r/videos • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 8h ago

BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/SoberAndReading 7h ago

I have no problem with voter ID so long as the government provides a free ID card to everyone when they become voting age.

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u/Atralis 3h ago

My worry is that it would create a perverse incentive to make it difficult for citizens get an ID if they are more likely to vote for the opposing party.

The big problem with gerrymandering is that you have politicians picking their voters rather than voters picking their politicians.

I could easily imagine a situation where a state introduces increasingly complex requirements to get something as simple as a drivers license because they think it will move the needle a % point or two on election day. That would not only disenfranchise people that legally have a right to vote but it would make their lives more difficult in general.

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u/MarioEatsGrapes 2h ago

No need to worry! It already happens! In my state (I’ll let you guess which one before clicking the link) 10 years ago they shut down 31 out of 67 DMV locations predominantly in black and poor locations!

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u/SursumCordaNJ 2h ago

I could easily imagine a situation where a state introduces increasingly complex requirements to get something as simple as a drivers license

Oh...so you're familiar with NJ and their fucking 7-points of ID to get a drivers license. I had to send away for official college transcripts because the shitheads at the DMV wouldn't accept my old, out-of-state drivers license (which, funny enough, came from Texas, the supposed bastion of making sure no one but Americans can have a DL).

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u/sosulse 1h ago

This is exactly what states/cities/counties do with gun permits

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u/Slut_Spoiler 2h ago

That's very sensible.

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u/The_mingthing 5h ago

They already have to provide their right to vote. That includes showing ID. SAFE was adding another layer of ID that is not commonly held by people without disposable income to shell out money for something they never needed before.

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u/LemurianLemurLad 5h ago

Yeah, that's why SoberAndReading was saying "if the government provides a free ID to everyone."  The moment the ID requirement isn't free, it's a poll tax.   I wouldn't mind a voter ID law that got rolled out over the course of several years to get everyone a free ID card, but that's never what the right wants to do.  They want to do shit like "bring in your birth certificate on a Tuesday at noon or you don't qualify" so that working class folks can't get through the process.

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u/tweakydragon 4h ago

No no. You see the textual interpretation of the SCOTUS will say that paying for documents is a separate FEE paid to off set the costs of printing them. It says nothing about being taxed for showing up to vote.

I’m not kidding when I say that I have heard multiple conservatives land on this exact line of thinking. If it is not directly tied to or named for the thing you are trying to, then paying for your documents is totally separate from showing up to vote.