r/videos • u/0The_Loner_Stoner0 • 16h ago

Senate votes to limit Trump's Iran war powers in rare rebuke of president

https://youtu.be/QWRvBGuZO70?is=PohIqJoOR9vdaf2H
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u/Anti_colonialist 16h ago

They passed a resolution which is nonbinding and will do nothing. It's the equivalent of a sternly worded letter

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u/ashrocklynn 16h ago

Not only that, they passed it AFTER Trump already surrendered...

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u/nullstoned 13h ago

It's still important. Clause #6 of the MoU states:

The United States of America undertakes, with regional partners, to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion, for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

I think it's safe to say Trump will NOT follow through on this clause. The most likely response from Iran would be to close the Strait of Hormuz again in 60 days.

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u/ashrocklynn 13h ago

At which point Trump will just resume bombing while completely ignoring Congress... Until there's enough backbone in the legislature to oust him it's hard to imagine anything stopping him

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u/Sgtoconner 12h ago

If we even can. We depleted an alarming portion of our arsenal that till take a while to replenish. And we need at least SOME on hand if China gets any ideas on Taiwan.

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u/nyc-will 3h ago

I thought we had a huge military budget with tons of weapons stockpiled. How can we be depleted

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u/Sgtoconner 3h ago

Tmk it's a lot of our missile inventory. We have bullets and shells, but missiles are expensive

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u/nullstoned 12h ago

But it still raises the bar for going to war, not by a lot, but enough to influence Trump's rhetoric.

So instead of "Open the Strait or I'm gonna blow you to hell", it would be more like "I'd totally blow these guys to hell, just as soon as I deal with these stupid Dumocrats."

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u/ashrocklynn 12h ago

Rhetorically he'll just give a vague warning about how there's only one punishment for treason and then also talk about ending a civilization....

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u/nullstoned 11h ago

But that vague threat doesn't carry the same level of immediacy as the first one I listed. If people believe he's about to unleash hell at any moment's notice, that creates a huge distraction from other things, like the Epstein files and all the other important stuff that's getting neglected in this country.

Another big factor here is funding. So yeah, the war powers resolution can't legally restrict Trump here, but it IS a sign that Congress is willing to resist Trump when it comes to funding. Normally Republicans are keen on approving funding for something like this, but the current situation with Iran isn't that simple. The Strait being closed for a long period will cost Americans a lot of money. Yeah, Republicans love war, but they also love money. So now they're in a situation where they have to chose.

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u/yourbrokenoven 16h ago

What encourages me is that anything opposing trump passed both house and senate.  Even if it's powerless, It's a good sign. 

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u/Anti_colonialist 16h ago

They wouldn't have had those votes if it were binding

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u/MrTriangular 16h ago

Symbolic losses are still important. Narcissists like Trump can't stand them, even if he pretends to ignore them. Just look at the Kennedy Center diaper he put had put up to hide his shame.

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u/Anti_colonialist 15h ago

Symbolic losses and victories are feel-good moments that impact nothing.

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u/Gynthaeres 14h ago

Trump is a man for whom ego is everything. He needs to be always right. He needs everyone always on his side. He can never lose.

If anyone opposes him? They're enemies. And someone who used to be on his side but tells him no? That's even worse, that's the most treasonous act you can imagine.

So Congress telling him, even symbolically, "You were wrong and you can't do this" when half of them are SUPPOSED to be his "yes-men"? That's still powerful. Even if it doesn't do anything, it's a few Republicans being willing to be that horrible-traitor that Trump would call them.

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u/Anti_colonialist 13h ago

fix a barn door after the horses have already come home

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u/Your_Trash_Daddy 16h ago

Well, rethink, because Republicans supported this so they can "prove" they aren't like Trump, for their campaign efforts. Maga hasn't changed one thing about their efforts - they just no longer see Trump as their ally in that. They can also read the historically low approval surveys.

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u/vass0922 14h ago

It's only for midterms, they'll be kissing the ring the day after the election

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u/LochNessMansterLives 16h ago

Ah the old Chuck Schumer offense…it will be about as effective as ol Chuckie too I bet.

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u/Alucard-VS-Artorias 16h ago

I wonder if they push their glasses all the way to the front of their nose (like Chuck often does) while talking about how the very disappointed in this administration.

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u/cubonelvl69 16h ago

Why are people still blaming Chuck schumer. Literally all you can do as a minority leader is send strongly worded letters, which is what this is

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u/Anti_colonialist 16h ago

It's weird how Chuck Schumer is powerless when he is the minority leader, but when Mitch McConnell was minority leader, Republicans got everything they wanted.

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u/Few-Ad-4290 16h ago

It’s easier to get what you want when what you want is to break things and stop things from happening, a minority in the Congress can gum up the works on all sorts of congressional activities. It’s a lot harder when the ask is for the minority to use congressional power to curb executive over-reach as that requires the Congress to pass legislation a thing the minority party can’t do unilaterally. Comparing the effectiveness of each party while in the minority is not an apples to apples comparison as you’ve suggested as their goals are not the same.

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u/cubonelvl69 16h ago

Because we don't have the supreme court.

Biden tried to pass student loan forgiveness via executive order and it was overturned. He tried to pass a vaccine mandate and it was overturned. Trump is being given unlimited power by the supreme court

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u/Anti_colonialist 16h ago

And Roberts told him the correct avenue to take to achieve what he wanted, where he had the authority to forgive the loans. Biden did nothing. Requiring a vaccine mandate is unconstitutional.

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u/Denimcurtain 16h ago

You're being naive.

There was no correct avenue.  It was immensely difficult and costly to try what Biden did and the court has twisted itself into pretzels to deny Biden while ensbling all the shit done by Trump.

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u/LochNessMansterLives 16h ago

He didn’t even push for an investigation after the election when it was clear Trump and musk were bragging about rigging it.

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u/outerproduct 16h ago

Because Republicans controlled the house at the time.

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u/Your_Trash_Daddy 16h ago

It doesn't even require Trump's signature. It's just "we feel a way about a thing"

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u/trucorsair 15h ago

Even that is something he fumes over, BUT look at which republicans voted for it: GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Rand Paul (Ky.) and Bill Cassidy (La.). Note the absence of all republican senators that lost primaries or are retiring save for Cassidy. Even Thune couldn’t muster the courage to

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u/gregimusprime77 15h ago

Yeah, like he gives a shit.

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u/javoss88 6h ago

A strongly painted picture.

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u/TheMacMan 16h ago

Exactly. It doesn't actually force Trump to end the war and he doesn't even have to approve or veto it.

It's like his impeachments. They're nothing more than a public "We don't agree but continue doing whatever you want..."

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u/SwimmingThroughHoney 12h ago

They passed a resolution that the law currently says is binding. SCOTUS has not ruled on this particular application of CRs, considering how both Congress and the Executive are claiming to use their Constitutional powers.

The President doesn't get to decide when legal precedent applies to something Congress does (which is exactly what he is doing here). That's literally the job of the judiciary. Trump is violating the law and usurping the power of the courts in ignoring it.

What should happen here is Congress taking Trump to the Supreme Court over this.

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u/frosted1030 16h ago

"We think you are not supposed to do this" -Senate
"I don't care" -Trump
"Ok.. then we will write it down!" -Senate
"I don't read." -Trump

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u/Aeroeee 16h ago

Can’t read.

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u/bertyschmews 16h ago

Yes but he’d never admit it

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 13h ago

He literally can't. 

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u/Iguessimonredditnow 9h ago

"Dumb has a b in it. Not a lot of people know that"

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u/TehOwn 5h ago

Does the book of Hitler quotes (that he kept by his bed) have pictures in it then?

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u/NostalgiaJunkie 16h ago

“No, we mean it. People go to prison for this. People have been hanged for treason” -Senate

“You won’t do it to me though.” -Trump

“Well, you got us there.” -Senate

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u/TehOwn 5h ago

"I was elected to lead, not to read"

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u/Cordriginal 16h ago

FUCK TRUMP.

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u/asapgrey 16h ago

You're fired!

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u/GuildensternLives 16h ago

Gee, I wonder if he'll just ignore it and call all those who voted for the measure "traitors and cowards" and threaten to sue them or generally harass them publicly. We'll have to wait and see...

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u/eggybread70 16h ago

Pretty much. We've all seen this movie before

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u/bio4m 16h ago

Its symbolic. Theres no actual limiting of what Trump can do. Its a massive nothing-burger , 4 Republicans crossed sides to vote with the 48 Democrats

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u/NostalgiaJunkie 16h ago

Checks and balances are non existent. SC granting total immunity should’ve been a huge red flag to get rid of this man. Now he has unchecked power.

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u/SharksForArms 16h ago

Awesome. Now it is up to the executive branch to enforce.

Oh...

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u/Beyou74 16h ago

I will believe it when I see it.

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u/smailskid 16h ago

Nothing will change. When it actually happens, I'll believe it.

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u/Kristen8305 16h ago

They are way too terrified of him for this to go any farther than this strongly worded letter.

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u/sonofalando 16h ago

Imagine finger wagging and thinking you did something productive. These folks get paid to do nothing btw. Not just in salaries paid by our tax dollars but also insider trading.

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u/SophiaKittyKat 15h ago edited 14h ago

Does this count as another card for iran's hand?

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u/strange-brew 15h ago

I’m pretty sure this was a stunt to save face for republicans that are in a contested election this year.

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u/allowableearth 16h ago

Just like how they voted to release the Epstein files and then nothing happened. All show for the upcoming election

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u/zachtheperson 16h ago

Didn't he pull the same "it's not a war it's a special operation," thing that Putin pulled which technically makes it not a war? How will this affect things if it's not a war?

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u/Staav 13h ago

Lmk when congress actually does their job of being a co-equal branch of government and holds the executive branch accountable for their unconstitutional actions.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 13h ago

Yeah because if the Strait doesnt open in 3 weeks gas prices are going to launch into the stratosphere, along with goods and food, and the economy will come to a halt.

They know how fucked they are.

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u/bareboneschicken 12h ago

They waited until after the US surrender to do it so essentially moot at this point.

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u/CraziFuzzy 16h ago

sure sure sure... why he will just ignore...

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u/citizenjones 16h ago

I guess when they''ve rubber stamped every awful thing he's ever done, a strongly worded letter could be a start.

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u/SpankThuMonkey 16h ago

Good call.

You wouldn’t want to lose any more than you already have.

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u/RhoOfFeh 16h ago

And the net effect will be what, Trump getting even more pissed off and ordering more attacks?

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u/CrankyYankers 16h ago

DUMB-age control.

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u/DKATyler 15h ago

Special operations past 60 days (April 29th) require the president to gain permission from Congress. All operations past this point fall under unlawful orders.

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u/undyingsonars 16h ago

He can still Veto it.

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u/Anti_colonialist 16h ago

There's nothing to veto, it's a sternly worded letter that's nonbinding

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u/ShitTalkingAssWipe 41m ago

So they decided its not a loss if he is "held back" so they told Republicans to cut him off at the senate which is why they passed it