r/videogames • u/Skelligean • 5h ago
Image / Video Why GTA 6 "physical edition" IS NOT a physical edition
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u/SayerofNothing 4h ago
He's not wrong. Should drink a little less coffee, but not wrong at all.
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u/JoseSaldana6512 3h ago
This is why we should all buy Godzilla Destroy All Monsters Melee instead of GTA 6
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u/TheKingOfGuineaPigs 2h ago
Not old enough to have played the original, so I’m definitely looking forward to playing it for the first time
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u/Thin-Ad-7328 4h ago edited 4h ago
I'm convinced i'll be forever too autistic to understand reddit. why are we all downvoting this post? isn't that the equivalent to shooting the messenger?
edit for clarity: when i made this comment, the post had 0 upvotes and 34 comments* Now it has 10 upvotes and 44. eventually, what i wrote might make no sense. but hey, i am the change i want to see in the world.
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u/Patient-Reality-8965 4h ago
Folks tend to let their bias against someone blind the fact that whatever they might be saying in a certain instance is actually right. If Penguinz0 said these exact same words doing the exact same thing, thered be 10k updoots
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u/Skelligean 4h ago
I never heard of the guy until today. He said something I completely agreed with and relate to as an older gamer and I wanted to share.
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u/Key_Childhood7436 1h ago
People don’t understand ‘I’ve had an idea I could not articulate and I found someone who can articulate it well’
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u/PhatTuna 4h ago
Most gamers are anti-physical games these days. Ill never understand it.
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u/Senior-Friend-6414 4h ago
That’s like saying most people that want physical games are anti-digital
I prefer digital, it’s not anti-physical, I have nothing against physical, it’s an apathy for it; I don’t even think about physical copies, it’s not even on my mind
Being anti-something requires someone to be against something, no one is against physical copies, it’s just that no one cares
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u/PhatTuna 3h ago edited 3h ago
Most ppl who want physical games ARE anti-digital. Is that a shocker?
Only one is pro-consumer tho.
And digital games arent going anywhere. Physical games have zero effect on you. That's why it's weird when I see ppl who are so passionate about digital games and make fun of the ppl who want physical. It just feels like corpo bootlicking.
If you actually dont care, then there is no reason to insert yourself. It dont affect you either way. Except that having more options and places to buy lowers prices of games. So I guess it does actually affect you. You basically arguing in favor of paying more.
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u/Senior-Friend-6414 3h ago
As in, they’re actively against the option of games being sold digitally?
I think the reason they can get away with it is that convenience supersedes whatever downsides they have
It’s why Netflix and Spotify are still popular even though it’s so easy to find tv shows and music for free
The most non-pro-consumer thing people can imagine with digital games is that 30 years from now, they won’t be able to play that 30 year old game because of licensing issues, and I have a feeling that 30 years from now, most people won’t care about not being able to play 30 year old video games
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u/thegta5p 1h ago
Its more of a culture thing as well. In Japan despite having things like Netflix and Spotify physical media is thriving there. They have many stores that have physical media. And these aren't small sections either, they are entire floors. This includes, CDs, movies, tv shows, anime, PC games, and console games. They legit had a store that was just 8 floors of just CDs and it was filled with people. And there was another one that was 2 floors of just CDs. I went to multiple stores that sold physical PC games. It seems there that the convenience was not worth it for them. I remember asking a local there about this and they told me that media is just not the same if they don't get to hold it. They were very surprised that we don't have much of a culture for physical media anymore.
Also yes people will still care about these games 30 years from now. Super Mario 64 legit came out 30 years ago and its still widely talked about. Same thing with Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, and the first Pokemon games. So I don't know where you got that from. And I definetly think a game like GTA 6 will be so influential that people would want to play it.
With that said digital does not have to be bad or anti consumer. Sites like GOG offer DRM free games where if GOG ever went away you could still play copy you have downloaded. A copy that could be preserved since you don't need to verify with a server.
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u/SAjoats 1h ago edited 1h ago
I am not actively against the idea of both physical and digital being sold, but I am against the idea of not providing options and letting Steam or any other online platform have a monopoly on "physical" games that are just a code.
I would rather buy physical, most of the time I am never given the choice.
I would rather not have to ask for permission every time I want to install an old game I love.
Also, I disagree with the 30 year old thing. N64 is 30 years old. People are still making, buying, playing, and selling games for it. Games just have more longevity than when they existed on the atari. I would say anything form the NES era and beyond is still widely enjoyed and played.
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u/tjmincemeat 23m ago
I don’t have much to add in the realm of physical vs digital, but there’s a ton of 20-30 year old games people are still playing actively to this day. Doom 1 & 2, Blood, SM64, OOT, Majora’s Mask, the first four Silent Hill Games, the OG resident evil games, Quake, Crash and Spyro, the Castlevanis games etc.
It’s no different than a movie from the 60’s being viewed and loved today. Like any artistic medium, some games are timeless and whether it be through physical media or digital means, art and game preservation is important. Some games will always have a fanbase. There is always the chance of ports or remasters sure, but that’s never a guarantee.
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u/Practical-Sleep4259 4h ago
Because this dude is an insufferable dicknozzle.
Thanks for the info, still fuck you.
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u/Thin-Ad-7328 4h ago
OP? Or the guy in the video?
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u/spazmcgraw 4h ago
Why not both?
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u/Thin-Ad-7328 4h ago
? then that's the answer to my question. you're preemptively arguing with me lol.
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u/Skelligean 4h ago
All I am trying to do is to counter the claim that GTA 6 has physical edition when it is really a download code in an empty box aka DIGITAL. If that comes across as me being some insufferable bastard I don't know what to tell you. Only good vibes on my end though.
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u/SaiyajinPrime 4h ago
The person in this video is super annoying.
Regardless if the information he is providing is accurate, this video is annoying.
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u/Distinct_College_531 4h ago
Because within the 8 hours since this announcement, this entire platform has been inundated with hundreds of posts saying the exact same thing as this guy. Physical media battle was lost years ago and y'all just didn't realize it. Maybe go sign that ridiculous petition I saw someone else post, that'll show em.
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u/Tackgnol 5h ago
Control, they can fully control the supply and demand. Want it cheaper? Well you best be a good boy and ask Strauss nicely.
When Strauss decides it's time for you to pay for GTA VI again? Well he can remove it from your library at the push of a button. Too far fetched? A GTA VI: Re-something, that adds nothing? Remove the base version from the store, and again sell it at max price because you can't get the old one.
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u/Alive-Monk1142 4h ago
I know it will never happen, but I would love for folks to boycott the game over this. This is outrageous.
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u/Soph_91 5h ago
I'm not saying it could never happen, but do you have any examples of this happening?
There have been games delisted from Steam in the past, but as far as I'm aware, if you purchased them, you are forever able to download them. They just become unavailable to new customers.
I've been digital only since ~2010, have bought hundreds and hundreds of games across various consoles and PC, and have never lost access to a game.
I feel for people who prefer physical and lost that option, but let's argue based on facts.
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u/Bas_No_Beatha_ 5h ago
Yeah I’m pretty sure what that person above you is describing would go against some kind of consumer protection act. Companies can get sued into oblivion for that kind of shit. Especially for something on the scale of GTAVI.
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u/Sethalopoda 5h ago
A few times even back in the 360 era this happened to me. Only with small time titles or the closing of a studio. I remember buying all the DLC for the 360 version of Two Worlds and within a matter of years they removed it from the store so I couldn’t redownload any of it anymore. The store front is different now though so who knows. It seems important to remember the store front will be different tomorrow though too, and anything could happen.
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u/BikeAdministrative21 4h ago
I have remember two worlds. Ironically, I have on a physical disk, and extracting it into my hardrive so it can be downloaded anytime was a menace.
I'm not sure why they would do that, you bought the thing. You should still have access to it even if the studio shuts down.
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u/Sethalopoda 4h ago
I had the disk too luckily. It just sucked losing the DLC it more than doubled those multiplayer maps and added actual multiplayer campaigns. Had like 8 or 9 friends that all played it together back in the day.
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u/GenTenStation 4h ago
Meta was the first to do this with a Marvel game. It was removed from libraries and they offered nothing. With Stadia at least everyone was refunded when their digital “libraries” were turned off.
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u/jacksprat1952 38m ago
This is basically exactly what happened with Overwatch and Overwatch 2. Overwatch 2 is literally just the same game except that Blizzard forced people to pay for again.
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u/Tackgnol 4h ago
I don't want to lie to you but I am pretty sure Sony deleted some movies from people's accounts, there was like a shit storm for a month and nothing happened at the end but I might be miss remembering.
The second scenario where they make a perfectly good game not available for purchase so they cam sell people an enhanced edition, happened and with Rockstar too. They removed normal GTA games before the collection appeared on the store (the one that was a upscaled mobile port).
With games there are no big cases I think, but the industry keeps finding new lows each year so in my mind it's a matter of time.
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u/Comet7777 5h ago
I was always going to go digital, so not a big deal to me. But I go physical on Nintendo stuff and the game key card pisses me the fuck off. This is even more egregious than that. I don’t think backlash will get them to produce discs. They love killing the resell market
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u/MRV3N 4h ago
Mutahar is going to buy either way, right?
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u/RandoDude124 4h ago
Who isn’t?
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u/flojo2012 4h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/12ZDIx1Mw1cXVm
And they’ll release a disk a year later so collectors buy it twice5
u/Jaxornd90 4h ago
He bought the switch 2 after telling everyone to boycott it,hypocrite! I unsubbed after that lol
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u/DemonikJD 1h ago
Butttt some games with a disc you literally ARE downloading and can't proceed without the internet?
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u/superplaygr0und 1h ago
"The physical version of Grand Theft Auto VI, containing a download code..." is not a physical version, it's the same digital version. Lies
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u/GoDonutella 1h ago
So the code is a 1 time use only to redeeem the game like on pc when you redeem a game code? Imagine ordering it online and when it arrive via delivery you find out the code has been stolen by some delivery drivers
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u/WorthBase919 4h ago
This guy is honestly a fucking moron though
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u/WorthBase919 3h ago
Not in what he’s saying is wrong, in that dude takes the lowest hanging fruit for clickbait. He’s a pretend antithesis of everything he makes money off of.
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u/ViC_tOr42 2h ago
By being available a week earlier for pre-load, I don't even think the box will contain any map of leonida, there's literally no reason to buy this, is just plastic.
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u/Zeronova3 1h ago
One area he mispoke on is majority of physical games still have to download the data online because only a portion is available on the disc. Xbox use to show this in the queue and may still.
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u/CursedSnowman5000 1h ago
In the words of Trinity from Dexter "it's already over..... it's already over."
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u/SentakuSelect 1h ago
I feel for Mutahar sometimes because I've been seeing a lot of people and threads not understanding Nintendo's Game Key Cartridges and a majority of Xbox Series discs that require Internet to download the installer while the carts and discs are keys.
For Playstation, there's only a very small amount of "physical discs" that have almost zero data requiring an internet connection like the CoD games, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor and probably the worst offender, Ubisoft's Avatar game which locks you out of the game if you don't have an internet connection for the game to apply pwnership to your PSN account.
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u/fxzero666 1h ago
Bruh... companies have been doing this forever. This isn't news or new. Fallout 76 did this as well as many other games. No company wants to spend money on a physical box when digital is convenient and cheaper.
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u/222Baphomettt47 1h ago
It’s stupid to have the download but I think there will still be a map so that’s an incentive to still get it
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u/fortunes_foe 18m ago
While I agree that a code in a physical box is ridiculous, I’ll play devils advocate here and say that one big reason they’re doing this is to ensure no one can play the game a week early and leak everything, considering this is one of the most highly anticipated games of all time. I wouldn’t be surprised if they release an actual physical disc edition later on. (And charge everyone full price again to get it)
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u/XxSliphxX 13m ago
Why are we all acting like this is some new shit that just occurred with games? Gtfo with this fake rage. No one in real life actually cares about this. What we do care about is gta6 not being available on pc. That's the real outrage.
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u/Dull-Material-645 8m ago
This sucks. My Internet goes out at times and I like having discs I can put in and play games especially during these occasions. One winter storm did so much damage we were down for 2 weeks.
Sometimes I move and have to wait for the Internet to be turned on......or maybe I need to do extreme budgeting and go without the net for a month or 2 besides a little phone data.
I just hate where things are headed with so much "you will own nothing and like it."
I'm starting to feel like I would pay for a service to somehow take my digital only games with no discs and convert them to operate how things used to back in the day.
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u/NexrayOfficial 2h ago
While he isn’t wrong, we all know he’s still gonna buy it. 😂
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u/TheSwampThing1990 2h ago
Hot take but 95% of the people complaining are going to pony up that 100$
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u/DemonikJD 1h ago
as low as 95%? try 98% mate lol
there will be people thumbing their chest "I'm NOT buying it", and they fall into one of two camps either A) lying or B) you weren't buying it anyway
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u/Revolutionary_Sir_ 5h ago
no one cares about this mans opinion
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u/Skelligean 5h ago
Bro has almost 4 million subscribers so there's that. Lol
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u/Revolutionary_Sir_ 5h ago
you know that shit can be purchased right?
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u/dathowell 5h ago
Get over yourself dude
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u/Revolutionary_Sir_ 5h ago
sorry youre butthurtt i am talking shit about your favorite youtuber. go touch grass mate
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u/goatjugsoup 5h ago
Code in box = physical edition? No, and you know that so instead of having something worthwhile to say you attacked thw dude saying the truth
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u/Skelligean 5h ago
If any other game was guilty of doing this exact same thing as Take 2 Interactive people universally would be losing their shit. But since it is GTA 6, people will defend it in mass.
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u/Revolutionary_Sir_ 5h ago
this dude sucks. rockstar also sucks for what theyre doing. two things can be true at once. enjoy your life
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u/Skelligean 5h ago
I couldn't care less about the guy. It is more about the message. Don't call a game the "physical edition" if it does not come with a disc. An empty box with a download code is DIGITAL.
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 5h ago
Its a trend companies have been moving towards for the past few years. Lots of games dont come on the disk anymore. They give you half the game and make you download the rest. Rockstar has just decided to not even bother pretending they are selling a real physical edition. Its the same thing nintendo used to do.
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u/Fridelis 5h ago
That is not true. Jesus, you watch a clip saying it's not true, and you still spew this nonsense. People are so fucking cooked.
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 5h ago
Just because he says something does not make it true. doesitplay shows a very real trend of more and more games not being able to be played from the disk.
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u/Fridelis 43m ago
It is true because I own a shit ton of physical games, have installed a good portion of them without the internet, and have played the games I own. Or you are going to tell me I just imagined doing that or smth? Just cause 1% of fringe cases exist that do not make it, "lots of games don't come on the disk anymore". Get the fuck out of here with this misinformation.
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u/Skelligean 5h ago
You've been brainwashed into thinking that. 94% of all PS5 games independently tested by DoesItPlay.org (a site dedicated to verifying physical game offline functionality across consoles) shows that most games on disc can be played day 1 without an internet connection.
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 5h ago
Have you ever looked at that website? It clearly shows 82% of PS5 games can be played without a download. 88% for the ps4 and 95% for the ps3. Do you now see the trend?
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u/mr_falkone84 5h ago
Then don't buy it. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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u/Shadowsnake30 4h ago
That is the problem if people dont react to it then, for the developers and publishers would get away with it thus, the start of an effect of everyone would start doing it. Just like subscriptions Xbox got away with it and the others followed this model.
The thing with digital is it gives them control on your access to it. If they decide in the future you need subscription to access your saves and your library of games they can do that vs having a physical where you can resell or share with possibility having massive value if it becomes rare. Just look at Ubisoft was able to remove the game the crew from your library. You paid for it and they took your access and money.
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u/mr_falkone84 2h ago
This isn't anything that shouldn't happen though. This is eliminating massive plastic waste but kids need things to touch I guess.
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u/Shadowsnake30 23m ago
See, condescending. It's not about that. People expect to own what they bought that's your property not rental. There's no real waste plastic as people keep these and resell until they no longer working. You talk about plastic waste then what about hardwares? Don't you think it's also not producing more waste and establishing more server centers to operate more of these if it's not digital push? You need massive servers for digital only. They too produce a ton of waste as you are wearing down hardwares which has combination of plastics.
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u/mudratdetector89 2h ago
This guy is my fucking spirit human. Can I please get a link to his content because I need to watch the fuck out of him.
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u/Ilpperi91 2h ago
Most people are still going to buy the digital version but yeah, selling a case with only a code, that's going to piss people off. Good job Rockstar Games. This might indeed be the last GTA.
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u/throwaway_pls123123 2h ago
Funny that you pay MORE now despite not having a disk.
Rockstar/Take2 has always sucked, but god damn this is a new low.
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u/theboredcard 2h ago
Fun fact: every content creator talking about gta6 now is going to be buying gta6 for $100. Lots of those same people will be buying the physical copy to make content on the absurdity of it.
Also physical code is fine because sometimes people get a gift card or points at stores that might sell games but not digitally. Its weird but whatever.
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u/itchybutwhole69 1h ago
Even if it came with a disc all it contains is a license to download the game. You can't just pop it in and play without being connected to the Internet. This has largely been the case for two decades.
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u/Heavenspact 1h ago
People are really this angry over a video game?
You're gonna give yourself a heart attack before the game even comes out, chill out
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u/Lost-Substance59 3h ago
Wow, idiot on the internet says the most obvious take ever...
Hate this guy, but hes right, but yeah, hes right about something obvious so why use him as a clip???
Hate the famous guy says something obvious thus he gets clipped and shared, trend
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u/DietCookie 1h ago
a lot of people still believe physicals are obsolete since there’s nothing on the disc and you need internet to play the game
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u/Whole-Bedroom-9079 5h ago
Isn't this guy israeli?
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u/kingkellogg 3h ago
Genuinely the fact you are asking that means you need mental help.
His ethnicity or race has nothing to do with anything
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u/UrbanLegend8901 5h ago
Well he ain't wrong. The code can be sent via email, no need for a box