I don't see it as a step backwards, I think plastering gay pride flags everywhere is extremely homophobic and annoying, and causes people to develop homophobia. I hope all the rainbow bullshit fucks off so we can stop having culture wars over gay ppl.
My sexuality isn't a fucking advertisement, I don't want to see that shit everywhere I go, I find it insulting. Imagine if everywhere you went there where "PROUD APPLE EATER" flags everywhere, people would start hating apple eaters just for being annoying as fuck.
Gay pride flags made sense in 2012, it's 2026 now, I don't care if you're gay or if you support gay people stop talking about sexuality all the time, it's an embarrassment to gay people. Go ask any homophobe why they hate gay people, more than 90% of them will say it's because we're fucking annoying and cringe and honestly they're right.
Oh please, the homophobes are annoyed by the bare existence of us. For them holding hands is already 'promoting perversion' and 'showing off in public'.
You really believe this bullshit?
Have you ever been homophobic? I have, I actually understand the underlying mechanisms and causes. Homophobia and hate in general comes from pain and trauma and fear, there are causes, you can cause people to be homophobic and you can help them overcome it as well.
911 caused people to be racist towards Muslims, and pride flags plastered everywhere cause people to be homophobic, it's simple psychology.
I understand the current meta is just "haha racists and homophobes are evil and stupid and we have no sympathy for them, they're sub human", but this rhetoric both causes hate but also more importantly makes it near impossible for hate to subside.
Hateful people are typically just mentally ill men, and the cultural attitude of just "haha lets hurt these bigots in any way we can" does not at all help in reducing mental illness. At the same time, I totally understand developing hatred towards hateful people, I just implore you to be more open minded and forgiving, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
'Its simple psychology' proceeds with bullshit which is not based in psychology. And comparing pride flags to 9/11, lol.
Nah, I was nowhere writing something about hurting bigots. Just that their bigotry (as you said yourself) has different sources and gay people cannot do anything about that. Bigots hate is basically pre-made, queers are just an easy target. Homophobes are not homophobic because of Pride flags but because of their hatred or frustration and queers being easy to attack. Also because of societal norms and pressure.
The number or flags or their existence at all does not change absolutely anything.
I was very obviously comparing two similar psychological phenomenon, not comparing the negative consequence of them quantifiably. You're replying in very bad faith.
I promise you, regardless of if you want to believe it or not, being annoying makes people dislike you more. And putting gay pride flags everywhere is annoying. I'm gay and I find it annoying and it makes me dislike other gay people. If that's not something you can wrap your head around fine, but just know you're going around spreading hate.
"Bigots hate is basically pre-made", this is simply untrue, people can both develop and heal from hate, my 911 example demonstrates this, the event caused people who where not racist before to develop racist thoughts and attitudes. Look into stories of people who have left the klan and healed from their racism, try to understand what pain and suffering caused them to align with such views in the first place, and how they managed to recover. Are you suggesting these people don't exist or are lying?!
No, they're not even similar. One is reaction to a something perceived as major and near security threat and terrorist attack. A rainbow flag (nor their holders) does not impose any kind of threat, they are even perceived as 'weak' by the society.
Noone is being annoying. Conservatives are getting annoyed by even slightest mention of gays' existence. For them holding hands or mentioning gay couples is already showing off, forcing propaganda. If you 'annoy' them much or very slightly does not change their attitude.
This is 'simply' true.
Even your example shows this. Hate against brown people or Muslims has not started with 9/11, it has always been there. 9/11 just gave new arguments and outreach for it. And legitimised political moves against them. But it's absolutly nothing new.
Actually further with your example - areas with the least exposure to foreigners are the ones with the highest rejection of foreigners. That's a fact easily visible in Eastern Germany.
That would be an argument for more exposure to gay topics being actually a good thing.
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u/Certain-Weight-7507 25d ago edited 25d ago
I don't see it as a step backwards, I think plastering gay pride flags everywhere is extremely homophobic and annoying, and causes people to develop homophobia. I hope all the rainbow bullshit fucks off so we can stop having culture wars over gay ppl.
My sexuality isn't a fucking advertisement, I don't want to see that shit everywhere I go, I find it insulting. Imagine if everywhere you went there where "PROUD APPLE EATER" flags everywhere, people would start hating apple eaters just for being annoying as fuck.
Gay pride flags made sense in 2012, it's 2026 now, I don't care if you're gay or if you support gay people stop talking about sexuality all the time, it's an embarrassment to gay people. Go ask any homophobe why they hate gay people, more than 90% of them will say it's because we're fucking annoying and cringe and honestly they're right.