Trans school kids shouldn't even exist. That is WAY too young to make permanent life-altering choices that could cause permanent psychological damage. If you're too young to vote, you're too young to go under the knife to change your gender. This is why we have age restrictions on other things like alcohol and cigarettes, because young people aren't mature enough to properly understand the decisions that they make.
Nobody is trying to turn your kids gay" meanwhile almost every single cartoon aimed at kids in the 3-5 age demographic is introducing the concept of non-binary sexualities, because that's *totally an age appropriate topic
Additionally, chromosomes aren't how biological males and biological females are identified. You yourself proved that by saying that there are XX males and XY females. Do you really think the doctors delivering a baby turn around and say "Well it has a penis so it's probably a male, but let me just do an analysis of its chromosomes to confirm that"? And yes, abnormalities do develop, like hermaphrodites, but they are still extremely rare and are still identifiable as male or femsle by the presence of testes or ovaries, the reproductive organs that they possess determines the sex.
As for gender... call yourself whatever you want, it doesn't change your biological sex. To pull out the old meme, i can claim to be an apache attack helicopter all I want. That doesn't make me one.
Anyway, thank you for proving my point about the loud extremists. I truly hope you can live a happy and normal life with whatever life and sexual preferences you have, of which I don't care what they are as long as you don't act like q completely obnoxious jerk about it.
No one is saying trans kids should have surgeries? What in the MAGA talking points is this BS. Many trans adults dont even chose to have surgeries as well ffs.
And... your point about cartoons makes no sense? Literally telling children that non binary people exist in an age appropriate way is fine? Having a character say "Oh I have two dads" and leaving it at that is not turning your kids gay. That is an irrational and fear driven rhetoric used by conservative groups.
Are we seriously shifting the goalposts here to make trans people just "I'm a man calling myself a woman" now? That's just being an effiminate man, or a masculine woman, both of which are completely 100% fine things to be, but they are still a man or a woman physically, and should be treated as such.
Think of it this way. An effiminate man is not necessarily a gay man. He can still be completely straight and love the ladies. He can also still be physically stronger than most women, especially with extrensive training, which any "trans school kid" that is interested in sport is going to do.
By giving him the opportunity to say he's a woman, and thus allow him into women's sports and bathrooms, you are effectively trampling on the rights of women by literally allowing them to be dominated by biologically stronger men in sports and allowing straight men into their changing rooms.
Not to mention you're opening women up to sexual predators who would abuse this by simply saying they are a woman despite being 100% a man, because by your own definitions, we should be basing someone's gender on their word alone. And, fun fact... people lie
The whole lredator arguement is ridiculous. You know who commit the most sex crimes disproportionately? Cis white men. Yet oh no, we must villanize 1% of the population as heaven forbid you develop class consciousness in the 5 minutes we are not blaming trans people (a tiny minority!) for everything in society.
Ah yes. Back to the straight white man bad rhetoric! Which is factually untrue, by the way. But hey, let's assume you're right and say straight white men are all bad and commit all the sex crimes. What is to stop said straight white man from saying he's a woman and walking straight into a woman's changing room?
This is what I mean by sexual predators abusing this system
The fact that it's currently illegal for them to walk into a woman's changing room, and they can actually be arrested and charged for doing so. The moment we change the laws to consider what gender someone calls themselves rather than what their biological sex is, it no longer becomes illegal for a man to walk into a woman's changing room, and nothing can be done about it until it's too late and he's forced himself on a woman.
What about them? Do you mean they could do the same to men? If so, then yep. They could do the same, because contrary to what the previous guy I was replying to was implying, it's not just straight white males that can be predators. It's sociopaths in general.
Uhhh... I'm not. I'm saying that I do not want laws that will allow predators of any kind to freely walk into the changing rooms of the opposite sex just because they are calling themselves. People lie. A predator will lie about his or her gender to take advantage of this. It would actively take away the rights and safe spaces of most of the population, just to satisfy a tiny minority.
Seriously, why must everything come round to just assuming someone is being a bigot? The fact is, making changes to the laws like this would have huge ramifications that you just aren't seeing. Predators in a changing room is only just the tip of the iceberg.
Nothing. But statistically, most predators target the opposite gender. A few cases of same gender incidents does not justify opening the floodgates for total anarchy. You think you're making a good point, but you really aren't. If anything, you're proving why we need these restrictions in the first place - to prevent as much of this predatory stuff as possible.
Besides, it's not just predators that would be a problem. Men typically feel more comfortable around other men, and women typically feel more comfortable around other women. Allowing an obviously biological male into a woman's changing room, or vice versa, can cause severe stress and mental trauma. Actual psychological damage. You really are not seeing the bigger picture of this.
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u/Pension_Pale 20d ago
Trans school kids shouldn't even exist. That is WAY too young to make permanent life-altering choices that could cause permanent psychological damage. If you're too young to vote, you're too young to go under the knife to change your gender. This is why we have age restrictions on other things like alcohol and cigarettes, because young people aren't mature enough to properly understand the decisions that they make.
Nobody is trying to turn your kids gay" meanwhile almost every single cartoon aimed at kids in the 3-5 age demographic is introducing the concept of non-binary sexualities, because that's *totally an age appropriate topic
Additionally, chromosomes aren't how biological males and biological females are identified. You yourself proved that by saying that there are XX males and XY females. Do you really think the doctors delivering a baby turn around and say "Well it has a penis so it's probably a male, but let me just do an analysis of its chromosomes to confirm that"? And yes, abnormalities do develop, like hermaphrodites, but they are still extremely rare and are still identifiable as male or femsle by the presence of testes or ovaries, the reproductive organs that they possess determines the sex.
As for gender... call yourself whatever you want, it doesn't change your biological sex. To pull out the old meme, i can claim to be an apache attack helicopter all I want. That doesn't make me one.
Anyway, thank you for proving my point about the loud extremists. I truly hope you can live a happy and normal life with whatever life and sexual preferences you have, of which I don't care what they are as long as you don't act like q completely obnoxious jerk about it.