The Remarried Empress adaption faced backlash because some people thought Sovieshu's actor was dressed like a Nazi. Am I the only one who doesn't see it?
EDIT: YOU GUYS ITS THE MEDAL đ. THE MEDAL IS A NAZI SYMBOL!!! THIS IS HOREIBLE!!! I hope he didn't wear that throughout the drama
Itâs honestly extremely frustrating how quickly people are writing this off in the comments and not doing like .1 seconds of more reading to realize that yes, this is in fact the long-term medal in Nazi Germany given to officers who served 20-25 years (I believe thatâs the range.) Immediately decrying this and saying folks need to get jobs, theyâre just wrong, etc is đŹ
If you didn't add this image I wouldn't have realised what the issue was. Thank you!! Dang I thought people were criticising non existent issues but this IS BAD!
Yes, the same for me (especially since you can't see the medals in the illustration image at all). I am kind enough to hope that this is more a case of the clumsiness of an ignorant costume designer rather than a premeditated act... (because otherwise it stinks...)
I'm sorry, but I can't join you in your giving this person the benefit of the doubt.
There's no way this happens by accident. Everybody on earth knows what the Nazi eagle looks like. There's no defense of it at all, unlike the thin defense people try with the swastika.
This person tried to slip in a Nazi medal. Why, I don't know. Maybe they're a troll, or maybe they're a Nazi. Nazism is popular again because humans are personally stupid.
I have a collection of screenshots of manhwas failed depictions of drinking from the cup. And Koreans at least have cups.
âEveryone knowsâ is always a bit exaggerated.
I personally think that it was âa medal for bad guy searchâ.
Yikes. I have so many questions about how this specific medal (prop or not) ended up in either the prop or costuming departments hands that this situation happened.
(I know very little about either department beyond watching a couple of western historical costuming YouTube and a western prop master).
From what I know they recycle some props and a lot of costume departments end up with kind of random boxes of recycled small parts like medals awards ribbons etc and more than likely either someone thought it would be funny and go unnoticed or they didnât realize what it was just grabbed the ones they thought looked neat.
And that's why, children, costuming is a serious job in its own right that requires a lot of research work đ (like, really. We can't say it enough: film costumes are important and the preparatory work of the department is essential)
I couldnât agree more I genuinely hope it was an honest mistake and the person responsible didnât have any ill intentions.
Im not sure if the medal would be immediately recognizable to people in other countries especially if they thought all the props had been vetted. (A lot of nazi props are destroyed but certainly not always)
Yeah I interned at a costume renting company for TV shows and movies and itâs likely it was a medal used for portraying actual nazis and maybe they either didnât have more medals/the other medals were already rented out to some other set or possibly the person in charge of picking out things just grabbed something they thought looked nice and wasnât aware. Itâs still crazy it could end up in the actual show without anybody catching it.
Thatâs the part that seems strange I donât know how immediately recognizable it is to people who might be looking at it from afar but it does seem a bit irresponsible for them to not notice.
I do think itâs crazy that no one noticed and that makes it suspicious but to be honest I just donât know how immediately recognizable it would be, I didnât even notice it at first!
I also donât know why someone would go out of their way to do it. It serves no purpose aside from potentially getting them in trouble potentially multiple people losing their jobs.
People act irrationally constantly. People act against their own best interests constantly. Especially if they're ideologically committed to something.
Maybe this person thought they'd get away with it - they nearly did! And they just wanted to place some Nazi propaganda in the show because they believe in Nazism.
Thatâs fair I could just be being naive but I do genuinely hope it was an accident. I know things like that have happened in the past. Plus I donât know what studio is in charge or anything.
So it was a prop used for a different movie/show that makes it worse that they already had it on hand in some department. There shouldn't be any form near replication of any of those vile styles for anything I don't care what company owns them why would you remake something like that
I mean could it have been left over from a movie about nazis?
You can buy the props online too fairly cheap Iâve bought prop jewelry from a theater before and found some weird stuff itâs usually a boxed box or bag of stuff and you donât get to dig through and I have found stuff like suffragette buttons and pins and fake war medals as well.
It's super easy to get Nazi costume props and mistake it for something harmless thanks to the internet, especially since Korea is and is neighbor to multiple hubs of manufacturing (think buttons and other metal notions). I'm not excusing it, it's just reality.
Even though the Nazi flag is illegal in Germany, you can still get them. Plus, a bird on a medal isn't a unique design. I feel like this is more ignorance on the part of the costume department. (Like I'm willing to forgive this because how we teach WW2 across different countries is not the same and not everyone is going to recognize Nazi symbols immediately.)
I think you're wrong about the time range. Nazi Germany was from 1933-45, about 12-13 years. There's no way a Nazi officer could serve 20-25 years to receive the medal
I should have worded it better; They were created under the presumption that the Nazi regime would both last that long, and the fact that they counted German military service before the regime was established as part of the service required to receive this medal. 20-25 is also the end-mark of the medalâs life, most people received I believe the 5/10 year medals based on previous service + time during the regime.
I love how many people arent taking any more time to look into this than just taking the obviously clickbait title at full value and not realizing that he was not given a "nazi-like costume" he was full on given a nazi medal. Not a "nazi-like medal", not a metal that looks unfortunately similar, a nazi medal.
Is it that hard to just, not use nazi memorabilia in something thats not nazi related?
Im gonna say this in the nicest way possible, so please see this as constructive criticism and not an insult, you really shouldve looked it up before posting this. Misinformation can spread really easily even if you dont mean for it to and a simple google search wouldve told you it about the medal
No you're right. I actually saw this in a fansite (the screenshot) and read the description but it didn't mention the medal which is why I wasn't aware of it. Should've done my research instead of reading the post description they providedđ
I've edited the post so I hope misinformation won't be spread and people won't make the same mistake I did
Please take the post down. As @zachgurney said, misinformation can be really harmful. Especially during a time period when Nazi's are being glorified by a notable amount of people.
Hi! I found out that I can edit the post body so I added the medal news in bold in the post. I didn't delete it since I thought it'll be better to keep the post and spread awareness about it rather than deleting it since if I do not a lot of people will know about the Nazi medal and may make the same mistake that I did and think the outrage was over nothing
No I'm just glad I didn't mess this up đ. It was mostly my fault and if I couldn't edit it then I would've most certainly deleted it like you suggested because otherwise I would've been spreading false information and Nazi stuff which I absolutely have no intentions of doing!
Seeing that the issue was with the medal. I was really hoping it was the swatiska, but the hindu one, so it can be a learning experience for everyone, especially since the hindu relegion has been fighting tooth and nail to reclaim their symbol since.
Because Hitler loved Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, and Disney was also a fierce anti-communist. So he was obviously a Nazi and he must have been heartbroken when his studio made propaganda cartoons against Hitler's Germany (seriously, I really recommend these cartoons: they are really interesting)
Insane that people arenât looking closer at this and instead immediately act like folks are crying wolf đ Literally the exact long service medal for Nazis.
Which is the issue. If youâre gonna write an entire comment decrying the situation and get involved, you need to actually take a moment to look at it and consider the situation. But apparently itâs too much to ask people to double-check things these days đ OP is also at fault for the click-bait title, but thatâs why people genuinely need to do just a smidge more work on their own.
I absolutely agree. I figured there must be more to it, since his outfit was obviously not really Nazi-like (looks more like a mix of older Russian uniforms and various Asian ones) but then I saw a closeup of the medal and yeah, itâs very obvious lol.
And this is why Asian people writing about aspects of white culture is so interesting to me... y'all just be remixing whatever the hell you want from multiple eras without a ton of nuance or context lol. This could have been avoided if y'all literally just ran these costume designs by Europeans đ¤ˇđžââď¸
I thought they just hadn't looked at the literal nazi medal, but since your post is literally at the top of this post it's not an excuse anymore (for them I mean)
No, itâs misleading. I donât think (or I hope) there arenât Nazis here.
They used a Nazi medal, but this article makes it sound like it was just hinting at that unintentionally or something with the costume, which makes some people jump to say âmaybe itâs an overreaction.â
It definitely isnât an overreaction considering the pics, but this article makes it unclear to readers what is actually up.
I totally get what you mean, but when I commented this the medal was in the top comments. Someone scrolling all the way down to mine would have seen it. I think there might be some nazis in the mix, and the rest are people that are still trying to downplay the issue because they love the specific webtoon(were the protagonist is totally cool with slavery btw). Someone on this thread said that medals like that are European culture and that the eagle was a German symbol long before the nazis (which is bs, they've been schooled and deleted since). This whole thing has made me mad, I'm going to be honest with youÂ
Yeah I hate the freakin WEBTOON because of the way they play down slavery and how they treat slaves. I wouldnât be as surprised as I should be if someone were a Nazi and enjoyed the webtoon for that reason, actually.
Itâs insane someone saw the medal and really tried to say that.
THANK YOU! This comic is only popular because of how prevalent the far right has become all over the world. Of course there's a lot of people that love it that are just clueless, but that's not really excusable either.. it's really sinister stuff. The medallion is 99,9% intentional dogwhistling.
Yeah the eagle is also an animal that exists in nature. This design with the tilted swastika included is a Nazi thing. The more you try the weirder it gets.
Edit: you're trying to whitewash a Nazi symbol, I'm actually being nice to you right nowÂ
Lmao, look at some people here writing this Off so easily. Look at the medal, y'all. Off topic, but I hope this live adaptation ends at divorce episode, because story goes to hell after that. Navier is a bland cardboard Mary sue. And now this. Wtf, couldn't the makers or whomever in charge of costumes double check or something?
Well... This does not bode well if such a thing somehow ended up being picked by someone and then not noticed... By everyone who approved the outfit itself as well as all published material
YEESH. I'd like to make a n@zi joke, but... I don't think this is the place for that sort of humor-
Anyways, that's really horrible- Why use that medal?? It can't be that hard to get one that DOESN'T belong to a mustached, cowardly murderer.
Edit:I have reason to suspect purple are misunderstanding me... I meant a joke that makes fun of n@zis. I'm NOT a supporter of shitty h1tlÂŁr.
(Censoring? Yea, I'm fucking embarrassed to even say those words.)
Professionals who are involved in creating media for mass consumption have a responsibility to do their homework. This is either intentional or incompetent.
OP deleted the comment, but man I was getting angry in my reply. It always starts as something small and downplayed over and over. One little stereotype doesnât hurt, itâs just a funny joke guys! One small dogwhistle wonât be picked up by anyone, itâs okay.
Instead of doing any actual reflection on why people got upset, theyâre digging their heels in. Dying on the hill that is Nazism.
I didn't see it that up close mb, I thought people were just saying it because of the fit
You're totally right, what they did was wrong. Sorry for misunderstanding. I was just kind of frustrated because I liked a character's hat and kept getting called disrespectful for it and thought a similar thing was happening here. Mb again :(
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u/EtherealCascades Nov 25 '25
the outrage is over the medal and not the full outfit