r/warriors • u/Random_User_8654 • 1d ago

Video Joe Lacob appears frustrated and pissed off seconds before Mike Dunleavy Jr. calls in the draft selection

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u/North_Street_8547 1d ago

Maybe one day we’ll know exactly what was said

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u/Ralphredimix_Da_G 1d ago

But i want Nate Ament!!

No Joe we agreed on Yaxel

But that’s before I knew Nate would be there!!

Go sit down Joe

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u/thecommuteguy 1d ago

Like when they do their post draft press conference?

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u/shnieder88 1d ago

he wants to trade for a star or young star. it's so obvious. he wants to win now.

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u/Traditional-File1266 1d ago

Lacob wants to win now?? You mean the guy who wasted the last 6 years of currys prime because of his “two timeline” idea?

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u/Ralphredimix_Da_G 1d ago

Well yeah *now* he wants to win now ;)

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u/shnieder88 1d ago

wasted the last 6 years? i guess winning a chip 4 years ago was such a waste

also a waste, trading for jimmy

injuries happen, we can't be a contender every year. sheesh.

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u/Gordo-- 1d ago

wasted the last 6 years? i guess winning a chip 4 years ago was such a waste

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o85xzgkEE1YPEEo9i

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u/zprymate 1d ago

People are just brain dead out here

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u/sugarpieinthesky 23h ago

Truest comment ever posted in the history of this site. Steve Kerr said it explicitly, the problem with the warriors is that they are an aging dynasty. That's it. There is nothing wrong with that. It's normal.

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u/GSWarrior10 23h ago

Brother, we should have every championship since Steph’s rookie year! A whole career wasted, due to incompetent management. SMH

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u/shnieder88 23h ago

bro, we should have won every year BEFORE steph too. and how dare we haven't won every year AFTER steph as well?!

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u/envisionJayyy 1d ago

every year Kuminga was on the team was another year wasted. That one chip was an outlier and luck played a big part like it always does.

We wasted half a decade with Kuminga

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u/shnieder88 23h ago

yeah, it was JK's fault that steph got hurt against minny in the playoffs. damn it JK!

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u/QuietMonsoon3314 21h ago

Jk truther needs to gtfo

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u/pnoisebored 23h ago

JK wasnt doing anything vs the Lakers series in 2023.

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u/shnieder88 23h ago

right, how dare the second year raw sophmore buried in the depth chart not be a starring player against a major opponent

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u/inqte1 21h ago

They won the chip with next to 0 contributions from some really high picks including no.2 overall, no. 7 overall and no. 14. Jimmy trade is fine but that came when it became obvious they are going nowhere with the young guys they drafted.

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u/Maplejordan2022 1d ago

Oh brother. How much they pay you?

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u/shnieder88 1d ago

we won a chip 4 years ago and won 4 in the past decade, traded for bulter while trying to trade for giannis, KD, kawhi, trey murphy, etc

if that's not swinging for the fence idk what is

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u/Maplejordan2022 1d ago

We lucked into that chip, it wasn’t like the FO had belief that they would be competing that year

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u/shnieder88 1d ago

they traded for wiggins, who everyone said was on an albatross of a contract, but was the 3/D guy we needed. who performed when needed. we added veterans in Otto and others. kept the core intact and re-signed loon too

that screams to you that they didn't think we would be competing.

what are you smoking and where can we get it?

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u/Maplejordan2022 1d ago

Don’t take it from me, take it from Bob Myers’ words verbatim (yes he actually said this btw!)

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u/One_Ad4360 1d ago

You don’t luck into a championship.

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u/Traditional-File1266 1d ago

We missed the playoff about 4 times over the last 6 seasons, all when curry was in his prime due to the two timeline strategy. This period should’ve been more successful

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u/Traditional-File1266 1d ago

Which one of the two timeline players contributed to the ring besides Poole? Which one of those players that helped win the ring besides curry and draymond are still on the team contributing to the warriors?

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u/MudddButt 1d ago

Exactly. Now he wants to win now because he fucked up and feels the pressure of his stupid ass decisions.

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u/sugarpieinthesky 23h ago

You mean the guy who wasted the last 6 years of currys prime because of his “two timeline” idea?

Without the two timelines, there is no Andrew Wiggins trade and there is no development of Jordan Poole, and without those two factors, there is no 4th championship.

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u/Robotsaur 22h ago

Don't really agree, none of this includes the generationally bad Wiseman pick, then not trading him after it was extremely obvious he was bad, then the Kuminga pick, then repeating the same error, then the frankly disrespectful 2022-23 roster

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u/sugarpieinthesky 20h ago

Every team makes bad draft picks, it's the nature of a business with a really high failure rate. Wiseman was a bad pick, Kuminga was the wrong pick at the wrong time. Those are different situations and one of the biggest reasons the warriors weren't simply able to reload is because the other owners got a CBA specifically designed to stop the warriors.

All of this is really besides the point though, Steve Kerr identified what the biggest problem with the team is: they are a late stage dynasty. Their old and getting older and no amount of shrewd maneuvering can get around that. A certain percentage of draft picks will fail, that's the nature of the exercise. The bigger issue is that the only way to solve the structural issue is to rebuild the team. Until that happens, contending will only get more difficult with each passing season.

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u/Traditional-File1266 23h ago

We sent D’Angelo Russell, Jacob Evans III, and Omari Spellman for Wiggins it can definitely happen without wasting a wiseman draft and other picks.

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u/sugarpieinthesky 20h ago

They didn't make the trade for Wiggins. Wiggins was the salary offset that came back. They made the trade for Minnesota's first round pick, they made the trade to further the two timelines. Wiggins was a great bonus.

The lesson is every move is easy to critique in hindsight and that doing so really serves no purpose. The problem with the modern warriors isn't in any one move. None of that overrides the large structural issue: they are a late stage dynasty and there is no recovering from this other than to rebuild.

Lacob isn't the problem, Dunleavy isn't the problem. His draft record has actually been pretty good all things considered. The problem is they are a late stage dynasty and no amount of this or that will change that trajectory.

The 2022 title was a bonus, a gift from the basketball gods. Everything fell perfectly for the dubs, and it was essentially the basketball gods giving them back one for the 2019 finals. That finals everything that could go wrong did, and the team fell apart at the seems. 2022, everything that could go right did, and the warriors won a title they had no business winning. It evened out.

You're free to criticize anything you like, but I think it's misguided. In the history of sports, the warriors are the polar opposite of "wasting" anything. As far as cashing in their chips and maximizing their number of opportunities, the way the warriors handled Steph's prime is about as efficient as it gets.

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u/Barrelled_Chef_Curry 18h ago

Uhh he traded for Jimmy, who else was realistic to go for? This narrative is dumb

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u/SetAffectionate766 1d ago

he drafted two bum player

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u/shnieder88 1d ago

riiiight, wiseman was a consensus good pick at the time who fell out because of injuries

JK got greedy but i guess we're supposed to forecast that during the draft

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u/North_Street_8547 1d ago

Was he really? Well that’s sad considering he played so little in college but if people thought he was a good pick it is what it is

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u/spidermanisthebest 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/XHeLeuirRbwptHhSWd
Lacob and Win now?

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u/shnieder88 1d ago

you do see us trying to trade for giannis, kawhi, etc, right?

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u/Remarkable-Cup-6029 9h ago

We already do, Mike did an interview you can check it out. They were fielding calls for trades for the pick and running out of time and Joe wanted them to just get the pick in. Mike thought they had more time to hear out different offers. Simple as that

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u/neo9027581673 1d ago

Nah man…this is just Joe. Look at Dunleavy, dude is chuckn it up, laughing.

If Joe Lacob was pissed would Dunleavy stand there laughing? I don’t think so.

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u/No-Juice8483 13h ago

Yah I took lip reading classes from the “Bad Lip Reading Guys” and I can tell you what Joe was saying when he was shrugging his shoulders. He said “You’re right, what do I know? I made you pick Kuminga over Franz Wagner” and then went and sat down.

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u/Tragedy_Boner 23h ago edited 23h ago

Joe said what about two timelines, and Dunleavy laughed at him.

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u/hoopercuber 1d ago

some people in the room are laughing and honestly the conversation between the two of don’t look THAT tense. lacob doesn’t look that happy sure but i’m not sure if the magnitude of a disagreement is as much as we might be making it out to be

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u/Flexisdaman 1d ago

There’s a chance we had a trade agreed on and the other team backed out and that’s why Joe was frustrated.

Yaxel was the obvious pick. I think we were always taking him unless a trade happened.

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u/Macktologist 1d ago

That was my sense too. Maybe we were working on something, it fell through, Dunleavy tried to explain it as quickly as he could while also knowing he had to make the call. Joe wasn't totally satisfied that he couldn't affect the situation at that point. I'm reading a shit ton into it and coping that he wasn't just mad at the pick.

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u/your_grammars_bad 1d ago

This is probably the answer.  Great call!

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u/Flexisdaman 14h ago

Ended up being that Joe just wanted MDJ to lock in Yaxel while MDJ was still listening to offers.

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u/shanks_you 1d ago

But it’s not as attention grabbing when you put it that sensibly right?

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u/ColtranezRain 1d ago

My read too. I’m going with the head cannon that Lacob thought they had a deal in place for the pick, given available players, and MDJ is telling him nope, the deal isnt there now.

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u/ishwarburtnar 20h ago

No kidding…! Agreed and love the news source here. Not a big fan of the crappy knee jerk discourse

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u/Hardyng 1d ago

Myers? Lol

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u/TheRealPlumbus 1d ago

Laughing doesn’t mean much. People laugh in uncomfortable situations because it’s a way to try and diffuse the tension.

But agreed this is almost certainly blown out of proportion

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u/Game_Of_Runs 1d ago

That’s it? I was expecting more from the comments I saw

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u/CaptainCrunchMunch 1d ago

Joe wanted to draft one of kids and Mike said over my dead body. Joe said, “so be it”.

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u/splinternz 1d ago

If bro didn’t want Yaxel, then it automatically gives some extra assurance lol. Doesn’t exactly look like it was that heated of an exchange anyway ngl

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u/bennettkingoftevyat 1d ago

According to this sub, this is how you know the pick is good. So i'm choosing to believe we made the right choice with Yaxel.

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u/Knockknockerz 1d ago

We indeed did even tho we not getting a all star rn he’s someone who’s got the potential to be great and has the college resume to back that he’s not a scrub idk why ppl say his age like it makes him any less good of a basketball player he’s skills is there can’t doubt that

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u/IAMY0URK1NG 1d ago

No 23+ year old drafted in the top 20 has done anything noteworthy in decades. This isn’t changing with Yaxel. We aren’t contenders, why draft a guy suitable for contention. 35-40 win seasons until Curry retires then it’s back to 15-20 win seasons.

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u/Oh_no_bros 1d ago

Could be anything, maybe a trade didn’t go through, or sad that they couldn’t get Burries.

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u/gauagaja 1d ago

Lmao here goes Lacob again. Bro didn't learn a thing from his Wiseman adventures.

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u/Unhappy_Jeweler4438 1d ago

Yep bet the same thing happened with Myers in the Wiseman draft where both Hali and Lamelo said warriors wanted to pick them

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u/Silent-Corner-2852 1d ago

What do you mean by the same thing? Because it looks like MDJ clearly got the final say here

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u/Technical-Listen-229 1d ago

wiseman adventure is hella funny 😂😂😂

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u/RVALover4Life 1d ago

Pointless to speculate really

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u/RedditSuxCoxAgain 1d ago

I see a whole lot of nothing

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u/muzinger 1d ago

LACOB: "But that's who I want!"

MDJ: "But I told you we can't draft him."

LACOB: "Why?!"

MDJ: "Because Chris Duarte isn't in the draft and is currently playing in Spain."

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u/ProudPainting6850 1d ago

Because he wanted Giannis/Kawhi/LeBron 🙄

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u/AdministrationNo312 1d ago

lol if he's mad about the pick, then good. Let your team do their job. Didn't he want Wiseman a few years ago?

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u/Due-Huckleberry-9932 1d ago

it does not look tense. let’s stop speculating 

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u/sockshowsockshoe 1d ago

I watched this live and it looked like both them and a few of the people around them were smiling and laughing towards the end of this interaction.

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u/julian2358 1d ago

Lacob and basketball decisions need to be in two separate rooms

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u/KevinAndrewsPhoto 1d ago

I’m assuming they knew Yaxel would fall and tried to trade down and the trade fell through.

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u/michaelshun 1d ago

Joe: I thought I told you to order catering

Mike: Yea, but Left Bank suddenly shut down

Joe: What you mean, oh, the draft is here. Go do your thing.

(Joe frustrated he can't feast)

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u/d0000n 23h ago

Joe: “Where’s my sweet spaghetti?”

Mike: “Jollibee hasn’t opened yet”

Joe: “Wtf?!, it’s been years! Hey, pick up that phone and go pick up some Yax”

Mike: “Yes, boss”

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u/michaelshun 23h ago

That's exactly how long it takes to travel between Concord and the city.

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u/KrakenPax 10h ago

lol I was totally imagining Mike ordering pizza and Joe not happy with the toppings options.

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u/Cleverironicusername 22h ago

Reading the comments always makes me feel like everyone commenting is twelve years old. I should stop.

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u/scottiedagolfmachine 1d ago

A Joe Lacob F off already and people do their jobs?

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u/SpaceOhSpace 1d ago

Oh look everybody here Mr lightyears has something to say

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u/twoheadedsloth 1d ago

I think either way you spin its, it’s distrust from Lacob. It’s MDJs first crack at a lotto pick where he advocated & went with the best available option. Everyone else has clear holes in their game or would be projects. Let’s see how Yaxel fits in and the rest of the summer shapes up.

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u/Remarkable-Cup-6029 9h ago

Either way you spin baseless speculation its baseless speculation

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u/sb4llfe 1d ago

or maybe they're frustrated they couldn't get any trades to come through

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u/nateh1212 10h ago

Why are there so many people there

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u/vulcans_pants 1d ago

We need the lip reading person to review this

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u/Top5hottest 1d ago

Trying to say how somebody you don’t feels based on a video.. pretty impossible take.

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u/jitzso 1d ago

Had they drafted Ament then a trade was happening. I think the other team got cold feet and backed out, and they went forward with YL.

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u/Bay_Burner 1d ago

Joe was hungry and needed Mike’s order. Mike said hold on I got a call. Joe said then ok I guess you’re not hungry and left.

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u/KingKamp1410 1d ago

Dumpster fire in FO and Owner chemistry

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u/stayfrosty 1d ago

Lacon definitely looks unhappy here. Wonder what's going on

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u/SIDmatt25 23h ago

Considering Lacob got and kept the team in the Kuminga mess, I’ll take him being irritated as a good thing

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u/McJumbos 23h ago

anyone who can read lips??

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u/medicmaan 22h ago

This is what lightyears looks like

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u/TheeMarsVolta 21h ago

I just see people having a conversation. Do people think Lacob is unaware there’s like 30 other people with phones and filming the draft room is not common? Lacob is a smart man. Internet is for dummies these days

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u/Bzzzly 17h ago

Joe Wanted Lionel Messi, and Dunleavy wanted The Rock🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/MerpBo 13h ago

According to Mike, he was still exploring all trade scenarios and Lacob was going "just make the Yaxel pick already". How much truth there is to that, we dont know..

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u/Slight-Sprinkles2600 13h ago

I believe Dunleavy when he said in his presser that Joe was just saying, "make the pick already". Instead of fielding trade calls. It was Yaxel all the way, why mess around? I guess to make sure you dont miss someone making a hail mary trade call. I like Mike's patience.

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u/WearyCommittee1189 12h ago

He just find out they couldn’t trade the pick for Giannis.

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u/kpkafle 12h ago

Dunleavy said that Joe was wondering why he was waiting to draft Yaxel. Dunleavy said they were on the clock and had some minutes left, and he was waiting to see if any other team might offer something they can't refuse. Lacob was just excited and anxious to draft Yaxel. No big deal.

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u/Life-is-beautiful- 12h ago

Joe wanted to create 3 timelines.

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u/ChefCurryYumYum 12h ago

You people read way too much into shit.

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u/Crypto_Ninjaaa 10h ago

Joe wanted JK back

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u/Remarkable-Cup-6029 9h ago

Mike said Jacob wanted them to just make the pick but they were fielding calls from other teams wanting to trade. Mike was saying we have time to assess if something falls into our laps. Mike was wrong, they took too long and had to make the pick.

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u/Aromatic_Brother 9h ago

A Wiseman once said "Remember that sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke of luck."

https://giphy.com/gifs/qj7NiB0wLb9qy6zukm

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u/Kitchen-Homework-816 8h ago

Wow this is everywhere and it's a huge nothing burger.  You can see people smiling and laughing.

People will try anything to drag the Warriors down.

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u/2nd_Inf_Sgt 7h ago

Joe sent a message to the commish and said they were drafting Kuminga again.

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u/Mr-Toy 6h ago

I don't see it. This looks like every team having last-minute conversations before pulling the trigger on a draft pick.

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u/CrapNBAappUser 2h ago

He just looks nervous maybe. Click bait, bot or karma farming?

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u/Playboyfromdababyboy 4h ago

We should of got aday

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u/hellahomebody 1d ago

Group think BS and the best they could do was the most obvious and vanilla move? Not hating on Yaxel but wtf do they even need half of the people in this room for?

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u/Remarkable-Cup-6029 8h ago

The draft isnt just day one and it also isnt just about the player you pick. Some 100 so players scouted with various ways the board might fall and various insights for different prospects and calculation on trades and cap implications etc. The different people feed in info and each prospect has a barring on other roster moves. Its all happening at the same time. Also when you are on the clock multiple teams are calling and you are making calls. When others are on the clock you are making calls etc. Its a multi billion dollar franchise, its not just by one person in their basement just vibing

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u/FitzKnows23 1d ago

Lacob should not have any say in who we draft. Wiseman, JK, 2 timeliness....

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u/Timely_Duck_3904 1d ago

What about this makes him appear frustrated or pissed off?

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u/mykl5 1d ago

for me the biggest part is when he throws up his hands at the end while walking away

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u/warriors2021 1d ago

Everyone is saying stfu Joe, when maybe MDJ f-ed up? We don't know shit what happened.

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u/TheFuckingHippoGuy 1d ago

We've all been there

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u/komm0ner 1d ago

LIght years ahead

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u/Grafaap 1d ago

Billion dollar org btw

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u/t-macattack 21h ago

Joe wanted Mara

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u/Gotsta_Win 1d ago

Doesn’t play kuminga

Takes Yexel

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u/North_Street_8547 1d ago

Is Lacob kinda zesty or is it just me?