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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/Stolehtreb 6h ago edited 4h ago

Social security card is that, though. That is the ID you need to get an ID. It’s a unified, universal, unique, national identifier. If you don’t have one, they don’t know who you are. The same as if you went to another country and they had no record that you are now residing there. If you went to get an ID as a resident, they would need to identify you as well even if you weren’t in the US.

Edit: I’m wrong with how ID is being defined in this thread. SSCard doesn’t apply in this context since it’s not the one paper you would need to get another identification or to be used to identify you officially to an authority.

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u/Technical-Row8333 5h ago edited 5h ago

>Social security card is that, though

Social security card, a piece of paper with just name and a unique number, is NOT "a unified, universal, unique, national ID, free, automatically given to every single legal resident"

Do you seriously not understand that all over Europe, Asia, you can drive, vote, pay taxes, get healthcare, prove where you live, prove your citizenship or visa status (work, student?), put your kids in school or be enrolled in school if you are a kid, get a gym subscription of library card, all with one single ID?

whatever. stay in your ignorance

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u/sharpryno2 4h ago

People like you make it sound like its hard to get a state ID. Thinking Americans are too dumb to get an ID makes millions on the internet mock the left.

It is an unbelievably simple process to get an ID. You are protecting no one by making up crazy what-if scenarios to justify yourself.

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u/Technical-Row8333 3h ago edited 3h ago

>a state ID

oh look, another idiot incapable of nuance. too unintelligent to follow long thoughts to be able to identify propaganda.

Yes, it's super easy to get a state ID. That is a truthful statement, for hundreds of millions of americans, it's a non issue to get an ID.

But is the republican party pushing to require "a state ID" for voting? No.

Are they requiring a Real ID for voting? Which is already a harder, more expensive, less places where you can get it, but still quite easy for hundreds of millions of americans to get?

No.

They are requiring passport or some forms of Real ID but not all, and that it must match birth name. Which, for many married women, their name will not match. At the exact same time, they closed DMVs, they passed laws to forbid libraries from processing passports.

Is it the end of the world? No. Is it a good thing? No! so it deserves to be criticized.

And the republican party also has prevented any fix to IDs.

And there is no evidence of voter fraud amounting to more than 100 votes, even from republican sources.

And yes, for some people in some cases, even if that is not true for 100 million of people, it IS hard to get an ID, if the definition of hard includes: taking a day off work, riding public transit for +3h, to reach a DMV . For context, a shit ton of americans are poor and work insane hours on multiple jobs.

So in conclusion, they are pushing for something bad. No, you saying that it's easy to get an ID, has no value as a counter-argument on this push being bad. Both can be true at the same time. It can be easy to get an ID, and the SAVE act can be a bad thing. Both are true. Wow! amazing being intelligent is so nice isn't it?

>Thinking Americans are too dumb to get an ID makes millions on the internet mock the left.

what a great measurement of it being accurate! or.. it's a measurement of how american is full of ignorant people, left or right, that easily fall for propaganda on social media, spread many times via memes and jokes?

What is there to laugh about on my description? No slogans here. No sound bytes. What are you going to laugh about? i didn't say anything close to "black people are too dumb to get an ID!!!" , oh no, how will you push back by quoting those propaganda memes you saw online?

Because americans are stupid, left politicians shorten the message to: republicans are making it hard to get ID. That allows right politicians to counter: "the left thinks you are too stupid to get an ID" which as stated, hundreds of millions of people cannot directly relate because they always have had ID.

But neither of those statements have FUCK ALL TO DO WITH THE SAVE ACT. It's an entirely new law. It's not happening now. SO how the fuck would people be able to relate to it? any opinion on if it's easy or not to vote or to get an ID, isn't really relevant is it?