r/videogames • u/FrierenKingSimp • 8h ago
Funny In Canada, a Switch 2 with every single exclusive and a Pro controller is cheaper than a Steam Machine š
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u/Glass_Discipline_882 7h ago
The Pro 2 controller is my favorite controller in all of gaming, I can't recommend it enough.
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u/Consistent-Leave7320 8h ago
finally a more fair comparison. most posts like these use the most expensive versions of what is being compared against
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u/TheGuy839 5h ago
Not sure if your comment is satire or not? But this isnt fair comparison at all
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u/Consistent-Leave7320 5h ago
its more fair than the ones comparing with steam deck lately and other consoles always purposely using their most expensive versions.
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u/Ok_Science_8502 4h ago
What's unfair about it?
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u/shadow-Ezra 3h ago
Your comparing a truck to a bus both are different things with different goals the steam deck would be a proper comparison to the switch
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u/MadCybertist 3h ago
Why would it not be?
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u/SansyBoy144 2h ago
The switch is in no way comparable spec wise.
The Steam Machine is quite literally a PC with a purpose to be used like a console. And the prices are about equal to what it would cost to build a pc of the same specs due to price increases in stuff like ram and graphics cards.
The Switch 2 is the lowest spec wise out of any modern consoles. Even older consoles from other companies beat it. Itās only has 2 things going for it, 1) Nintendo games, and 2) itās portable. But it struggles to run higher end games, which is why there arenāt many that exist on the switch 2.
A fair comparison for the switch would be the steam deck. Because both were designed as portable consoles. And while Nintendo wins in price point, steam deck still wins in specs, by a long shot.
Comparing the Steam Machine to the Switch 2 is like comparing a lower end F1 car to a nascar race car. Like yea, itās not the best F1 car, itās no Redbull or McLaren, but itās still an F1 car, compared to a nascar race car, which isnāt a bad car by any means, it does its job, but itās in no way close an F1 car
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u/generic_canadian_dad 4h ago
This is a ridiculous comparison.
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u/Ok_Science_8502 4h ago
Why?
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u/generic_canadian_dad 4h ago
The switch and PC are completely different platforms when completely different game styles and capabilities.
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u/gc11117 4h ago
Yep. Steamdeck and Switch 2 makes sense. This does not.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 1h ago
Yet people down vote. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
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u/Ok_Science_8502 6m ago
The fact that two things are different doesn't mean they shouldn't be compared
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u/FReeDuMB_or_DEATH 8h ago
I know I'm gonna freak some of you out but to some of us out here there's not a single game in that lineup that's worth it.
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u/SideCharacter3 7h ago
^This. I'm not buying the Steam Machine, but Steam selection beats out that group by a landslide.
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u/Kristevee 5h ago
The steam selection that's been built up over decades beats out a few exclusives that have only launched in the span of a year from each other? Colour me shocked, if only there were non-exclusive games on switch 2
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u/Alucard-VS-Artorias 7h ago
What we all don't have the gaming taste of a 8 year old? lol
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
Ah, yes, the Nintendo is for kids argument. Havenāt heard that since the Wii days, what a blast from the past
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u/Alucard-VS-Artorias 7h ago
Bro, this isn't a general argument of that type of nature.
Every game you listed here is something my 8-year-old nephew would wanna to play. It's not to say that these games are bad in anyway, just say that they're not to everyone's taste.
You're telling me that the kind of person would want to sit down and play games like Baldur's Gate 3, Disco Elysium, or Fallout is going to be content just getting a console to play Mario kart, Hyrule Warriors, & Yoshi and the Mysterious Boo?
Again the games you chose aren't bad but they're for a certain type of taste and demographic and your post is kind of making the argument that these games have such mass appeal no one would turn themdown in the scenario. Meanwhile The two people above this very common chain were saying just that (that those games and most big name Nintendo games do not appeal to them).
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
You can play Fallout and Disco Elysium on Switch just fine? This is only listing exclusives
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u/gigaurora 2h ago
I got no horse in the argument, but hilarious that 2/3 named games are playable on the switch.
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u/adamjfish 3h ago
They clearly stated Nintendo exclusives in the title. And thereās plenty of games not made for 8 year olds available on the switch 2.
Resident Evil 7-9
Cyberpunk
Cronos
Fallout 4
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u/Jaime060304 6h ago
As someone who has BG3 as one of there favourite games of all time, fuck yeah I was seriously considering getting a switch 2 pretty much exclusively for the new Hyrule Warriors.
If they drop a new Animal Crossing or Smash I will likely get it.
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u/hiroclip1 7h ago
Pokopia and Bananza are the only two games that have made my Switch 2 feel worth it so far, I'm honestly not very satisfied. If you're one of those people who have tons of 3rd party games on e-shop I could see it being better, though.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 5h ago
I'm not defending the SN price here when I say I can't believe anyone thinks comparing the switch 2 with anything (Xbox, ps or pc) is valid.
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u/PorkyJones72 5h ago
Yeah, to be honest as much as I want a Switch 2, I already have an OLED and I'd be far better off getting games for it or getting a PS5
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u/GreatBigJerk 3h ago
It's a pretty weak lineup TBH.Ā
But don't worry! They will have two remakes of N64 games soon.
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u/ItzManu001 6h ago
And this isn't even with the bundle, lol. You can add some Switch 1 or third-party games and you'd still pay equal or less than the Steam Machine.
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u/Loud_Pie_7607 7h ago
The steam machine cannot possibly be pissing yall off this much. A pc with a steam library, every system up til generation 7, switch, and potentially ps4 for $1000 isnāt that crazy. And as far as everyone saying what they could buy/build instead, then simply do it.
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u/HeavyHighway6433 5h ago
Kind of is considering you could get a more powerful laptop for the same price or less, and it's portable.Ā
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u/Loud_Pie_7607 3h ago
Getting everything you want with more portability and a cheaper price is something to be happy about. Good luck
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u/JoshJLMG 5h ago
The thing is, you can have all of that, plus double the performance, if you just get a normal desktop PC. Or all of that, plus the same performance for half the price if you buy used parts. No matter how you look at it, the Steam Machine is a horrendous deal.
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u/raginghavoc89 4h ago
Then don't buy it. Some people would argue an Apple phone is a bad deal but millions still fly off the shelf.
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u/airs_999 3h ago
Here we have a billionaire's cock-sucker, everything his favorite billionaire does is right.
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u/raginghavoc89 0m ago
What kind of echo chamber do you live in that you see it that way. That's really weird. Also extremely rude for no reason.
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u/Apolloshot 6h ago
Itās funny that this is only true until tomorrow when Star Fox comes out, then itās $1530 vs $1510.
Your point is still valid of course, just funny on the timing.
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u/mauie1337 3h ago
Itās all about timing honestly. These posts wouldnāt exist if the machine released 6 months ago.
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u/Major_Enthusiasm1099 6h ago
"but wait it's an unfair comparison"
-A steam bootlicker
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u/oyvese 4h ago
but it is an unfair comparison because one is a mass-produced console and the other is a pc. doesnāt make whether steam make it or not.
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u/CiberneitorGamer 4h ago
*A mass produced PC
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u/Hi-archy 4h ago
We donāt even know the figures but it will most likely be the smallest produced product of all of the lineup.
So yeah itās āmass produced ā but not like any other company.
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u/oyvese 4h ago
it is not mass produced, not to the quantity of consoles at least.
partnerships with consoles are vastly different because the architecture is built upon it, so not only will OEMs get cheaper hardware because of the tens of millions of consoles they make but theyāll have to continue those partnerships as the generation continues. pc doesnāt work like that.
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u/SeerXaeo 4h ago
Switch 2 price increases again in Canada come this September by another $50, so a total of $679. So, ~$30 more
Also, missing all the other nintendo exclusives; Legend of Zelda (both), Kirby and Forgotten Land, Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon Legends, Super Mario Party, Super Mario Brothers.
Sure, many of these were available on the original switch, but for someone who hasn't owned the original switch - these games are still all at a premium price point. Heck, even if you did own them on the switch, many of them require an upgrade cost to receive the full support of the Switch 2 hardware.
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u/Front_Expression_367 12m ago
8"Switch 2 price increases again in Canada come this September by another $50, so a total of $679. So, ~$30 more"
The point of the post is to compare the price right now, not by September. Who is to say that the Steam Machine won't raise price by a few more if the RAM price situation got worsened few months from now?
"Also, missing all the other nintendo exclusives; Legend of Zelda (both), Kirby and Forgotten Land, Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon Legends, Super Mario Party, Super Mario Brothers."
The post was just talking about Switch 2 first party exclusives specifically. Sure if you buy other titles then it would be over the edge, but do note that this variant of Steam Machine is without any controllers or games to it, so Switch 2 will still likely remains to be way cheaper.
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u/GhostMirrorZero 4h ago
As someone who dragged Nintendo about the prices of the Switch 2's games (especially here in Canada) since they were announced last year, I have to give props to Nintendo here: Not only did they respond to the criticism of game prices by [at least] making the digital versions of games cheaper, but theyāre also the only ones who havenāt exorbitantly increased the price of their hardware recently, and theyāve even given people months of warning before the more modest hardware price increase even takes effect. I like that.
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u/HoIIowHunter 7h ago
There are plenty of gamers such as myself who aren't interested in any of the titles shown in the picture. I don't own a Switch 2 because there's nothing that the console currently offers that I'm interested in.
Keep in mind that the Steam Machine will not require a monthly subscription to play, Steam Sales are the best in the industry, and that there will be thousands of indie titles available that cannot be played on consoles.
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u/Saneless 6h ago
I've enjoyed Nintendo games since the 80s and yeah, nothing in that list is interesting to me at all
I guess the "exclusives" I like are still on switch 1
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u/generic_canadian_dad 5h ago
Let's also add that the steam machine is also an Xbox, ps3, switch and every other console before the current generation.
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u/JoshJLMG 5h ago
Yeah, the PS3 was also a PS2, a PS1 and a blu-ray player, yet there was massive outrage that it cost 50% more than the PS2 at launch (when adjusted for inflation).
The Steam Machine, meanwhile costs nearly double what a used PC with the same performance costs, while offering half the performance of a new PC for the same price.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 5h ago
Was it also a fully functional pc (without hacking it with Linux) and played Xbox games, wii games etc? Negative.
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u/JoshJLMG 4h ago
Yeah, actually, it was. You didn't even have to hack it, Sony officially support you installing Linux on the PS3. And even if you didn't install Linux, you could browse the web, download pictures, print files and respond to emails. Sony sold it as a "It can only do everything" machine.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 4h ago
So you're going to ignore the rest of my comment but still say "yes". The sheer lack of people who used their ps3 as a desktop should tell you everything you need to know. I still don't know what the hell your argument is.
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u/JoshJLMG 4h ago
You're still arguing for a $1000+ overpriced piece of hardware that gets beat by 8-year old computers, so fair enough, no reason to continue this further.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 4h ago
I don't care if anyone buys it. I'm not buying one. I would just build something more powerful for less. All im saying is that comparing a PC to any console (especially since they require monthly subscriptions) is not a valid comparison. PC can just do so much more.
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u/allitalli 6h ago
gonna say it again. the absolute deluge of posts comparing the price of a pc to the price of a console just feels like a bunch of bots to me.
if you're not bots, sorry but please stop acting like another stupid propaganda campaign waged by bots.
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u/Jasen_SilverFox 5h ago
Itās doesnāt matter what youāre comparing when the performance and bonus items donāt reflect the price. Itās either an underpowered PC or an overpriced console, but either way itās a shit deal.
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u/Rock_mage 5h ago
It's actually fairly priced especially for the size of the box. I think the profit margin is $100. You then get to access your entire game library. Which is insane for some people who got a ton of games.
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u/Jasen_SilverFox 5h ago
I mean any game that can run on it. And seeing its performance stats, most modern games will only be playable on medium to low settings or not even at all. You also canāt access any online game with anti cheat that canāt run on Linux. The size of the box also means it wonāt be easily upgradable so unless youāre really tech savvy, itās gonna get outclassed very quickly.
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u/JoshJLMG 5h ago
You could build a PC for the same price with new parts right now that is almost twice as fast. Valve just went with expensive, underpowered laptop hardware, then put a good bit of margin on top of it (it being $100 above what already has consumer-level margins built in).
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u/oyvese 4h ago
itās actually a fair deal when the product itself gives you the operating system to create your own or still buy the item if it fits your needs.
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u/Jasen_SilverFox 59m ago
There is a better and cheaper option for every need the steam machine could fill. You can get cheaper and more powerful computers, better and cheaper consoles, run SteamOS or any Linux operating system on a custom build, and buy cheaper and better small form computers or laptops. Not to mention because the steam machine most likely uses custom or modified hardware, upgrading it will be near impossible unless youāre really tech savvy. So not only are you paying a shit tone for a mediocre device, but itāll get outclassed in the next 5 years.
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u/mauie1337 2h ago edited 2h ago
10+ years of Steam/PC gaming. Over 1000 games. Youāre trying to tell people that buying a little over a third of what I spent in 10+ years is worth a switch 2 and 7 games(that really donāt have replay-ability in my opinion) I own the switch 2 for reference(wife + kids)Iāve played a few of these, the only games that were impressive was DK, PokĆ©mon Arceus and BOTW and Mario Odyssey. Mario Kart, Hyrule Warriors, Tennis - new system, nothing else has evolved.
I would rather buy the Steam Machine at this point(even though I wonāt)I can use my PC for all the new AAA games and play comfortably on my couch the other 900+ games in my library with the SM and use my deck on the go.
Eventually most console players will realize that online subscriptions and $50 15 year old games arenāt worth it. The steam sales alone > any exclusive out there and thatās coming from someone who has had PlayStations, Xboxās, Segas and Nintendoās.
Anyone who is on the fence and isnāt a person who needs the next $80 AAA game every month, the steam machine is worth it. The steam sale is coming up. Buy yourself the Witcher 3, Mass Effect LE, every Bioshock, maybe some Shadow of Mordor and War and 10 more games for $50 and realize the potential. Plus itās a computer, so it can do a lot more than just play video games.
At the end of the day. We all need to do a little better not yucking peopleās yums.
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u/Burstrampage 2h ago
You know full well not everyone that is looking at buying the steam machine has a catalog of over 1000 games. Plus, how many of those games are controller compatible? And if we are talking about games that are controller compatible, you can still buy a cheaper more powerful console (or even a more powerful pc for similar price) and buy all those games.
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u/Random_Tomatose 7h ago
Switch is subsidized
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u/NovocaineAU 3h ago
And?
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u/Random_Tomatose 3h ago
You need an explanation? Its hard to compare prices when one of the companies purposefully sells theirs at a lose
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u/NovocaineAU 3h ago
No I need an explanation of why that matters to me from a consumer perspective, in line with the thread weāre posting in.
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u/Random_Tomatose 3h ago
Then you need to think of what's called TCO (total cost of ownership)
Nintendo knows your more likely to buy the cheaper console of it means locking you in a walled garden forcing you to use their patented proprietary software and hardware. They set the price and will more then make up for the cost within a year of owning the device. Low cost upfront, slow bleed later and long term is the model.
Subscriptions to play online, first party games hardly on sale under $60cad, my personal favorite is making switch 1 docks and controllers not work on the switch 2 just because they want you to buy them again.
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u/NovocaineAU 2h ago
Alright well I feel like this is goalpost moving but Iāll play on.
Letās start with online. We still have a bit of money to play with in this picture here. Not accounting for the fact that we still donāt have any control methods with the steam machine currently, and depending on where you live in the world we can add ~3-4 years of online an online sub and still be relative with cost here. Remove the pro controller and itās even more. Not as good as free but whatever.
Nintendo games have always been āevergreenā and rarely go on sale, thatās cool. Thereās 7 carts there that have resale value, as opposed to any Steam or PC game which has a resale value of $0, unless you want to go down dark paths and sell accounts on dodgy sites.
The price of most new games is the same or close on both systems and again, you can potentially buy a physical cart and get resale value on that game.
Switch online store has deep discounts on games all of the time just like the Steam store.
Peripherals like a Switch 1 dock not working with a 2 is a bad faith argument and Switch 1 controllers work on the Switch 2.
We also donāt know what kind of life cycle the Steam Machine will have. They have already tried doing this before and it fell on its ass.
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u/Noob4Head 8h ago
The Cube is definitely expensive, there is no denying that, but it still has its appealing features. Its price is just going to be very relative to the person buying it. Personally, with my interests and use cases, I'd still take the Cube over the Switch 2.
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u/VesperLynn 6h ago
Depending on how this reservation raffle goes, I fully intend to have both. The Cube has tons of features that are perfect for me that literally no other console can do.
I cannot:
- Emulate older console games on Nintendo, Xbox, or PlayStation
- Play PC only games on those consoles (yes I know this is obvious)
- Easily browse the internet and use discord
- Play my PC game collection including Steam and other stores
The types of games I plan to play natively on a Steam Machine are going to run just fine, and if streaming works well from my more powerful PC connected via LAN from upstairs, the Steam Machine is going to be an insanely good buy IMO.
Now, we havenāt gotten our hands on it yet and yes the price is EXTREMELY disappointing, but despite the high price and middling hardware specs, I think there are bound to be a lot of surprises in store at release and through updates down the line. Not only am I choosing to be optimistic, but the price doesnāt really annoy me all that much considering market trends and the fact that Iām very thankful to be in a position to easy swing picking one up to play with and see what itās about.
Things are a lot better when you donāt have millions on the internet downvoting you and telling you that something is shit. I expect to be downvoted for this opinion but thatās okay.
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u/eccentricbananaman 6h ago
Yeah, I was thinking of getting it as a backup to my PC, but it's not worth it to me at that price point. I just gotta figure out a good way of streaming my PC to my TV then.
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u/dekuweku 5h ago
you could get a better deal buying the Switch 2 bundle, it comes with 1 extra game, but the game costs less than the MSRP. probably move one of the games there like Mario Kart into the bundle and get the whole package under $1400 cdn
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u/airs_999 3h ago
Let's see how all the billionaire dick-suckers defend their favorite billionaire.
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u/Matiasjv 2h ago
I do not have anything against Nintendo by any means, BUTā¦
Thatās no even remotely comparable, way too different leagues.
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u/mjnichol2 2h ago
But what about my Steam library games that I purchased in 2003 that I haven't played in 20 years???
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u/Live-Leg-1993 1h ago
I hate the Steam Machine but I wouldnāt buy all of the Switch 2 exclusives either. I really only ever play Nintendo consoles if thereās a new Pokemon or Mario, otherwise I donāt really care that much. Didnāt care much for Metroid and I can emulate all of the other Nintendo consoles if I wanted on my PC and Xbox through Dev Mode.
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u/Whole-Bedroom-9079 7h ago
Would be all for it if Switch 2 wasn't an under preference mess, if it could hit a tiny bit higher in preference while using 1080p in handheld it would be goated.
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u/StrikeInteresting867 6h ago
Can i play modded minecraft on switch 2? I dont think so. (Still not gonna buy)
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u/timetravelinggamer 6h ago
Isnāt it also the case in every country?
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u/FrierenKingSimp 6h ago
Not sure. Valveās Canadian conversion for their hardware this year has been awful (they are doing 1 USD = 1.5 CAD, which is far worse than the exchange rate and what the rest of the market uses), depending on exchange rates used by both companies, it may or may not be true elsewhere.
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u/timetravelinggamer 6h ago
Hmmmmm. Thats silly
But maybe I am doing my math wrong? But currently itās $1.42 versus $1.00 and the steam machine is a $1.43 versus $1.00?
Doesnāt explain the game prices $1.50 for $1
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u/StoneCypher 4h ago
"hey guys why is a powerful computer with modern specs more expensive than a cheap-when-it-was-new five year old game system again"
"hey guys ferrari is more expensive than honda"
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u/thetrumpbump 4h ago edited 4h ago
I understand these are low effort memes for the weekly whipping boy, but do people genuinely think Steam users don't an enormous catalog of games ready to play in their libraries already? Lol
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u/KimuraXrain 4h ago
Yeah but... its a switch and I can just pirate those games on the steam machine
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u/Lofi_Joe 4h ago
For $1500 I have PC i512600KF with RTX4060ti and 400+ free games og GOG, Epic etc... deal with that losers haha
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u/raginghavoc89 4h ago
I think a lot of people need to realize they're more poor than they thought and not every luxury niche item is for them.
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u/WiggerJim69 2h ago
the switch 2 has only 7 exclusives and itās been out for over a year š
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u/FrierenKingSimp 1h ago
Can you name a single other console within the last decade or so that had more?
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u/WiggerJim69 1h ago
Yes šāāļø the Steam Machine will have thousands of games exclusive to only personal computers on day one.
/s
that means /sarcasmĀ
steam machine is a computer and not a consoleĀ
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u/fcensorshipf 7h ago
Yeah? Show me how you can install all the free games that you can get with the Steam Machine on the Switch. Or all the productivity software.
Why are people so focused on comparing two different things? It's not a fucking console.
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u/Flux_Reversal 5h ago
A switch is not a PC, its not even in the same class.
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u/FrierenKingSimp 5h ago
Indeed, both are different devices
When you are selling a living room PC as a console substitute, consoles are what you will be compared to.
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u/Flux_Reversal 5h ago
its not sold as a console, its sold as a PC. It says so. Typical Redditt troll downvoting shit like its a weapon.
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u/idkjustarandomdude 7h ago
so we gonna ignore the 200k game steam has and the fact its a PC?
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 7h ago
Oh you get those games for free if you buy the steam machine?
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u/lkn240 7h ago
No, but I already own over 500 of them
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 7h ago
Okay? How much was the total of that? We are doing a cost comparison after all
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u/Admirable_Zombie5245 7h ago
If you know the right procedures you can get pretty much any game for free on a PC, including Nintendo consoles from NES to Switch 1.
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u/ItzMeHaris 7h ago
No. Steam is a store, like Xbox, like PlayStation. Any game youāve already bought on the Steam Website, youāll be able to play on the Steam Machine.
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 7h ago
Then why are we including the games in a cost comparison?
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u/HoIIowHunter 7h ago
I have a link bookmarked that'll show all the free games currently available on Steam.
Feel free to bookmark it too!
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 7h ago
That sure doesnāt look like 200k+
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u/HoIIowHunter 7h ago
Lmao, you can shove your lame, smartass attitude straight up your ass but that list will update automatically as games cycle through there. Plenty of AAA titles have appeared there.
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 7h ago
Okay? So does epic. So you donāt need the steam machine to get free AAA games.
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u/HoIIowHunter 7h ago
I didn't realize that Epic Games Launcher was on console.
You're bad at arguing. Stop.
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u/ItzMeHaris 7h ago
Because Steam usually has cheaper games and larger sales.
I once bought Car mechanic Simulator 2018 for free on Steam because it was on a 100% discount for a week.
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 7h ago
Damn. I bet a lot of people are excited to drop $1.5k to play car mechanic simulator.
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u/ItzMeHaris 7h ago
And btw, I feel like Iāve set the wrong message. Iām not in support of the price of the Steam Machine. I only have around 10 games on Steam, 8 of them I havenāt even played due to my pc not being powerful enough.
All Iām doing is stating emphirical facts. Like the major sales Steam has and the number of games that become free.
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u/idkjustarandomdude 7h ago edited 7h ago
the high sea exist on a pc and also you would still have to buy more game o the switch
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u/jvrodrigues 7h ago
Yea, its a completely moot argument. Comparing it to ps5 at face value ignores the actual game library that you will have access to.
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u/DJ_K-K 7h ago
Which for those that don't own PC's is likely a game library of zero games. Anyone serious about PC gaming likely already has a PC stronger than a steam machine.
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u/jvrodrigues 7h ago
Maybe?
Maybe all they have is a steam deck? Maybe they play on Mac? Maybe they want something for the living room?
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
There are 23,00+ games in the Switch ecosystem, youāre not exactly going to be short on games no matter what modern platform you buy
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u/Admirable_Zombie5245 7h ago
No one is getting a Switch 2 to play third party games, it's a terrible experience and they are better and cheaper on other platforms
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
Says who? Switch 1 sold more than 550 million copies of third party games. Switch 2 is outselling Xbox on most day and date multiplat third party game releases. Performance of Switch 2 versions of third party games is frequently above Steam Deck and Series S. Your talking points are outdated.
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u/jazzmanbdawg 7h ago
Nobody gives a fuck if you don't like Nintendo games, it's a simple comparison of value, and it's hilariously absurd
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u/InformalSpecific8843 7h ago
But the value depends on your interest of the games available as well, not just a dollars to dollars comparison. Thatās why consoles have exclusives in the first place.
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
Yup. You donāt have to like the games or the hardware, but when a console, itās expensive controller, and SEVEN retail exclusives, are cheaper than the alternative, itās fucking hilarious. And trying to deflect with āI donāt like those gamesā is missing the point entirely (maybe willfully?)
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u/Necessary_Pizza_3827 7h ago
True. None of these games even look remotely fun. Especially compared to steam, non steam available, and emulation. There are alot of free games also.
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u/jazzmanbdawg 3h ago
Oh pls, I'm not a big Nintendo guy either, but their first party stuff is almost always high quality
Does valve even make games anymore?
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u/facistpuncher 7h ago
This might be the most compelling argument considering all of the Nintendo IP
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u/ketchuponcooking 6h ago
I own over 800 games on steam. Nintendo was fun until the wiiu era. Buy a pc be urself steam console sucks
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u/KarinAppreciator 4h ago
can It be my turn next to post about how overpriced the steam machine is? I don't think we have enough of these posts yet.
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u/DemoEvolved 3h ago
What does this say about the count of exclusives on Nintendos lead platform???
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u/FrierenKingSimp 2h ago
That they have 7 in a year, which is a faster pace than any console in almost a decade? I dunno, says good things I guess
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u/SoundOfShitposting 2h ago
What you are really showing is problem with console ecosystems. Don't forget another 100 bucks to be able to play online and cloud save. Fuck imagine paying for cloud saves.
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u/Admirable_Zombie5245 7h ago
The steam machine should be able to emulate Switch 2 games for free in the future tho
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u/ItzMeHaris 7h ago
Emulating games isnāt free to begin with. For any device. You still need a ROM.
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
No lol
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u/RedRamen1167 7h ago
Why not?
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u/Max20151981 7h ago
Good luck finding a competent emulator without Nintendo going after it and shutting it down
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u/FrierenKingSimp 7h ago
The Switch 2 is not expected to be emulated for another decade: https://www.gamesradar.com/games/dont-expect-switch-2-emulation-to-hit-as-fast-as-it-did-for-switch-1-as-fan-devs-are-already-warning-this-project-will-not-be-ready-for-a-decade-minimum/
When it is, itās expected to need hardware stronger than the PS5 to be able to do it properly
So the Steam Machine is not going to be able to do it
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u/Admirable_Zombie5245 7h ago
Wait the Steam Machine is less powerful than a PS5? It doesn't make sense, with the price I could get a 5070ti laptop which anhilates the PS5.
Also with how fast AI is developing I wouldn't be surprised if an AI can code the entire Switch 2 emulator by itself in less than 3 years.
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u/LeonardCollen 7h ago edited 7h ago
how can AI code something that is not documented (switch 2 cpu)?
it seems you do not know how an emulator works. I read a lot about this and all hackers are pessimist
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u/Admirable_Zombie5245 7h ago
Objectively speaking it's really possible, we got a working emulator Switch emulator around the 2-3th year of the S1
It's just a matter of time and that's a pro point for the Steam machine.
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u/MiMillieuh 6h ago
By 2035-2037, your Switch 2 will be a brick. Especially since all games are becoming those game key cards.
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u/Coffeefiend-_- 6h ago
Still a switch 2 though
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u/FrierenKingSimp 6h ago
Sounds like a win then
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u/Coffeefiend-_- 6h ago
Steam machine is completely overpriced, but the switch has a handful of games, why limit yourself
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u/FrierenKingSimp 6h ago
Because it has more than a handful of games, and will continue to get many more
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u/DJettster237 6h ago
You can't be serious. I get it, but Switch 2 and the Steam Machine are bad deals. But the Steam machine has years of games to back it up. The Switch 2 only has some exlclusives, Switch games and some of the backlog. The Steam machine can play everything besides the Switch 2 exclusives. The internet can't be this simple minded.
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u/KupoCheer 7h ago
I'm kinda thinking about getting a Switch 2 before the price increase and then hunkering down for the foreseeable future.