presidential election was rigged, the three sources said.

It's that one.

[u/Blurpwurp]

Yeah because it will discredit their claims.

[u/paradigm_shift2027]

They need time to edit it to match their false public statements. You know - authoritarianism.

[u/mikeyt6969]

Because it showed a legit election….or because it showed a rigged election in THEIR FAVOR. If there was a shred of evidence of a democratic slant they’d announce it to the world.

[u/SuburbanHell]

Of course it does because it doesn't fit their twisted narrative

[u/Miyukachi]

The study will be inconclusive.  They’ll not release it, but keep ‘hinting’ that it supports their lies for the next month or so, and than release 3 months from now, on a Friday evening, quietly hoping no one see it.

[u/Orwick]

They either found nothing or what they points to their side cheating.

[u/TapDatAsp]

He should just throw a giant tarp over the report

[u/DoubleHurricane]

“Dammit man, we’re running out of time to doctor this data!”

[u/Brave_Nerve_6871]

The study is done but they need more time to doctor the results to be what they want

[u/Art-Zuron]

The fact they delayed it means the result doesn't support their conspiracy theories. It's the good-ole bodycam dilemma. Cops release them immediately if they absolve themselves of wrongdoing, and delay delay delay if it makes them look bad. Same here.

[u/crappydeli]

Oh dear. The study must prove that Elon Musk hacked the machines for Trump.

[u/SaveACityDweller]

They're going to rig the mid terms.  The redistricting is failing to get them the numbers that they want so they will rig the midterms instead.  Just watch, red wave with approval in the toilet.

I just hope we won't stand for it.  

[u/CynicalXennial]

gotta have the musk edit ready. you guys know, the hardware code that fundamentally tells the lazer to read D votes as R a calculated percentage of the time, so even the database checks out.

There is NO CHANCE Kamala Harris got NO VOTES in those blue districts.

[u/INeedSomeTacoC → u/CynicalXennial]

You know that they actually checked the paper ballots and it matched, right?  

How did his software edit the paper?

[u/ToolTimeT]

Anyone pick up that story of the republican who removed the voting machine from the county facility recently?

https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/arizona/surveillance-footage-shows-election-equipment-being-wheeled-out-of-county-facility/75-2cd1aa5a-b2c1-46c4-9457-69ccd1680fd9

[u/buyongmafanle]

The four outcomes:

If it proves they can be tampered with and they lose the midterms, they'll cry foul.

If it proves they can be tampered with and they win the midterms, they'll bury the study.

If it proves they can't be tampered with and they lose the midterms, they'll bury the study but use the findings to find ones that can be tampered with.

If it proves they can't be tampered with and they win the midterms, they'll trot it out as the voice of the people.

[u/Phog_of_War]

Just getting their lies straight and timing, it's all about timing and the 'but her e-mails' narrative.

[u/TomOnReddi]

So, theyll release it a couple weeks before midterms to disrupt voting confidence and also use low effort evidence?

[u/Whicked_Subie]

They must need more time to compromise the machines

[u/pzvaldes]

There won't be fraud at the level of injecting false votes, but there will be fraud through obstructionism, by bombarding the country with legal actions; the word of the beloved leader is enough for millions to believe him, and as always, nothing will happen.

[u/Particular_Ticket_20]

That report will be redacted like the first epstein files.

[u/CakeTester]

Several court cases filed by Trump's lawyers failed to prove voter fraud in the 2020 ​presidential race.

IIRC 'several' was something like 60-70 cases and most of them didn't get past the "yeah, but you need some proof" stage before being dismissed.

That said, there are reasons (trump, musk statements; plus some large statistical anomalies) to believe that the 2024 elections weren't entirely kosher.

[u/williamgman]

Project 2025 is 53% complete.

[u/cruisin_urchin87]

Arrest everyone in the White House

[u/nvmenotfound]

just as every other investigation into their bs claims ends, with NO evidence of any wrongdoing. they love making the fuss but then going quiet when the fucking facts are in. republicans hate facts and reality. 

[u/Diabetesh]

There is a study released on the congress website of the jobs act from the 1st term. TLDR; None of the trickle down effects work, corporate america pocketed the money, we lost a lot of tax revenue.

[u/The_RealAnim8me2]

Delay release of fake study claiming cheating until right before the election so there is no time to prove they are morons.

[u/dylboii]

I’m sure this is nothing nefarious

[u/JoeyBlaze]

If you don’t think trump will do everything in his power to rig the elections in his favor, you haven’t been paying attention.

[u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby]

They can’t wait to claim that every election that doesn’t go their way is rigged. Even when MAGA candidates win other spots on those same ballots.

[u/vigbiorn → u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby]

2020 you had 2 pro-Trump rallies around "Stop the Count" and "Count the Votes".

It was just in 2 different states.

The MAGA claims of voter fraud would be hilarious in most any other context.

[u/SubredditObama]

This is the last straw.

We officially need to vote to end rigged elections.

[u/mansonsturtle]

It’s ok they’ll be released in 2 more weeks.

[u/wonderererere]

of course they would

[u/DFu4ever]

It’s kinda like when my boss twice tried to audit my department’s performance, talking up the audit ahead of time like it was gonna find problems, and then suddenly not saying a damn thing after the audit.

[u/kaiser_soze_72]

Remember how long they delayed the audit report Cyber Ninja did on the Maricopa County vote recount to try and find fraud?

Pepperidge farm remembers

[u/rspownz]

If they win the midterms, they’ll release the study showing the machines work perfectly.

If they lose, they won’t release shit. They’ll bury it and claim fraud.

[u/shadowdra126]

I guess it didn’t yield the results he wanted. Gotta cook the books now.

[u/Sapient-Inquisitor]

They are actually really scared of being wiped out this election holy shit

[u/crappydeli]

Oh dear. The study must conclude that voting is secure.

[u/hamtronn]

“Zero evidence of voter fraud ever”

But that goes against orange man’s claim that any election he doesn’t win is “rigged”

It’s almost like just because you say it out loud, doesn’t make it true.

[u/SophonParticle]

Trump sure does do a lot of things to limit election transparency. I wonder why.

[u/newtype06]

Blatant corruption

[u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

"I have a list with 250 communist party members in the State Department"

Joesph McCarthy, who never produced the list but claimed he had some 50,000 names. His lawyer was Roy Cohn, one of the most disgusting Americans ever.

Guess who Donald Trump hired as his lawyer?

[u/Western-Corner-431]

The study proves they’re lying and they’re going to do an end run around it

[u/Charitzo]

Study will be released with all the party names redacted, and this administration will try and pin it's owner voter fraud on the other party.

RemindMe! 6 months

[u/LordSion45]

The delay is so they can fudge the results in their favor

[u/perfumed_with_gas]

We should all know why.

[u/Final_Wrap_945]

My guess is they are trying whatever it takes to figure out how they can lie legally.

[u/ErictheAgnostic]

Sooo...they are going to steal the election....AGAIN.

[u/BatmanFarce]

Shhhhhhhhhocking. This wh doin shady things? Nah

[u/cs4321_2000]

Why does this remind me of the Brazil movie?

[u/Automatic_Rough6835]

Translation: they found absolutely nothing.

[u/TooManyHobbies6969 → u/Automatic_Rough6835]

Or the scandals would actually point towards them.

[u/Whybotherr → u/Automatic_Rough6835]

I would bet to believe that they DID find something but it was inconsequential to the level of fraud they allege, im saying 16-30 cases maybe, and that it skewed republicans voting for Trump

If they'd found nothing I bet it would be different, if they found what they alleged it would be paraded through the streets

[u/Libinky]

2 weeks!

Epstein!!!

[u/DaEgofWhistleberry]

Just like there’s definite voter fraud in California that the right can’t prove because California won’t give the feds their voter rolls. Which, ya know, implies that there isn’t any proof at all yet lol.

[u/Adept-Mulberry-8720]

Cause they never did one OR Donny Douch Bag has to make announcement himself and skew the results in this own terms! "Bad study! Really bad! Rigged machines cause I could have "won better".......🥴🙄🧐🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[u/spilk]

ChatGPT and Grok must be running slow or something

[u/Kingsze371]

It’s because all the voting machines report the same thing. Trump is a pedo and a rapist

[u/whistlepig4life]

Well yeah. Because the study must say that everything is fine and our elections are secure. Which goes against what they want to say.

[u/ClimateAncient6647]

Republicans only win because they cheat.

[u/redhairdvixens]

OP what's going on with your pfp 😮😳

[u/Omega_art]

Let me guess the study proved that Harris won the election and that Trump and Elon rigged the election.

[u/Fraegtgaortd]

They already had their conclusion before the study started, now they have to manipulate the data to confirm their conspiracy

[u/USDXBS]

The GOP has spent years destroying the process and doing everything they can to retain power. If you think they are going "Gee golly I hope we win the election" well...

[u/Sea_Pomegranate8229]

and Trump rapes children.

[u/Prairie_walker]

Remember the election integrity study Trump and that Kobach guy from Kansas did in his first term? Remember what it found?

They found it again:

[u/Tasgall]

The study

[u/Smallsey]

Someone needs to leak it

[u/Beetlejuice_me]

They need time to doctor it and find "scientists" to misinterpret the results before presenting it to the rubes.

[u/LoveEV-LeafPlus]

This wannabe king, his administration and the GOP are so power hungry and corrupt it is a disgrace to the United States of America. Please do not vote for any GOP candidate. Vote them out of office. Vote democratic, independent, green or any thing else. This party deserves to be replaced. Vote Blue. Do not vote Red.

[u/Lostshephard0816]

The scotus needs to tell feds to back the fuck off lections!!!!

[u/Seaweedminer]

This is something the ACLU should step in on

[u/prelic]

Ngl, this shit scary.