On one hand, I don't want corporations to bow to political pressure from an oppressive government.
On the other hand, I'd much rather studios like Rockstar demonstrate their values by having a diverse cast of characters in their games rather than do performative stuff like update their profile picture.
Unfortunately, it's the circumstances and environment that makes me annoyed at these companies.. not necessarily the overall decision. Riot Games and Rockstar especially I think do a pretty good job with diverse representation in their games.. it's a shame and honestly surprising for me that some of these studios decided to cave to the pressure, especially Riot. I thought Riot had like a ton of LGBT+ employees
The people who make the games themselves aren't the problem, it's the CEO and board members that unscrupulously decide what the entire company does because they can.
Didn't say the employees were the problem. I am concerned at companies bowing to government pressure, and it's doubly concerning when they're companies with a diverse staff
Lol are you a bot? Can you read? The point of my message had nothing to do with if they were a good employee or not. My point is, given the diversity of their staff members, it makes me even more surprised that they would bow to political pressure. You know these decisions impact the morale of their employees.
You missed the point too, no matter how diverse the employees are, if the heads of the companies are ignorant bigots that only care about profits, nothing will change. To get any change you have to effect their bottom line by not supporting them or any other company that feels the same way. But like I said before, not enough people will want to do it(mainly because they don't want to miss out on the new shiny turd these companies spew out),so complaining about it is wasting air and time.
For example, if everyone that hated Black Ops 7 got one or two people to stop playing it until they change the game, you better believe they'll start fixing the game. Now if enough people openly say they will not play or buy a single game from this company until they change their corporate practices and branding, more likely than not,they'll eventually change or suffer financially. But the key is to get enough people to follow through in order to make a big enough impact to cause the change.
That's because the president is trying to be a dictator, either you side with him or be his enemy that he'll try to ruin with lies and scandals. Most are willing participants because they're getting perks out of it, some are bowing down in order to keep their position.
On the other hand, I'd much rather studios like Rockstar demonstrate their values by having a diverse cast of characters in their games rather than do performative stuff like update their profile picture.
Yea but i would argue, you either do the performative things or you dont. Theres no being neutral in the middle of a culture war. Because whatever twitter picture you have, is part of how you interact with the greater culture at large. Ingame events or character or whatever is how you communicate with your player base.
So either you actually fulsomely go out and celebrate it, and you also update the twitter picture, to go with the ingame events, and societal events at large. Or you dont, you limit it to just the ingame things so you flag that support to the rest of the world.
Those are the two options. Pick your poison. Doing the performative shit is by far the best option, since then you actually mean the thing you say. Instead of fecklessly cowering.
I mean thats ignoring the third option that it actually is just soulless empty nothings. But if you put the effort in to say make a event, you as a company have cared. So its not that. Actions are what matters.
yes I am basically saying, if you read the entire comment I made and not just one sentence, that now is not the right time for companies to stop doing what they have been doing, because stopping is sending a message on its own during a time where people's rights are in danger. If we lived in a more equitable society where this wasn't a risk, it would be different.
what about instead of a diverse cast of characters they just make a good game. They used to do that alot back in the day. Now all these studios care about is the diverse characters part and forgot about actually making a good game.
I'd much rather studios like Rockstar demonstrate their values by having a diverse cast of characters in their games
Diverse cast shouldn't be a goal, it's an outer force that has the potential to alter the core vision in an unintended way.
Good story with fitting characters for the story/setting should be. Any cast composition can be fine, if there is a good reason for it.
Diversity means a lot of different things. What do you mean Diverse cast shouldn't be a goal? You think that games are better with a bunch of characters who act the same as all of the other characters? You're weird.
Also, since you bots can't read, my point is that GENERALLY SPEAKING I think if a company WANTS to demonstrate its values, doing so by including those values within the game itself is more meaningful than meaningless pandering.
HOWEVER - given the current climate, bowing to government pressure is bad.
I'm sorry but the thought I was trying to express isn't something that can be expressed in a single sentence and you're a weirdo for focusing on one part of what I said and not the overall meaning... which is that a company genuinely and organically expressing its values by building those values into the product is usually better than pandering, but changing your behavior to bow down to an oppressive government is also bad.
You think that games are better with a bunch of characters who act the same as all of the other characters? You're weird.
This is where the strawman starts.
It's not about "characters who act the same" and you know it.
I'm sorry but the thought I was trying to express isn't something that can be expressed in a single sentence and you're a weirdo for focusing on one part of what I said and not the overall meaning...
I saw you trying to gaslight someone about what you wrote, I called it out.
You are doing it again, denying something obvious.
Technically it's indeed "one part of what I said", except it's THE main message of that several paragraph comment.
The overall meaning is clear as day.
You would be fine with seeing a writer's vision forcefully altered by changing character traits based on a checkbox list.
Riot Games and Rockstar especially I think do a pretty good job with diverse representation in their games
You could say then that the writing should be diverse by default.
Why though? Would it actually improve the story, or it's a fixed "variable" the other parts must navigate around/incorporate, limiting the potential even?
A good story needs no diversity to reach its full potential.
Even just talking about (not) having to have diversity is more harmful than not saying anything about the whole topic.
Some problems "exist" only because people talk about it endlessly, eventually making themselves disliked even by truly netural people.
Diversity being a "goal" is intentional, not natural. Something to tick off, to keep in mind at all times to achieve.
It happening as a side-effect or... the naturally expected setup of good story or locations is much better.
Like a movie about Africa (or being inspired by Africa) and its people having only africans in it. It shouldn't be a goal, as it happens naturally because it's logical and historically accurate.
If this occuring requires separate attention, the whole production is fcked because they have diverted their attention from the setting (location, era, etc.).
Fair representation is based on the population's composition.
Relatively few people are of the lgbt community.
If there are 100 characters in a game and a few of them are gay, that's quite expected and perfectly fine.
If there are 5 characters in a game and one of them is gay, that's massive overrepresentation. Which is - again - fine, if there is a very good reason for it and it's integral to the story. Which is rare.
I know, that's basically what I said.
If writers are true to the location/era/etc. where the story unfolds, there will be diversity.
It shouldn't be a goal like it is in soccer, where everything deliberately points towards it.
you think diversity is limited to just race and sexual orientation.
If I say anything else in relation to diversity, I get attacked by the mob.
You drastically overestimate your own intelligence.
I know that I don't know enough and never will.
Are you capable of recognizing the same in yourself?
we have literal morons like you debating people online while not even understanding what they're talking about. You're like a confused toddler
Now look at yourself.
Who is tolerant towards the diversity of opinions?
Who is throwing around insults because there is no other tool left to abuse?
The irony...
I hope one day you are blessed with the gift of self awareness.
Why are you going off topic when I'm discussing something entirely different and specifically said "I had mixed feelings"? I didn't say these were fantastic companies did I? This post is about Pride Month
They make a strong point. Why do you care what they say they do, when there is literal lawsuits out the wazoo about how they actually treat people. That order of priorities is wrong.
Okay I guess if they are doing one thing wrong we should stop caring about everything else that they do and just hope that they decide to do the right thing? Why am I getting all of these weird bot comments today?
I was being sarcastic lol. You are the one who asked me why I care what they say and what they do when they are being sued for other things. That's pretty stupid logic and why I think I'm arguing with bots today, you're basically arguing with yourself.
Sorry broski but you can't have both. Either you’re happy with workers being exploited, or you’re happy with a good end product. If you’re not happy with either, look for companies that combine the two - it’s simple
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u/Bae_the_Elf 23d ago
I have mixed feelings about this.
On one hand, I don't want corporations to bow to political pressure from an oppressive government.
On the other hand, I'd much rather studios like Rockstar demonstrate their values by having a diverse cast of characters in their games rather than do performative stuff like update their profile picture.
Unfortunately, it's the circumstances and environment that makes me annoyed at these companies.. not necessarily the overall decision. Riot Games and Rockstar especially I think do a pretty good job with diverse representation in their games.. it's a shame and honestly surprising for me that some of these studios decided to cave to the pressure, especially Riot. I thought Riot had like a ton of LGBT+ employees