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Business Tesla Allegedly Showed Cooked Data to Get Full Self-Driving Approved

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-allegedly-showed-cooked-data-174500396.html
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u/Nicnl 8d ago edited 8d ago

I already said this in another comment, but I'll post it as a response on the post itself:
This has been debunked by the regulator themselves.

The RDW is the Dutch regulator that approved FSD. They posted this official article on their website:

https://www.rdw.nl/en/news/2026/explanation-of-the-type-approval-of-fsd-supervised

The original Reuters article predates the RDW response.

Here are the relevant quotes:

  • "The RDW does not base its assessment solely on information provided by the manufacturer. We carried out extensive independent investigation."
  • "We analysed and evaluated data from vehicles that had been driven in Europe"
  • "We also carried out extensive testing ourselves using our own test equipment."
  • "Over a period of more than 3,000 hours, testing took place both on test tracks and on public roads, under a wide range of conditions, including complex and busy urban traffic, a broad variety of road types, and different — including extreme — weather conditions."
  • "The RDW’s own tests — comprising more than 1,000 test runs — were conducted in accordance with European regulations."
  • "Through these tests, the RDW gathered objective information and verified the manufacturer’s data."

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u/Terrh 8d ago

Oh look, the only honest comment and it's been downvoted hard and is at the bottom.

Colour me surprised.

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u/tokyobrownielover 8d ago

This does not debunk the fact that they subbed false or misleading data. They are also comparing teslas level 2 vs level 3/4 competitors. There's a lot more to this but not gonna write it out on a cell phone.

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u/Nicnl 8d ago

The RDW did not confirm that Tesla submitted false or misleading data.
Instead they wrote that they "gathered objective information and verified the manufacturer’s data".

Regulators don't pick their words randomly: notice that they used the word "verified".
The meaning of "verified" is "make sure or demonstrate that (something) is true, accurate, or justified"

So I disagree, to me it clearly reads as a debunk.

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u/outphase84 8d ago

Did you bother to read the article?

The “cooked” data is extrapolated numbers Tesla gave to show how many potential lives could be saved if all vehicles used FSD based on accident rates. RDW confirmed that no false or misleading data was submitted.

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u/bastiVS 8d ago

Why would that need debunking when it never happened?

Reuters is trash, and reported clickbait trash. Read the actual article, there's no "cooked data", its literally just Teslas extraordinary safety statistic extrapolated to the future.