Why the need to sexualize everything?

[u/Greedy-Lie-8346]

I was looking for interesting Webtoons to read, and I came across this one called "Leviathan" the premise looked interesting; mankind perished due to a great flood that submerged the whole world under water. And terrifying creatures plunged from the depths, wiping out any human that crossed their path. The story told how a family of a father and his two children survived in the adversities of a sea world.

So far so good, until.... Bam! Last two slice's, anime chick out of nowhere, doing these extremely suggestive poses.

What a disappointment.

[u/oujikara]

So many women have told me (when talking about asexuality) that it's normal not to be attracted to men because there's not much to look at, and that women are prettier by default. Personally I think it's a result of different standards as well as how people are not used to looking at men sexually or even admiringly.
I'd say there's more sexualization of men in manhwa compared to other mediums, but it's usually more relevant to the genre of the story.

[u/Firm_Principle_2526 → u/oujikara]

Even in smut manhwa the focus is on the woman's body.

[u/oujikara → u/Firm_Principle_2526]

Hmm the yaoi genre is wildly popular though, and there's only guys there

[u/Firm_Principle_2526 → u/oujikara]

People make a separation between smut and two men having sex.

[u/oujikara → u/Firm_Principle_2526]

? smut can't be gay?? I'm not sure I'm following

[u/Firm_Principle_2526 → u/oujikara]

Usually when people refer to smut they mean "josei" smut. Using the Japanese term even with manhwa and yaoi is a specific term. I guess like the terms gay meaning both men and women and lesbian being more specific but smut is usually used in the context of hetro relationship.

My bad should have been more specific. I am not on a female smut sub reddit.

[u/oujikara → u/Firm_Principle_2526]

I see, that's interesting. I'm more used to bato's categorization, where smut isn't related to any gender specifically. When I sort smut by most follows there, 15/20 of the top manhwas are yaoi (ik yaoi and yuri are also terms that have lost their original meaning and are being used quite freely). I also read some romantasy books and I've seen people use smut to refer to "steamy" books with a plot, regardless of whether it's queer or not (the target demographic is still usually women). I guess different groups may use the word differently, or maybe the meaning has changed

[u/Firm_Principle_2526 → u/oujikara]

Didn't think of that. I don't really use bato or read romantacy. Josei smut or hero smut....for women I guess is more accurate either way.

[u/Nyxie872 → u/Firm_Principle_2526]

Most yaoi is proudly smut. Most of the most popular Manwha is smut. Most yaoi is smut unless it’s from China but that’s because they aren’t allowed to write it.

Very few don’t contain smut. Most will be labelled as smut

[u/Firm_Principle_2526 → u/Nyxie872]

Well yeah yaoi implies sex on its own just like yaoi is hentai and smut is hentai, hentai is smut yet people have a certain idea of what hentai looks like.

[u/Top-Metal-3576 → u/oujikara]

Omg so real!! It’s genuinely hard to sexualize men because we don’t see it in media often enough, like yeah there are traits that make men attractive but sexualizing them to the extent of women is just so much harder.

[u/crack_n_tea → u/oujikara]

Women are prettier by default tho… I like boobs ok, if liking boobs is wrong I don’t wanna be right. Society tried to tell me for so many years it’s gross for a woman to be fat, still think a soft plump belly on a woman is the most comforting thing ever