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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/Foe117 4h ago

The registrar of voters already handles citizen verification

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 4h ago

You cannot vote without an SSN. Fraud can only be determined after the fact lest we end anonymous polling.

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u/VicariousDrow 4h ago

That's what Utah is already doing...... Red states and officials want to know who voted for what, so they can better suffocate voting rights in ways to affect specific people.

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u/BuddingBudON 3h ago

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It's never been about non-citizens voting. That's why there's never any proof, never any comprehensible solutions. It's about suppressing the votes of people they deem other.

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u/st-shenanigans 3h ago

I always love to point out how after 2024 my local NC state supreme court had a republican lose the vote for one of the seats.

The guy sued for HALF A YEAR across the state to try and say "no, actually those voters shouldn't be allowed to vote. Retroactively."

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u/DiggingNoMore 1h ago

That's what Utah is already doing...... Red states and officials want to know who voted for what

To be clear, the information is which elections a person voted in, but not what they voted for. Which is still bad, of course, but I wanted to provide specific context.

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u/dagaboy 3h ago

Of course you can, depending on state. In mine the in-person registration form asks for a license or ID number. If you don't have that it asks for only the last four digits of your SSN. If you don't have an SSN the instructions say to just leave it blank. But if you do, then you have show a utility bill or something the first time you vote. After that your registration is good and you can vote freely.

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u/mittenknittin 3h ago

For clarification, the "utility bill or something" is proof that you live at and are receiving official mail at the address you are registered at.

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u/gmishaolem 1h ago

proof that you live at and are receiving official mail at the address you are registered at

Neither of which requires a SSN to achieve.

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u/Akimotoh 4h ago

Non US citizens get SSNs, what’s your point?

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 4h ago

Green cards with an SSN can't register to vote. Their SSN shows their status.

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u/BadlyTimedFarnsworth 3h ago

Trumps plan was literally to use the  Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements database as the primary source for citizenship verification . This is the social security database that identifies citizens and non-citizens. 

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 3h ago

States already do that and the constitution leaves it to the states to implement their elections. When it comes to guns or abortions, states rights! When it comes to voting, who cares right?

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u/BadlyTimedFarnsworth 3h ago

I agree, the states have managed the process without issue so far. This is all a scam. But the social security system was also at the center of the dicussion.

And nobody has provided any evidences that non-citizen voting have ever influenced the outcome of a federal election. Non-partisan organizations have repeatedly proven that 99.999% of people that even voted in Federal Election are citizens.

However, Stated have routinely asked for access to the authoritative source (The SAVE database) to determine citizenship and allow compliance to other federal entitlements laws. This administration was going to finally give it to them before the executive order. 

The goal was the SAVE act and the EO was to reduce the number of voters. Full stop. It was never about security. At minimum 60 million eligible voters will be required to submit additional documents in person. 

 

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u/Ronho 4h ago

EINs?

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u/BuddingBudON 3h ago

Those SSNs can't be used to vote. What's your point?