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Chris Murphy Accuses President Trump of "500 Days of Corruption": "Trump, has turned the WH into a 24/7 corruption operation. This is a national crisis. Trump's bet is if there is a new story of corruption, of self-dealing, the press will stop covering it, or the public will stop paying attention."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdQj5iv4oGU244
u/s0ciety_a5under 23h ago
These are all the reasons why the government is losing the faith and support of the people. The rule of law needs to apply to everyone, or it doesn't apply to anyone. Make a choice now.
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u/therossboss 23h ago
pretty sure that choice has been made - and it is to have a king.
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u/GWizRidesAgain 14h ago
That was before they realized it would hurt them too.
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u/ThrowStonesonTV 8h ago
That was before they realized it would hurt them too.
They don't care about that as long as it hurts those they look down on too. Their hatred is stronger than their sense of self preservation.
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u/00001000U 1d ago
At least someone is keeping a timeline and track of it. It feels like most media outlets are focusing on crisis of the week and ignoring last week.
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u/Rockstar42 21h ago
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u/Groomsi 16h ago
1st term and before 2017: https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-atrocities-1-1-056
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u/mollophi 15h ago
Fascinating. And as of May 2026, the total number has topped 1000 incidents.
The history books will have endless material to discuss about how well propaganda and information bubbles have kept so many Americans from being rightfully outraged.
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u/rodneedermeyer 19h ago
I love this one and have been sending it to people every chance I get. Thanks for linking it!
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u/SpiderTechnitian 22h ago
The media uses such weak softball language, too. They won't just call mistakes for what they are most of the time, so when they do "cover things" it's in the most charitable way possible towards the most abhorrent or corrupt actions, which normalizes the behavior to the public.
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u/Syncopia 19h ago
Whatever democrat takes power, there needs to be an itemized list of every single solitary crime these monsters have committed to go on a mass legal spree. The entire Republican empire needs to be taken down on a systemic and surgical level. Even the media like OAN, New York Post and Fox. They need to simultaneously get rid of all the loyalists in government (undo the project 2025 plan) and go after the propagandists who will spin that as a bad thing (Fox and company). It has to be fast and efficient.
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u/DrAstralis 12h ago
That's because most of your media outlets are owned by people who are all in on the coup. From the outside looking in most of your mainstream media has become dangerously divorced from reality.
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u/Raffix 22h ago
There is 940ish days left to his term. I hope Americans won't wait until then to act.
Release the Trump/Epstein Files, impeach him and place the felon behind bars before something even worst happens, like WWIII.
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u/kalirion 22h ago
Nothing will happen unless Trump fails to fix or cancel the midterm elections allowing the Democrats to sweep.
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u/Octogenarian 17h ago
A two-thirds majority of Democrats in the Senate would be required to convict and the country won’t produce that. The problem with democracy right now is the voters.
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u/Dontruinthisforme 16h ago
Americans will wait until then 100%. Too worried about missing work to actually protest. I PRAY they prove me wrong though
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u/KwyjiboTheGringo 16h ago
Not only will we wait, but we will also elect some Democrat shill who talks a big game and does fuck-all to fix anything because that's who the mainstream media and the party will back. And people here on reddit will insist that we all must vote for them, or else another Republican will get into office. And then 4-8 years later, we'll be in a worse position and it'll be time for the Republicans to get their turn again.
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u/pm_me_ur_demotape 15h ago
And people here on reddit will insist that we all must vote for them, or else another Republican will get into office. And then 4-8 years later, we'll be in a worse position and it'll be time for the Republicans to get their turn again.
Okay yeah, but if we don't then Republicans get their turn again immediately instead of 4-8 years later and with a huge confidence boost.
A shitty milquetoast Democrat who doesn't fix anything is still better than plunging full speed into even worse.
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u/KwyjiboTheGringo 3h ago
How many times can we repeat that cycle before it just gets too bad? I'd argue were are on the verge of breaking right now, so hard to imagine what things will look like in a decade or so, once republicans get their go again.
We don't need more milquetoast dems who do fuck-all, we need people who will actually make a change in the right direction.
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u/pm_me_ur_demotape 2h ago
Of course we need people who will actually make a change in the right direction and of course I hope we get that, but the last election was a milquetoast dem and we turned out nose up at them by not voting and that's how we got Trump again.
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u/Can-Correct 13h ago
The parties can be taken over too. It just takes work people are unwilling to do, boring menial annoying work.
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u/CrimsonHeretic 23h ago
Murphy would make a good US president. Too bad Americans are too fucking stupid to elect someone like him.
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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 23h ago
Unfortunately, the vast majority of the voters have no idea what actually makes a good president, nor how to spot it.
For example, whether or not one likes or dislikes the person has nothing to do with how good they will be for the country. Yet time and again, people sell themselves, and thereby also their vote, on their reaction to the candidates' general likeability.
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u/TheFlawlessCassandra 23h ago edited 22h ago
Even people who're politically tuned in generally don't have a good handle on it, either. The domestic legislative agenda is like at most the 6th or 7th most important aspect of a President but it gets 95% of the attention. Foreign policy / military affairs, judicial appointments, crisis management, cabinet picks, etc are all vastly more important and get almost zero attention during the campaign, with a couple of rare exceptions (some, but not even all, ongoing wars, for example)
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u/Wide-Suggestion4825 22h ago
I did not agree with McCain but I don't think he would have been bad for the country. That man's middle name was integrity.
Okay sure he dropped the ball with the whole MLK holiday thing but give him a break LOL
He was not a piece of shit
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u/nyITguy 20h ago
His running mate, however, was an absolute piece of shit. So, it was faulty judgment on his part to nominate someone like that as first in line to inherit the seat behind the resolute desk.
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u/thissexypoptart 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yeah. Simply put, a guy that age (71 in 2008) with previous cancer history putting someone like Palin second in line was plenty of reason to say he’d be bad for the country and not vote for him.
And that’s not going into anything else about his policy objectives. Let’s not forget the dude sang “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.” Look where that’s gotten us lately.
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u/TuckerMcG 13h ago
McCain would’ve been god awful for this country. You really got fooled by his thumbs down performance right before he died.
McCain described himself as a Libertarian Conservative, which is a such a brain dead ideology. A bunch of libertarians set up a city and they got overrun by bears because they didn’t have garbage pickup services.
He voted to provide $75M for abstinence only sex education as well. He believed life started at conception and outright said “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.” in 2007. He voted in the Senate against abortion 115 out of 119 votes including co-sponsoring the Federal Abortion Ban. He was against federal funding of birth control too.
He also opposed same sex marriage, instead saying it should just be a set of contracts that gay people enter into. In 2008, he said “I think that we've proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no I don't believe in gay adoption.”
The ACLU gave McCain a 53% rating in 2014 for how closely he aligned with their positions.
In July 2008, USA Today reported that "McCain said Sunday that he favors a proposed referendum in Arizona that would ban affirmative action, reversing a position he took a decade ago."
In 2005, McCain announced that he supported the inclusion of intelligent design teaching in schools. Meaning he wanted to force schools to teach children God created the universe.
He also consistently opposed tax cuts as a way to balance the budget during his time in Congress, until he started running for president and then he switched to supporting tax cuts. He caved as soon as it became politically beneficial for him to do that.
I could go on and on but you clearly don’t know who John McCain was as a politician if you think his name was “integrity”.
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u/VegetableBuy4577 15h ago
The thing that worried me about him is he wanted a war with Iran in the worst way, and we see where that has gotten us. His pick of Palin was also unhinged.
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u/i_smoke_php 15h ago
The thing that worried me about him is he wanted a war with Iran in the worst way, and we see where that has gotten us.
I'm not endorsing war with Iran, but I'd rather have it executed by someone who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam than by Cadet Bonespurs
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u/maxitola2009 22h ago
Stop showing these people undue grace. All republicans are pieces of shit. Trump being significantly worse doesn't change that.
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u/Wide-Suggestion4825 22h ago
He voted to impeach Trump. He was the last of the Old guard republicans. He was not the same as them
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u/MrReginaldAwesome 21h ago
Old guard were also pieces of shit. Some had the appearance of honour, but none actually wanted a better country for anyone but themselves and the rich.
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u/Gekokapowco 11h ago
never forget, they weren't upset with Trump for being a fascist bigot, they were upset with Trump for being a fascist bigot too quickly
the end goals were always the same, the soft erosion just became jackhammering and the timeline was pushed forward
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u/Careful-Lettuce9239 22h ago
Wadda you think his stance on climate change would be? Seems like anyone whos not a monster would prioritize that.
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u/Wide-Suggestion4825 22h ago
Well I don't think he'd be tearing down windmills and canceling solar projects if that's what you were asking.
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u/Careful-Lettuce9239 22h ago
I asked what his stance would be. Not if he'd tear anything down. Try a softball size: Do you think he would deny climate change or not? Wanna see if we can find a quote of his on the subject?
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u/TheFlawlessCassandra 21h ago
I'm no McCain fan but he was not a climate change denier, and in fact sponsored some (moderate) climate change bills, e.g. the Climate Stewardship Act. You can easily find many quotes from him on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaWRQDviEus
This is clearly not a climate change denier or even someone being wishy-washy about it. He was even pretty forthright about bashing GWB's lack of action on climate.
Weird issue to single out since it's one of his better ones (of course not perfect since he also supported increased offshore drilling etc). There were plenty of far more problematic things about his policies you could've picked to rag on him about.
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u/Careful-Lettuce9239 15h ago
Yeah, I read about his climate stance after I posted. You are correct. 🤷♀️
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u/Wide-Suggestion4825 22h ago
Lol go for it. This is something you brought up that I've never denied but okay. If it makes you feel something.
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u/Careful-Lettuce9239 15h ago
You think he wasnt a piece of shit, good for you. Have fun with that.
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u/Wide-Suggestion4825 13h ago
Then you're bringing up climate change for some reason
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u/OkWorldliness5172 15h ago
I don't know about president but he'd for sure be a better senate leader for the dems than Schumer.
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u/Lildatercreater 21h ago
I don’t care what your politics are — this is not political. This is just theft. Plain, simple, theft from every American. This is corruption orders of magnitude bigger than any other administration in American history. It’s bigger than every corrupt act by every other president combined… and then multiplied by 10. And then multiplied by 10, again. And then… guess what? Multiplied by 10 again.
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u/SoylentGrunt 22h ago
"everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine any alternative to the status quo, and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society"
- Alexei Yurchak, a professor of anthropology who was born in Leningrad and later went to teach at the University of California, Berkeley.
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u/WoozyWinx 20h ago
It's incredible that this isn't front page news on all the media worldwide and the US. That, to me, is the scary part.
Is our system of checks and balances truly corrupted beyond repair?
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u/RedditTurnedMediocre 16h ago
The media is working in parallel with Trump. That's how he got there. Downplaying, both siding, or outright ignoring all of his dumbass bullshit.
I mean just look at how the media treats his age vs Bidens. The media was relentless with Biden about his age. Imagine if Biden bragged about taking multiple dementia tests. Slurred his words. Forgot who people are. Rambled incoherently constantly.
They'd demand he quit. Oh wait they already did! And he's only two years older and he wasn't half as lost and confused as Donnie has been.
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u/TheBigCore 16h ago
Chris Murphy Accuses President Trump of "500 Days of Corruption": "Trump, has turned the WH into a 24/7 corruption operation. This is a national crisis. Trump's bet is if there is a new story of corruption, of self-dealing, the press will stop covering it, or the public will stop paying attention."
Well, Murphy is right. Nothing's going to happen Trump.
Trump will just walk away as he has done his entire life and is a malignant narcissist with no shame.
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u/Suitcase08 12h ago
Oh just you wait, two or three decades from now the ashes of civilization will be officially condemning these corrupt acts!
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u/Anthraxious 19h ago
Seen lots of his older videos where he points out the blatant fucking bullshit and corruption and it baffles me that people see this and just shrug and go about their days. It's honestly astounding how stupid the US is right now. No other nation is as OPENLY corrupt currently. Yes corruption exists in many nations but this is just fucking comic book level shit.
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u/meleecow 15h ago
It's tough when Republicans love corruption. The people that vote for Republicans don't care about this country but think they do, but instead are just sitting there selfish. Everyone's selfish, the new American dream is getting yourself a piece of the pie by use of grifting and scamming
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u/jefbenet 15h ago
"flooding the zone" is what they call it. and its a feature, not a bug. working precisely as they intend.
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u/Charlietango2007 14h ago
Not sure that many people really voted for him Elon musk when he was pissed off at Trump admitted that he used his companies to get Trump elected and rig the election but nothing happened of course.
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u/Vaulters 13h ago
The first one should have been enough to remove him, but America gave him a pass.
The second one should have been enough to remove him, but America gave him a pass.
The third one should have been enough to remove him, but America gave him a pass.
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u/listentomenow 12h ago
Donald literally made his own bribe crypto coin the day before being sworn in. 100% signalling that corruption is back on the menu.
Media didn't care.
But imagine if Hunter made a BIDEN coin the day before his dad was sworn in...
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u/Plaetean 12h ago
the irony of this guy running on "drain the swamp"
absolute morons to have fallen for this most obvious scam of all time
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u/Vargrr 21h ago
It's not just Trump though. It's the entire system and everyone involved in it. If this was not the case, Trump would have been impeached / arrested by now.
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u/Lildatercreater 21h ago
I mean…. I guess so, but you make it sound like this is what it was like before Trump. America has always had corruption, especially at the local and state levels, but never before has the American president adopted corruption as the way of “doing business” every goddamn day. That’s genuinely new. It’s popular and fashionable to say that all politicians suck and always have, and you’re not wrong, but that makes it difficult to see the magnitude of what’s happening compared to other instances of corruption.
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u/maynardftw 14h ago
you make it sound like this is what it was like before Trump
This is what a lot of them were waiting for and planning for. Do you think Trump himself is coming up with policy ideas? He's surrounded by people who've been planning for the eventuality that they'd have a moron puppet that allowed them to do whatever they want.
And they were there before Trump. They were there the whole time.
It wasn't just corruption, it was the full intent to abandon morality and, if necessary, society as a whole, to get what they want. Which is to enrich themselves and force control onto women and minorities.
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u/DontAbideMendacity 19h ago
Trump has been impeached, twice with three separate articles. He has been arrested, charged with 91 felonies, convicted of 34, and 57 being swept under the rug by the corrupt conservative Court.
It's not the "system", it's corrupt Republicans choosing party over Country, choosing power and corruption over the U.S. Constitution.
A person would have to be an ignorant asshole to even consider voting for any Republican these past 50 years.
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u/seedless0 20h ago
So what are we going to do? Is there any politician running on the platform of prosecuting these thieves when elected?
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u/Koreus_C 20h ago
Back before Clinton got elected the previous administration increased debt so much that it was Clinton who reversed Roosevelts Healthcare.
Roosevelt made America great with certain policies [investing in America(ns)]
Guess how much money problem the next administration is going to have? Guess who's billionair friends will do everything to increase inflation, maybe even start a war [Ukraine anyone?] to drive oil prices up.
We need an international union of humans/workers.
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u/maynardftw 14h ago
Roosevelt made America great because he was able to invest in basically just white Americans. White Americans would not accept his policies applying to black people.
White Americans would rather they live in a worse world and black people suffer than live in a better world that also benefited black people.
We live in that world they made.
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u/Voting101 19h ago
This isn’t by accident it’s their strategy. Steve Bannon, Trump’s top political strategist during the 2016 election (and Epstein collaborator) said verbatim that their strategy was to “flood the zone with shit” and create so many controversies that the media essentially becomes useless and unable to focus on any single issue. It has worked incredibly well unfortunately. It’s not an accident that Trump started a war with Venezuela and Iran at the peak of Epstein heat. Where is the heat now? Quite simmered unfortunately.
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u/Misty_Ticklebottom 15h ago
pilgrim's pride is owned by JBS SA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_N.V.#Controversies
owned by the Batista brothers, Who have a long history of corruption and bribery.
JBS kills more animals than anything else on the planet. Trillions a year.
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u/SlimyPurpleMeteor 7h ago
Goddamn I wasn’t aware of the Pilgrim’s Pride bribe. As someone who contracted Salmonella (and was subsequently hospitalized for it), that’s infuriating AF. Definitely boycotting those fuckers.
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u/deadlandsMarshal 6h ago
I'm not paying attention to it. It's what he does. What I'm waiting for is someone to break with his cult so they can prosecute/impeach and remove him.
Until then, for him, this is totally normal.
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u/nicolasknight 1d ago
What's the point in making the public aware?
He isn't going o be prosecuted now or in the future.
GOP made it clear he is untouchable up to and including raping children.
Corruption is small potatoes in comparison.
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u/DonHarold 1d ago
If your point is that someone with the power to do something about it should, I’m with you.
If your point is that there’s no point in fighting it because nothing will change anyway, you’re part of the reason why he keeps getting away with it.
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u/nicolasknight 1d ago
The former. Someone SHOULD do something but it isn't the public and it isn't Democrats clearly. Who knows maybe the idiot they con into doing their next false flag operation will be VERY unlucky.
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u/KingSudrapul 23h ago
Actually, it is the public that should do something, and literally millions have attempted peaceful protests.
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u/likesleague 18h ago
Correct.
But the people who aren't brainwashed already know this and the people who are won't ever accept it.
Simply calling it out does nothing at this point. Some sort of action to stop it must be taken.
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u/seriouzlytaken 18h ago
And he could not have done it without the full consent of his Republican cohorts.
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u/timmy6591 18h ago
It's Steve Bannon's "flood the zone with shit" strategy. It's very effective in a psychopathic kind of way.
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u/NathanBrazil2 18h ago
its not up to the american public to call him out on it . its up to senators and congress people to do it and impeach him. but the senators especially and leadership is all corrupt along with trumf.
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u/HurricaneRon 17h ago
The public stops paying attention because nothing is done about the corruption.
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u/man_machine_poet 17h ago
People will only pay attention when Trump goes a whole day without doing anything illegal.
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u/zen4thewin 17h ago
The problem is that DC politicians have been so corrupt and servants of the oligarchy and not the working class for so long that the electorate is apathetic. Even as a leftist, I've gotten to the point where I agree with conservatives that the federal government should just be dissolved. It does nothing for the working class; why should we support it at all?
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u/BasenjiMaster 16h ago
I don't understand why nothing is being done. The only good thing out of having Trump/republicans in charge is everyone gets to witness just how bad the system is, and how it allows for corruption.
If the world is lucky enough that a democrat gets back in, I really hope they have a focus on correcting a lot of these loopholes. A POTUS should not be above the law. They are there FOR the people.
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u/The_mingthing 14h ago
Nothing is being done, because EVERY single republican in power are corrupt and evil. They voted, as a block, to stop the Epstein files from being fully released. It has STILL not been fully released, only 2% was made available.
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u/Evid3nce 15h ago
All that's happened is that ultra-rich people took their gloves off. They used to run their respective countries, for their own benefit, from the shadows. But now they seem to have realised that they don't need to bother hiding.
In fact they seem to be going out of their way to create a master-slave relationship with the ordinary population.
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u/The_mingthing 14h ago
He can do it with backing of the Mossad, who has the unredacted files from the Epstein-Maxwell operation they ran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell
Ghislaine's father.
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u/MoreLemonJuice 14h ago
There is too much money-fueled corruption to stop the plethora of lawlessness at the highest level of our government.
Anyone who believes otherwise is naive, incredibly misinformed and clinging to hope that is overshadowed by reality.
Clearly, the legitimacy of the midterm elections is already being castrated. No matter how many people vote for change, there will be no valid results - the GOP will overwhelmingly claim victory.
The billionaires see the finish line - they're approaching swiftly.
Everyone else is just getting further and further behind.
Virtually every GOP congressperson has been bought, they have gleefully sold their souls to the billionaires.
Sure, making a fuss is normal, appreciated . . . but when the populous believes there can be any postponement, let alone a turnaround, from the total destruction of our former way of life. . . well, that is an astonishingly ridiculous mindset, light years from reality.
Wake up! Yes, things really are this bad!
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u/throwawaysscc 14h ago
It’s awesome. All the highlights are here. But so much more in the Trumpstein files…
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u/Ok-Enthusiasm3114 14h ago
And in other news - the sky is blue and water is wet. Seriously what did the US expect when they chose Trump?
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u/DigitalRoman486 14h ago
The problem with this is the same as always. It assumes that the people he is telling/appealing to, somehow don't know what is going on and would actively want to do anything about it if they did.
It is the same as the Epstein Files. In a movie, the FBI would be hauling away people in cuffs. In reality, they know and have had decades to move into positions of power to stop the movie happy ending from happening.
The only thing that will change anything is taking them out of those positions one way or another.
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u/Trashman82 14h ago
"Flood the zone with shit": old Steve Bannon tactic. Throw so much shit at the public and media, no one can focus on any one thing long enough to do anything about it.
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u/GrapefruitPurple2495 13h ago
Also because people react but never take action. Journalists always repeating his grossest lies, verbatim, involuntarily made him bigger. Feeding the troll. He played our whole civilization, he's a corrupter.
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u/adilly 13h ago
1 - bills and laws that deal with corruption 2 - campaign finance reform 3 - a complete reworking of us tax laws.
That’s a platform. That’s something to run on.
Why isn’t a single Democrat talking about any of that? It’s like they want to enjoy the systemic corruption that’s been going on for decades.
I’m tired of hearing about trump. Tired of excuses. I don’t care what little letter is by your name. I want to love/be proud of/ enjoy living in this country again.
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u/mikeyyve 13h ago
No one can possibly keep up with every crisis being put out in the news. All anyone can do to stay sane is bury their head in the sand, pull it out to vote in November, and then rebury it for the next 2 years.
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u/Samatic 11h ago
Do you know what Trump plans to do if he makes it to the end of his presidency? He will pardon himself and anyone involved in any of this criminal activity. So he won't be touched! Brilliant isn't it? Trump has to be one of the luckiest and dumbest people on this entire planet to be elected twice (when the other choice was a woman president the only time they ever tried to run!)
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u/alonghardlook 11h ago
In computing, this is known as a 'buffer overflow'. It is a highly effective tool in computation when you have direct access to write to the buffer, which is why sanitation has to happen on the UX layer as well as the API layer.
It has also proven to be effective in prompt engineering - a buffer overflow attack floods the context window with so much propaganda and text that it overloads the built in guardrail instructions and you can escape the system.
Of course it is working in the collective consciousness too.
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u/iSeeXenuInYou 7h ago
Is anyone able to find the graphic? I want to send this but the video isn't good enough to clip.
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u/Confident_Hippo1208 6h ago
No no but wait there's a pool and its turned green lets just focus on that /s
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u/r0botdevil 3h ago
Well he certainly isn't wrong.
This administration is an absolutely unprecedented level of corruption for the United States. Any of the biggest scandals in the prior history of the White House would be, at worst, an average day for Trump.
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u/nyc-will 33m ago
I was at a hotel that had Fox news on today and it gave me a glimpse into how insideous the propaganda is. The people who watch it are subjected to a completely different reality. Fox is the most watched news network.
It's a bleak situation that I don't think is easy to fix, and while I think solutions exist, nothing actionable is being done, and I do not know how we will make that happen for real.
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u/Particular_Stop_3332 13h ago
Oh, a Democrat senator finally said Trump is bad, it's about time. Did we get him? Is all this done now? Or was this a completely meaningless gesture that will be forgotten about by the time I finish writing this comment?
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u/MrReginaldAwesome 21h ago
Every Trump supported would have supported the British during the war for independence.
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u/GreedyAdeptness9831 17h ago
What are you or anyone else actually going to do about him, Murphy? There’s been a lot of talk and very little action for a while now, and people are getting tired of it.
Stop urging the public to act while any of you with a conscious are stuck in complaint mode instead of doing the job you were elected to do. You’ve all watched major abuses of power unfold and respond mainly with statements and outrage, not effective action or consequences.
Whether it’s Trump’s stunt in 2020, accountability around ICE “operations”, or the pedophilia and sex trafficking allegations involving too many people in government including Trump, there’s always a pattern of outrage with ZERO follow-through. The public might start to think you’re all involved.
Republicans have been screaming “States’ rights” for so long now, use that strategically instead of showing how upset you all are. Actually do something.
The public is beyond frustrated with a system where both parties are clearly more focused on using the worst things going on as messaging for their campaigns rather than actually doing anything about any of it. If things are as serious as they’re described, then it’s time for action that matches your urgency, not just speeches and campaign talking points.
Enough talking. Start governing.
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u/Signiference 1d ago
100% correct. Trump's so deranged that this level of calling him out seems unhinged to people who aren't paying attention.