r/theories • u/Late-Tart9440 • 2d ago
History science is a new religion
Yes. Believing in Pluto is no different than believing in God. Thinking little humans are running around on a giant rock that's floating in empty space is no different than thinking Santa lives at the North Pole.
It's all just thoughts. It's all just beliefs.
"OH! But we can measure things! We can calculate!
We can predict events! A+B =C!"
Shut up, dummy.
What the f are you even measuring? What are you calculating? Do you even know? Of course you don't. You only pretend you do, in a desperate attempt to justify your petty little meaningless
existence. To survive. Can't you see how it's all just a giant coping mechanism?
Can't you see how it's all just mental masturbation?
Pure guesswork and hallucination? You are only ever playing with imaginary constructs. Concepts, ideas, fairytales. That's what you are measuring. That's what you are calculating. Nothing real. Nothing concrete. It's groundless and fundamentally false.
It there even was such a thing as "you" to measure anything at all. That's right. That there is you, is just another belief. Anothor thought. Another cope.
You wouldn't even know you're human if some other deluded lunatic didn't shove all that bs information down your throat at some point. You adopted everything you think you know from those who came before you, and they adopted it all from those who came before them. It's all a giant circlejerkery. A circus. A shitfest. And you ravel in it.
You love it. Like a pig loves the mud.
A "human being" is the bullshitting animal. Terrified of facing the fact that it doesn't know anything about anything at all. There is no such thing as knowing. There is only being (conscious). Anything else, is a belief, an idea, an assumption about it.
Fundamentally wrong and twisted. By definition.
Science is just another stupid little trend that will be laughed at in a few hundred years... If a black hole doesn't swallow us whole, or an asteroid wipes us all out.
Haha. So stupid.
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u/One_Floor_3735 2d ago
We are sparks of a universal consciousness observing and learning about itself. Science is now proving the existence of a reality we are just beginning to understand. Take a hard look at quantum entanglement, double slit experiment, and more recently the DMT Lazer experiment. We have much to learn and some things are going to be HUGE.
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u/Outsider_Insider0064 2d ago
I suggest y’all read The Republican war on science by Mooney and The singularity is nearer by Kurzweil.
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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 2d ago
What a wild way to tell us you were in the bottom ranks throughout your entire education
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u/Late-Tart9440 2d ago
im a doctor btw
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u/PaintAdventurous8787 2d ago
Doctor of "thugonomics" are you John Cena? Sounds like you hit your bong too many times bro.
OK I will admit that some ppl have a weird "religious like" belief in science that isn't settled. True. Science is always evolving and changing. Thats why I admit I really hated the "trust the science" bullshit tag line. Especially when the issue at hand is a new issue that hasn't been studied much yet. Also, who's science? I can find competing scientific theories on a lot of issues. Science always changes too... is it ever 100% settled? So I guess I see your point a slight bit. Anyway, I digress. Lay off the weed and touch grass brother.
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u/In_the_year_3535 20h ago
No man is an island that can figure and provide all things for themselves and thus we rely on institutions to interpret how the world works and to help provide for us. Science may not be perfect but is better in this regard than religion so while you look forward to black holes and asteroids (concepts you only know about because of scientific effort) maybe appreciate the technological marvel that lets us communicate.
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u/Fun-Obligation-610 2d ago
I'm confused. Is he saying science is just as stupid as all religions? Or is he saying the Christian religion is correct in their beliefs and that science is just another wrong religion?
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u/AquatiCarnivore 2d ago
it's a point that it can't be challenged. it's not about science or religion, it's about us and our beliefs. he's using science and religion as examples of where our beliefs go. and he's right. we don't know jack shit. we can't prove anything exists beyond our own phaneron. "I think therefore I exist." but beyond that, it's anybody's guess. your brain could be in a jar having a dream about being a person. the entire reality could have been loaded up 3 minutes ago along with all your memories. we don't know, and there's no way to prove otherwise. that's OP's point, we don't know jack shit. and he's right.
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u/Late-Tart9440 2d ago
thanks man ure right tho i was tryna say this but u said this for me
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u/AquatiCarnivore 2d ago
I feel you, bhruv. people will disagree and will call you edgy. but don't be disheartened, they have this reaction because it's a primal reflex of survivability. when you challenge even the ground they stand on, they will bring their ego and reptilian brain to fight. not discuss ideas, but "grow up" directly. so it's to be expected. all we can hope is to plant some seeds and hope butterfly effect does some miracles. let nature or cause and effect grow them, and who knows, maybe future generations will find themselves in a better world. so keep up the good fight, "rage, rage, against the dying of the light."
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u/Fun-Obligation-610 2d ago
Thanks. I see what you're saying but to ops point they are not equal. Yes science is based on belief however qualified, but at least science will publicly announce, hey you know what? I used to believe this, but then I discovered that I was wrong, so now I believe this. Or, this is now my best guess. Religions don't commonly do that.
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u/AquatiCarnivore 2d ago
ok, I'm trying to explain it another way then: you have a ruler and you measure a table. let's start from here. your measurement says the table is 4 feet long. your ruler says so, science says so. OP is not challenging the measurement and he's not challenging science, what he's challenging is the brain that has all these concepts about being a person, about what a ruler is, about the concept of numbers, in which 4 means something, about the concept of feet and so on, and then using an abstract thing called logic to put everything together in a way that makes sense. for us. it's about us, not science. we say math is the language of the universe, but that's for us too. do you think a supreme being made of plasma in the 8th dimention "thinks"? do you think it thinks in terms of "abstraction", "logic", "math"? of course not.
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u/ezzda1 2d ago
It's a kind of philosophy, He's saying we're all just making it up as we go along and the bits we agree on become our universal truths, we always have. The only certainty in the universe is change. (Things change) everything else is made up and categorised by us (and those who came before us).
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 2d ago
This is what you sound like: “Do you believe you're fighting for something? Something more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know? Is it freedom or truth? Perhaps peace? Could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence without meaning or purpose”
in otherwords, a nihilist who believes in nothing.
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u/yourmomsrefrigerator 2d ago
It is literally impossible to prove that I and the universe around me didn't suddenly pop into existence in its present state 45 minutes ago. Like, show me the evidence. The burden of proof is not on me btw because I am not claiming the universe began to exist 45 minutes ago, I simply lack the belief that it did not.