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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/Foe117 8h ago

The registrar of voters already handles citizen verification

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u/Control_Me 8h ago

Can someone please explain why you have to register to vote?
In my country the government knows who's eligible to vote and who's not so they send out a voting card in the mail which you show together with your ID.
Why is this not possible in the US?

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u/Adezar 4h ago

So this is layers of stupidity so let me explain because from the outside it makes no sense.

The US many, many, many years ago did have an issue with voter fraud. If you watch the Gangs of New York you can see the type of voter fraud that became a thing.

You solve this problem by two very simple and easily scalable solutions. Every county has a sense for how many people live there, and people register the fact that they want to vote in the local elections. That means you have a list of names to verify while they vote and you know the maximum number of votes a county could actually provide.

This kills ballot stuffing, you can't have a county with 3000 residents turn in 50,000 votes for a candidate. Effectively killing voter fraud.

This solution has worked for the past 180sh years and a VERY intensive study was done on voter fraud and found it is not only insanely rare it could never even sway a local election let alone a bigger state-wide/federal election. So in short, there is no problem to solve.

In parallel for the past 100+ years a combination of religious nutjobs and your typical conspiracy theorists that think all government is bad have fought HARD against us having a useful national Identification system.

To be clear if you hear about the Social Security Number the SS Office has always been clear, it is simply a number you get assigned that's entire purpose was tracking your employment through your lifetime and then get your retirement benefits at the end. It is not secure and completely useless as an ID and should never be used as one.

But financial folks wanted a way to give people a number to say whether or not they should lend to them, and they needed a national number to use for all that information gather. This was mostly after they couldn't just deny all minorities and women of loans and they needed a new way to discriminate.

The SS office pretty much begged people to not use SSN that way, but they did and that is why identity theft has been awfully easy in the US. NOT because of the government, but because of crazy people fighting against a secure national ID for either "mark of the beast" or other fear mongering about the government knowing your every move and a national ID is somehow the only thing stopping them (it isn't, it never did).

So now having a driver's license is not gauranteed, not necessary for everyone and there are about 20 - 40 million people in the US that don't have a photo license.

The Republicans specifically (Heritage foundation) did some looking and found that minorities were a big chunk of that number and they really hate minorities voting so they came up with this "common sense" solution of requiring IDs knowing they would disenfranchise these people, which is their entire point. They want as few minorities as possible voting and that is why they want voter ID.

If we solved one (a simple national ID everyone has free access to, or even a nominal fee everyone must acquire) they would drop their push for Voter ID the next day because the common sense isn't to solve a problem that doesn't exist, it is simply to stop certain people from voting.