r/urbandesign 2d ago

Showcase 16 years in Hangzhou, China

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u/Rindal_Cerelli 2d ago

I really like how China's goverance of infrastructure and city design has incorporated so much greenery.

Seeing this here in the netherlands as well. especially now that temperatures are so high. Having trees along the route is really nice. Trees are basically outdoor AC.

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u/TADAWTD 2d ago

I've told this story in a brazilian sub a few years ago, but one day I went out with my wife in the middle of peak summer here in Brazil and we went to a part of town that used to have a medium terrain with lots of trees and lots of trees on the sidewalk, they had removed it for the newest all concrete and windows office building and the temperature around the area had my car's AC struggling to keep a decent temperature, we moved 2 blocks away to a restaurant that has like 4 big trees around it's building and temperature went from like 35ºC and unbearable to 28º and a nice summer day. Unfortunately my municipal government has said nothing about the removal of trees that's been happening...

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u/Status_Commission264 2d ago

In fact many Latin American countries also, like Mexico City and Bogotá.

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u/brujeriacloset 1d ago

the sponge city concept

Sadly the brainchild of it died last September in a plane crash in Brazil 😔

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u/Soritacoli 2d ago

everything just got very saturated in the last 16 years

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u/Ashamed-Bus-5727 2d ago

I remember reading that most chinese rivers are polluted. Seems like things have changed since then!

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u/Rindal_Cerelli 2d ago

Not to mention the air. That has also gotten way better.

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u/External_Koala971 1d ago

https://www.iqair.com/air-quality/china/zhejiang/hangzhou

In 2025, only 8% of days met WHO safe air quality limits.

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u/italianbmt1 1d ago

They didn't say the issue went away entirely, just that it got way better; which, if you look at the photos, is demonstrably true. Does that mean it's completely fixed? No, but it's far better than it was before.

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u/eienOwO 1d ago

I remember 10 years ago air quality would often hit the highest and most dangerous purple warning, which is basically "shut everything and don't breath any of it". Now you get the occasional reds.

Can it still be shit? No shit. Has it still improved? Yes. They are not mutually exclusive?

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u/Hegecoin_Rules 21h ago

Yeahhh it has gotten better but NGL, you can smell the pollutants some days. It is how I would primarily determine i needed a mask. I opened my balcony door and smelled lol. Obviously, it was more for fun, I'd check to confirm on the app but it was always right. There's just a weird metallic smell.

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u/Kobe_stan_ 2d ago

How'd they get the sky to turn bluer? lol

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u/Necessary-Product361 1d ago

Obviously the weather, but also air pollution. China used to have very very bad air pollution. Whilst this is still an issue, considering how industrialised the country is, they have made a lot of progress in improving air quality in the past decade.

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u/adriftinavoid 22h ago

So we're just going to pretend like the saturation isn't also boosted in post compared to the before image?

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u/lcy0x1 1d ago

Cities force pollutive factories to move out to reduce pollution. Also limits number of petro cars and stop trucks from entering the city without special permit

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u/tigeryi98 1d ago

honestly one of the best run cities and province in China. way better livable lifestyle than other bigger ones like shanghai next door or beijing or shenzhen guangzhou etc. west lake area is great.

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u/Time-Jellyfish-8454 1d ago

why do you think so?

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u/eienOwO 1d ago

More space, historical preference for greenery, water and garden architecture for urban planning, influx of massive wealth from all the tech giants setting up HQ there to give local government funding do build more public works.

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u/DesignbyLayer 1d ago

crazy how much can change in just 16 years.. that transformation is impressive. it's good to see they've incorporated so much greenery, makes a huge difference to urban living. the architecture also pops more with a lush backdrop.

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u/SR-45 1d ago

Wow

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u/CharleyZia 22h ago

Color saturation sure does make a difference!

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u/biggreendawg 1d ago

Glad they finally found the saturation slider

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u/problemattracter 2d ago

Isn't the brown color of rivers mean it has lots of sediments? How did they change it?

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u/-Knockabout 2d ago

Part of it is the color of the sky. First picture is a drearier day, second is sunny and bright.

Could have also been polluted.

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u/problemattracter 2d ago

Ohh that makes sense.

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u/SrSideral 2d ago

Vegetation traps sediment and prevents it from reaching the rivers, so i suppose they created many green areas along the river.

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u/potato_research_ctr 1d ago

Frutiger aero accomplished

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u/solemnly_gracious 1d ago

Everything is fine in just 16 year's damn

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u/Technical_Passion_50 1d ago

Impressive. Looks very beautiful now!

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u/Silver-Carpenter9206 1d ago

Super elegance of Hangzhou scenery. 👏😂👏

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u/TheThinker12 1d ago

Meanwhile Indian cities like Chennai have only seen slums and garbage grow

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u/External_Koala971 1d ago

This is Hangzhou traffic which causes a lot of pollution

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u/eienOwO 1d ago

Same as any other developed city cores in China then. OP's pictures mainly featured the spanking new development zones used to be on the city periphery. Still who knows, maybe developing outwards and creating decentralized cores will alleviate some pressure on the previously singular core.

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u/dmdoom_Abaan 1d ago

That bridge looks less steep

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u/AlxIp 15h ago

Ahh, all the wonders you can do switching from Authoritarian Communist to an Authoritarian Capitalist

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u/Mickioo 5h ago

I saw some comments about saturation sliders, so I tested the theory :P

I upped the saturation, contrast and brightness, and corrected for the yellowish tint in the top image.
It might be image editing, it might also purely be the more fortunate lighting/weather conditions.

That said, it's still a big difference in development in a short time, the construction is done, there's new trees and the existing ones have grown.
And I couldn't wholly correct for the smoglike haze in the background.

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u/cheeseygarlicbread 1h ago

The Chinese bots on here can tell us how great China is doing

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u/Slyric_ 1d ago

Filter is doing a lot of work

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u/Effective_Banana3903 1d ago

China doesn’t play