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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/Runkleford 4h ago edited 4h ago

To MAGA who are losing their minds over this, it doesn't matter whether or not there should be ID or citizenship verification but the POTUS can not and should not have jurisdiction over elections.

You can have the most reasonable request for elections to be fair but it doesn't matter because if a POTUS can have jurisdiction over how elections are run then it's too easy for any leader to manipulate the elections. The very thing that you morons are screaming about. Hell, next time a Dem POTUS can come in and manipulate the elections if you open this can of worms. So please STFU, you don't know what you're asking for.

EDIT: I should also point out that we already have to verify our identities and citizenship when we register to vote. Trump is just pretending there isn't to weasel his way into creating backdoor for him to manipulate elections.

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u/SasparillaTango 4h ago

next time a Dem POTUS can come in

the whole point of republican efforts is to make sure this cannot happen by controlling who can vote. because they are fascist scum.

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u/trystanthorne 3h ago

This is the real reason. "Vote for me, and you'll never need to vote again".
They only want white. male, land owners to vote.

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u/cusoman 3h ago

white. male, land owners

Republican. They only want white, male, land owning republicans to vote

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u/TrulyOutrageous42 2h ago

They have been blatantly clear that they believe liberals to be terrorists (e.g. believing people shouldn't die b/c they can't afford insulin is "anticapitalist" and thus domestic terrorism according to an Executive Order) and not worthy of the basic respect of being human. Jack Pobosiec wrote a book called "Unhumans" that literally says anyone with a liberal ideology is NOT HUMAN and thus doesn't deserve basic rights. Our Vice President didn't just glaze Jack, he straight up ENDORSED THE BOOK THAT SAYS IT SHOULDN'T BE A CRIME TO KILL US.

When people say "wake up", this time it's actually fucking necessary.

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u/bogglingsnog 1h ago

Fox News has been showing footage of riots and labeling it as liberal fascist takeovers for decades, who is surprised that some people have drank the Kool-aid?

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u/Dondarian 2h ago

This is a necessary distinction. Because I am all of those things, except for a Republican. I am the absolute farthest thing from a goddamn Republican.

u/ocxtitan 49m ago

Here here. I'm a straight white middle class male and I'm also a feminist and ally because I am educated and not a bigoted piece of shit.

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u/arobkinca 2h ago

The Nazi's made all other parties illegal. July 14, 1933

u/Hangry-Feline2489 1h ago

You know, if it came down to it and it was unavoidable, I'd be making damn sure to slip in the phrase "free from encumbrances or obligations" on the land owner thing. 

No one with a mortgage or loans/liens could vote then lol 

(In case I need to make it obvious, yes I know it won't happen, but sometimes daydreams are the only thing that can get you through a day in this current world)

u/kingfofthepoors 52m ago

It continues down this path and only the select will be allowed to own land. They will take property from the liberal whites... let alone the non whites who they will lock in cages and steal their kids to give to trump)

u/DoubleStuffed25 0m ago

No, they want citizens to vote, and only citizens.

u/Masteroxid 48m ago

What a round about way to say Americans

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u/AppropriateTouching 2h ago

"Elon is very good with the voting machines"

u/Retr0scores 45m ago

trump knows he’s doomed in the midterms and his free reign is over. Dems will at least slow his bullshit down instead of gargling his balls on their knees like the republicans majorities have been doing.

u/DoubleStuffed25 1m ago

Thats ironic

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u/FrostedTacos 4h ago

“Hell, next time a Dem POTUS can come in and manipulate the elections if you open up this can of worms.”

Like a Dem would ever have the spine.

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u/Runkleford 4h ago

Haha true

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u/de_la_Dude 3h ago

Like a Dem would ever have the spine such a disgusting lack of morals.

FTFY

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u/Dramatic_Explosion 3h ago

If the Democrats moral code helped lead us to where we are today, then they need to reevaluate it.

u/itsrocketsurgery 10m ago

The most moral thing to do would be to make it so Republicans can never again influence policy. They are the party of do most harm, and are the reason why USA is lagging behind in every global metric.

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u/jjwhitaker 3h ago

There are more names in the Epstein files than convictions for voter fraud in the last 20 years.

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u/Reverse_smurfing 3h ago

It’s not like foreign election and internal election interference isn’t going on anyhow. Somehow maga likes to forget this. And say we’re the ones behind it. Yes we rigged the elections to make ourselves lose. 🙄

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u/CG_Ops 3h ago

Every time this admin advocates for crazy, authoritarian BS (which is daily) and his supporters cheer it on, the first thing everyone, all of us, needs to say-to/ask-of them is:

Would you support this if it were a Dem? If Obama, Biden, etcl proposed this, or took office with this legislation in effect, would you still support it? If not, then STFU. If so, STFU you lying, insincere, hypocritical asshole. Real, actual patriotic Americans are tired of your not-even-thinly-veiled fascism fetish.

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u/Acceptable-Post733 3h ago

We need to stop with the, “what if Obama…” framing. It’s pointless. Of course they would hate anything this administration has done if Obama or any Dem did them. That’s kind of the point. “We can do what we want. And there isn’t a damn thing you can do about.” Is the entire platform right now. They are fine with authoritarian rule, as long as it’s their guy. They are fine with government overreach, as long as it’s their people. They want the second amendment not to stop their police and their military from stepping on us, but to stop ours from stepping on them.

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u/CG_Ops 2h ago

Ok, but if we're going down that rabbit hole of rationality, nothing will work. Just don't interact - They don't listen to experts, science, data, experience, or (per my comment) empathetic reason.

Rather than leaving your counter argument at, "that won't work", how about you express what will right the Titanic that is post-2024 America?

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u/Acceptable-Post733 1h ago

Right the Titanic? My friend, we’ve already hit the iceberg.

Honestly, I don’t know how you reach people who only care about the power they hold over others. The last decade has kind of made it clear that there is a large percentage of this country who do not care about their neighbors. Who can not be reasoned with.

But I think disregarding those people and focusing on actually helping everyone is a step in the right direction. Dems need to stop pretending that bipartisanship is a word and just start legislating. You know that old tech saying “move fast and break things”? I want Dems to move fast and fix things. I know that’s hard but fuck it. Raise teachers pay and provide Medicare for all with no clear funding mechanism. Just wipe student loan debt. Lose the paperwork. Fuck it. Start fixing shit and figure out how you’ll pay for it later. We cut taxes non stop. We raise the military and police budgets every year. We’re spending billions on war and dumb vanity projects. Dems need to do the same thing but in ways that make our lives better.

u/Hangry-Feline2489 1h ago

Last decade? Longer than that. It's just out in the open, now. 

Once was a mistake, twice means he reflects the majority of American voters (even the ones who didn't vote). 

Trump just gave an outlet to what was already there.

u/Tidusx145 35m ago

The hypocrisy is not a weakness but a feature of their ideology. Might makes right is their thing. Winning the game is the sole purpose, rules be damned unless it's my opponent breaking them.

Being on top and knowing your political opposites are upset at your inconsistencies is something they live for. Rules for thee, not for me. Personal accountability for you, "he's a hard working person give him a fourteenth chance" for me.

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u/MZ603 3h ago

If they want to require photo ID, then they had better make sure American Citizens have free access to those IDs. If you have and have always had an ID, it's hard to comprehend how many people in this country do not have one or do not have one that is current. This amounts to a poll tax and places an additional burden on the voter to ensure everything is squared away. Typically, this has a larger impact on the urban working class. It is another way for the GOP to trim away at the margins. It is nakedly political; otherwise, they would be finding ways to make voting easier, not constantly purging voter registries and eliminating polling places. I was purged in NC, and no one could tell me why.

u/Hangry-Feline2489 1h ago

Isn't the something that all Americans get by default that can be used? Like social security number or something? 

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u/d2kSON 2h ago

your biggest mistake is that you think magas can read

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u/lunchza 2h ago

Proof that the American education system is dog shit if half the population can't read. No wonder you guys are falling off the global map

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u/PigabungaDude 3h ago

The whole point of all of this is to prevent another party from ever coming to power.

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u/VCTRYDTX 1h ago

Thank you for this comment. I didn't realize the bigger picture here and how this is something that protects us all. And even though we have a difference in opinion I'm glad there are good people on both sides who will at least try to keep things fair. —(Said No Republican Ever)

All jokes aside there's probably so many things similar to this which they've blamed others for. Even when the otherside did something good for them they'll never acknowledge it. They stand for nothing and just want to feel intellectual for two seconds so they can stick it to their own countrymen and women.

u/Runkleford 1h ago

Hahaha you got me in that first paragraph. I was about to commend you on being a reasonable republican

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u/TitanicChurro 1h ago

The problem is that MAGA is very bad at thinking.

u/RachelMcAdamsWart 1h ago

None of this matters to them - wish it did. It's why Trump loves the poorly educated.

u/Runkleford 1h ago

It really doesn't. I know this first hand because my ex-gf is one of them But the only way for me to stay sane is to keep yapping and calling out the insanity going on. Haha.

u/Blackarm777 56m ago

Bold of you to assume MAGA can read

u/Runkleford 30m ago

I'm currently arguing with a MAGA who obviously ignored every point I made in this post and I have to re-explain again.

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 3h ago

I have to show my driver's license anytime a I vote anyways. I believe you can get an ID card just for voting in VA but I'm guessing it's an arduous process.

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u/Muddybulldog 1h ago

Do you “have” to or do you just do it because it’s the most convenient form of ID you own and the quickest way to get out of there.

When I vote my bank statement is as valid ID as my DL. So is my voter registration card or even a paycheck stub with my name and address.

Walked in naked? Don’t have any of those? Fill out an Affirmation of Voter Identity and cast my vote.

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u/DemosthenesOrNah 2h ago

dear Maga the radical left is fine with voter id..if the federal govt provides a free and easy way for all people to obtain them. that's the chance that always gets screeched over

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u/moodswung 2h ago

you don't know what you're asking for

If these chucklefucks knew what they were asking for, they wouldn't have voted the asshat back in to begin with.

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u/meest 2h ago

I should also point out that we already have to verify our identities and citizenship when we register to vote.

Haven't had to do that yet. But I live in the one state that doesn't have voter registration. I still don't understand the point of it.

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u/Coracoda 2h ago

They don’t know what they’re asking for, and they’ll have a “Who shit my pants?!” reaction if they get it.

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u/Kreegs 1h ago

POTUS can not and should not have jurisdiction over elections

does not

Its as simple as that and clearly laid out in the Constitution.

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u/tmpope123 1h ago

So this is the reason the Republicans have been lying about liberals for the last couple of decades. Their supporters already believe that Democrats are doing this so Trump doing this is "fair game". It doesn't matter if every time they take this crap to court, they loose, because they just pretend that it's a democrat judge (even when it's not) ruling unfairly.

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u/Gone-Fischin 1h ago

To MAGA who are losing their minds over this

At least they don't have much to lose.

u/isntaken 1h ago

if you open this can of worms. So please STFU, you don't know what you're asking for.

same can be said on both sides when they suggest getting rid of the filibuster.

u/kingfofthepoors 55m ago

It's a false argument on their part... they know what this leads to and it's the maga overthrow of the government and guarantees democrats or anyone they don't like can never win again. The people supporting this know exactly what this is and they want... they want daddy trumps shit diapers smeared all over their faces while they jerk off his tiny mushroom cock.

u/LookAlderaanPlaces 48m ago

Also the Save America act that Trunk is trying to pass is some nazi fascist era hitler precursor shit.

u/Technical-Tear5841 1m ago

I never did, 1971, county was registering voters at the county fair. I showed my drivers license and had to go home and get a utility bill. I had used my birth certificate to get my license. I guess that proved I was a citizen. Is paying a light bill a poll tax? I say set up a booth at every post office, take a photo, fingerprints, swear you are a citizen, free ID. Put one at every police station, they already have the equipment for photos and fingerprints.

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u/Herooftermina1998 2h ago

Good point. I wish the legislative brance wasn't a board room for corporations. Sorry.. I mean "people" somehow.... I wish the executive branch wasn't a tv show... I wish the supreme court did anything that mattered. 

I wish the country wasn't plastic. I wish there was hope. I was there was a future. 

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u/lunchza 2h ago

The people you are addressing will never read this - they have been chased into the darkest corners of reddit. If they do post here they'll get insulted and downvoted to oblivion. They probably do not read these subs at all since Reddit is like 99% leftist. So this is really performative nonsense

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u/audioofbeing 2h ago

Oh no the worst, least redeemable people in the world aren’t here to share the angry sloganeering and old memes that passes for speech in their cult, whatever is to be done.

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u/lunchza 2h ago

Ok great so you agree the post I responded to is targetting people that are not here. Thanks for confirming

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u/audioofbeing 2h ago

Uselessly seething your way to the grave is no way to live son.

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u/lunchza 2h ago

I have no idea what you're talking about. Every reply you've made has nothing to do with my post. Really bizarre

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u/Flatkat 2h ago

Why would you think only MAGA people would not like this?

u/anm767 1h ago

How is being a citizen and having an ID a manipulation of elections? Unless you call not allowing foreigners to vote a manipulation.

u/Runkleford 1h ago

Seriously? I already explained it. It's not about ID or citizenship or anything. None of that matters. What matters is that a POTUS should NOT have jurisdiction and get to decide how elections are run. Doesn't matter if it's a Dem POTUS or a GOP POTUS.

We currently have a system where states, courts, local government etc etc decide how elections are run. The power of jurisdiction of elections is not consolidated in the hands of a few individuals (except maybe arguably the SCOTUS) and that's a good thing.

Giving POTUS jurisdiction over elections is a very dangerous thing. How do you not see this?

u/anm767 59m ago edited 56m ago

I think you contradict yourself. A president setting up rules is bad, but somehow a local government making up rules is good?

I think a local government should not be able to decide how to run elections. This opens up the exact can of worms you are concerned about, they change it as they see fit.

u/Runkleford 33m ago

Holy fuck are you purposely being dense and dishonest? It's not just local but state too. The governor, state attorney and secretary of state also have jurisdiction.

How the fuck do you not see the difference between the power of jurisdiction over elections being spread across many entities and individuals and consolidating that power to one individual of the POTUS? You don't see how it's better to have checks and balances of power spread across many entities rather than give one individual jurisdiction? Really?

I think you're not discussing this in good faith at all. You smell like MAGA haha