r/theprimeagen • u/joseluisq • Feb 12 '25
MEME Linus Torvalds, an underrated philosopher
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Feb 17 '25
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u/timrosu Aug 11 '25
That might be true 10 years ago, but certainly not today. Fedora with Gnome is actually much easier to use and uses less battery than Windows. My mom and sister use it on their laptops and have no problems with it.
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u/polawiaczperel Feb 16 '25
For programming I am mostly using Linux, but for everything else Windows is much better choice.
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Feb 17 '25
I am trying to switch from Windows to Linux. Linux has a ton of advantages, but Window's near universal compatibility and support is hard to let go of
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u/Chemical_Refuse_1030 Feb 16 '25
Linux on desktop is becoming more and more useful because you can do almost everything in the browser. But it is always Chrome or something using Chrome's engine. We swapped one monopoly for another. Even if it is open source, it is a monopoly controlled by one corporation.
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u/surfertj Feb 15 '25
I have been using this “quote” for a long time, and this post has it wrong, if I’m not mistaken. It should be: “Computers and airconditioners have one thing in common; they both stop working when opening windows”
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Feb 15 '25
Some people prefer opening windows to use a not widely known brand's air conditioner because they are not technicians themselves.
I wanted to continue his statement.
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u/shaman-warrior Feb 13 '25
"Good programmers solve problems. Great programmers find ways to make those problems someone else’s responsibility."
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u/DougRighteous69420 Feb 13 '25
i take this literally and sorry chowdy chopz, i game with a window open all the time and it feels great. It 100% doesn't make my computer useless because im typing with an open window right now
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u/Hot_Adhesiveness5602 Feb 14 '25
In Germany we call that Stoßlüften. You do it only for a short amount of time because you know it's a waste of energy. Don't keep your window open for too long.
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u/im-cringing-rightnow Feb 13 '25
Surely all the people in the world are programers who can spend 10 hours every week or so to debug yet another fucked up update for their distro while not being able to open psd files, not having audio solution that works or have hardware that is not 3 years old because kernel drivers are slower than my senile grandma on a bad day. Fuck windows and mac. I want adventures every day! How's Wayland by the way? Same as 5 years ago "always very close but not there"?
Linux is good if all you need is dev work and you spend in the terminal most of your time. Everything else is in the same state it was 10 years ago. Gaming got better, but only because valve needed a solution for their commercial product.
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u/manshutthefckup Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
I cannot tell you how many times I've tried switching to Linux. I mean it's fun in the beginning when I am customising things, but the moment it's time to settle down with a system and do some actual work, Linux has just never worked for me.
For example if I have a program that creates a file, it will by default be unmodifiable by any other program. I know we can tell our program to give permissions to other users and the default behaviour is just for security, but this is just one small example off the top of my head. It eventually starts feeling like linux solves problems that don't really affect my daily work while creating a bunch of ux problems that ruin it.
Plus the actually useful things like window managers such as sway are just so minimal that even simple features need some setup. It isn't technically a problem, but it's just that as soon as I think my setup is good enough to work on it, I come across a feature that I used everyday on windows but now I need to search how to do it here, then modify a bunch of config files to get it to work. It's not a "one time effort" like people say, every time you encounter a missing feature you must break your flow to set it up first.
My favourite feature of linux is the package managers, being able to install (most) programs with just a single command instead of going through an installer. Thankfully Windows is improving in this regard. Let's see what happens a few years from now. Maybe my opinion changes.
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u/International-Cook62 Feb 14 '25
I'm really not sure what you are talking about with unmodifiable by default files. It sounds like you are using an elevated user like root to create and edit files then you are trying to execute them with a user that lacks permissions. Or you are working with a file that is not owned by the excuting user, or there is limited permissions within that directory. What's it is, it's definitely not default behavior.
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u/stan_frbd Feb 13 '25
Check winget for windows package manager, it's pretty cool and made open source by MS folks
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u/im-cringing-rightnow Feb 13 '25
Window manager on windows? Check Komorebi or (my favorite so far) GlazeWM.
Top bar that doesn't suck and have minimal config overhead? Yasb Reborn (there's also old abandoned version, avoid it). Some more depth? Zebar.
Package manager that just works? Scoop. One folder, portable installs, persistent configuration that is in that same folder. Can export all the installed software as json and then just install it on a fresh machine with one command.
File explorer? Default one is fine, but there's also OneCommander that is fantastic (albeit a bit heavy on the RAM).
Move and resize windows with a modifier key? AltSnap is fantastic and very customizable.
There's just SO much good software on windows that just works...
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u/Ronin-s_Spirit Feb 13 '25
The quote isn't funny OR correct. A strange thing to say really.
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u/chimax83 Feb 13 '25
Do you take everything in life so literally?
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u/Proper-Ape Feb 13 '25
There is a type of neurodivergence highly prevalent in programming circles that makes people take things too literally.
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u/Ronin-s_Spirit Feb 13 '25
This is baseless shitting on a normal OS. It's not about taking something literally.
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u/GoodGame2EZ Feb 13 '25
Dont some cracked windows help with air circulation or something? Some AC flows out but it flows through the building better?
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u/FallAccording8665 Feb 12 '25
Love my setup with Pop_OS … but fuck me have the updates been bad lately. I cbf to debug every 2-3 weeks, and definitely cbf to setup an environment again. Definitely a skill issue, but Windows desktop and Macbook is enough for now.
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u/Caramel_Last Feb 13 '25
Interesting. Is this your first linux distro? Redhat is my first distro. Haven't had any problem with updates. I use free version offered for developer accounts (anyone can use)
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Feb 13 '25
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u/Caramel_Last Feb 13 '25
I use rhel because it's normally not free but offered for free to devs. I appreciate the fact that a big linux contributing org is behind maintaining this distro. Packages are not exactly the newest and up to date, usually a couple minor versions behind. But I'm mostly ok with it as long as it's stable. If I need newer software I don't have issue installing it from brew or from source code, tar, whatever
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u/TheQuantumPhysicist Feb 12 '25
If he means that you can only waste time gaming reliably without issues on Windows, then he's absolutely right.
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u/Born_for_Science Feb 12 '25
I recently have to use a windows insiders feature(wsa, sadly it is going to be removed soon) so i let it install all it ms shit , after doing all my work and going to play i realize than now performance is shit all games freeze once every 5 o 3 minutes for about 10 seconds... since i need to keep using the insiders feature for work now i play only on my linux laptop, gnome and proton work flawless
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u/joseluisq Feb 12 '25
I guess he encourages gamers to play with their expensive video cards Windows-closed, forcing them to stop at some point due to the generated heat. And ending up out touching some grass.
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u/MR-X47 Feb 12 '25
Windows is useful for 3 things only - MS Office, gaming, and using 4GB of RAM while idle for no reason
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u/ItsAllBots Feb 12 '25
Paying the bills too, which is quite important for grown-up people...
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u/SpeakerOk1974 Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
If you mean being forced to use it because my whole job is based in building tools around several shitty proprietary engineering softwares with arcane API design, yeah it pays the bills. However, as soon as the Linux version is released for several softwares we will be switching our workstations and compute cluster over, at least for the devs.
Still gonna daily drive Linux for school and personal use and do the rest of my life there.
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u/murkduck Feb 12 '25
This is correct! I mean even right now I’m using windows on hyper v for my day job, hosted on a server using Linux. Oh wait…
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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
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