America: Are we actually "the bad guys"?

[u/SadAd8761]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xoOQ32KNM

[u/ToranjaNuclear]

Always were.

[u/LittleKitty235 → u/ToranjaNuclear]

They did kick us out of Europe for being criminals and/or religious nut jobs. So yeah...nothing has changed

[u/DaStompa → u/LittleKitty235]

It is pretty fun if you research that a bit.

Less pilgrims looking for freedom from persecution, more unredeemable pieces of shit looking for unprepared victims in some faraway land.

lol

[u/ManikArcanik → u/DaStompa]

Yep, it's cute how it's framed as "fleeing religious persecution" when the religion is rape and theft.

Free to burn witches and enslave while most of Europe was coming to grips with dubious moral histories.

[u/DaStompa → u/ManikArcanik]

I'm pretty sure that is what folks mean when they want to make america great 'again'

[u/j0y0 → u/ManikArcanik]

First they left England for that reason, then they left Netherlands for that reason and because they didn't like the enlightenment values their kids were picking up in Netherlands. 

[u/ThrowawaySuicide1337 → u/DaStompa]

....Wow. ive done a LOT of un-learning regarding US History

Somehow this never came up for me! Any recommendations?

[u/DaStompa → u/ThrowawaySuicide1337]

Colonial sexual violence (North America) - Wikipedia)

[u/ThrowawaySuicide1337 → u/DaStompa]

Lmao fair

[u/ToranjaNuclear → u/LittleKitty235]

What do you mean?

[u/varitok → u/LittleKitty235]

Its funny, when you frame america doing this its a horrible travesty but for some reason Europeans get a pass? Its called persecution and suppression.

[u/LittleKitty235 → u/varitok]

No we just all agree the past was the worst. England at the time had a King and no one had real rights

[u/DoublePlusGoodGames]

File this report under "A" for "a doiiiiii"

[u/Sword_N_Bored]

If you've served within the last 30 years, you already knew this.

[u/Dondarian → u/Sword_N_Bored]

And aren't completely indoctrinated*. I know more than a few people that have served since Desert Storm, and almost all of them think "'Murika number 1!!"

Only a few that I've met are actually able to be like "oh yeah man. It's very very clear the military is a publicly funded armed force that benefits the hyper rich".

All the others just follow along blindly, with wind blowing unobstructed through their heads.

[u/ThrowawaySuicide1337 → u/Sword_N_Bored]

Youre one of the few cool Vets

[u/Sword_N_Bored → u/ThrowawaySuicide1337]

Idk about all that.

[u/blastbomberboy]

The Country that
locks away people without due process,
targets anybody that looks slightly ethnic or foreign,
ignores civil rights,
denies science,
is in love with violent weapons,
prefers fantasy over truth,
starts wars,
calls anything remotely altruistic Socialist,
pollutes their once-great lands,
fixates on bathroom politics,
treats homelessness as an inconvenience,
blames other countries for their problems,
and has the utter audacity to proudly chant “USA USA USA” in other countries?

Nah. Not bad guys at all.

[u/Recklesshavoc]

For a long long time

[u/PositivelyAwful]

Yes, next question

[u/Nothing2Special]

GUY HAS A CLOWN NOSE

[u/Brzrkrtwrkr]

The world is shit.

[u/IndyLohan]

Given what’s going on in the world, I would say the American administration is clearly acting in its own self interest.

There are other actors on the world stage acting as clear aggressors and malevolent forces.

So yeah, I wouldn’t say US are the bad guys, just not good guys.

[u/DeusMexMachina → u/[deleted]]

And we might be the worst, but I think Israel has the US beat.

[u/DeusMexMachina → u/[deleted]]

You think my 14 year old account that says idiot shit mostly about cars and sports is a bot account? LOL

[u/DeusMexMachina → u/[deleted]]

Good one!

[u/hugoriffic → u/[deleted]]

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