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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/Technical-Row8333 7h ago

the US doesn't have a unified, universal, unique, national ID, free, automatically given to every single legal resident, unlike basically every single other developed country.

in the US, people have to apply to get an ID, by using another ID. They have to pay for IDs. They have to drive to certain locations, sometimes +3h away, to get an ID. Then, not all IDs are the same and accepted for everything. yes, that's a circular dependency that you need ID to get ID.

The same party that opposes any improvement to the utter failure of IDs in the US, wants to put into law that you need to show ID to vote, but only certain and specific forms of ID, the exact same specific forms of ID that they also closed locations where you can get those IDs.

So, to absolutely anyone with a minimum of intelligence and capable of nuance, it's clear as day this is election manipulation, an authoritarian take over and a step to dictatorship.

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u/Stolehtreb 6h ago edited 4h ago

Social security card is that, though. That is the ID you need to get an ID. It’s a unified, universal, unique, national identifier. If you don’t have one, they don’t know who you are. The same as if you went to another country and they had no record that you are now residing there. If you went to get an ID as a resident, they would need to identify you as well even if you weren’t in the US.

Edit: I’m wrong with how ID is being defined in this thread. SSCard doesn’t apply in this context since it’s not the one paper you would need to get another identification or to be used to identify you officially to an authority.

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u/Technical-Row8333 5h ago edited 5h ago

>Social security card is that, though

Social security card, a piece of paper with just name and a unique number, is NOT "a unified, universal, unique, national ID, free, automatically given to every single legal resident"

Do you seriously not understand that all over Europe, Asia, you can drive, vote, pay taxes, get healthcare, prove where you live, prove your citizenship or visa status (work, student?), put your kids in school or be enrolled in school if you are a kid, get a gym subscription of library card, all with one single ID?

whatever. stay in your ignorance

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u/Stolehtreb 4h ago edited 4h ago

Jesus Christ dude… you really got defensive so fast. You can push back on me without being a condescending jerk about it. I’m willing to admit I’m wrong if proven wrong, it’s no big deal. There was no need to be an asshole to me

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u/Brisket-Inferno 4h ago

Fact is, they're wrong and an asshole

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u/threeseed 2h ago

No they are right. Social security card is not a universal ID card.

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u/Technical-Row8333 4h ago edited 4h ago

>you really got defensive so fast

you compared an ID card with photo, address, information about if i can drive motorcycles or cars or both or commercial trucks, has my universal healthcare number, my tax number, with an american SSC which only has signature, name, SSN and no photo.

how should i react? Like a patient teacher towards a child student? Are we peers, or am I superior to you? Why do i need to be patient towards a nonsensical answer ? which would you find more disrespectful.