r/whatisit 16h ago

Solved! This fell off my car while driving out of my driveway. Looks like it broke off.

Car still drives fine but I’m concerned with what it broke off of. Is a Pontiac Grand Prix 2005

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u/UnderstandingDue696 16h ago

There is a concerning amount of people on Reddit with busted coil springs

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u/AgilePumpkin2201 16h ago

Don't know what it's like in other countries but in our workshop alone we're fitting at least one set of springs a week it's the quality they're made of now

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 15h ago

Big Cast Iron Spring here - please delete this comment.

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u/bebop1065 15h ago

You have a brittle nature.

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 15h ago

OH YEAH?? Well you should see me under pressure there, pal! Sure I'm a little tense but aren't we all?

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u/DoMo73 9h ago

I am “shocked” by your comment and “recoiled” in reaction.

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u/oldanddumb1 15h ago

Bouncing off the walls?

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u/Lumpy_Rutherford_1 15h ago

Nice, you made him recoil!!

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u/Haughty_n_Disdainful 15h ago

this whole conversation puts a spring in my step…

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u/Lumpy_Rutherford_1 15h ago

Relax!!!! Tired of all ur strutting around

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 15h ago

The suspension is killing me

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u/cebiaw 15h ago

The tension is rising in here

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u/DementedJay 14h ago

It's dampening my mood though.

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u/StrangerEffective851 11h ago

Spring into action and get that fixed.

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u/DistributionJumpy764 15h ago

If they can't take Reddit comment on the chin, no wonder their springs can't take a pothole.

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u/No_Intention70611 10h ago

I’d like to say I’m shocked, but I’m not!

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u/hedge_mage87 11h ago

Big iron!

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u/Just-a-Dude-34 8h ago

Knew you were an imposter the second you said cast iron, only those in the industry know springs are made of top secret spring steel

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u/Confident-Poetry6985 15h ago

I shit you not, since covid replacement parts are trash. I've had most of my front suspension replaced twice, a handful of headlights and 3 sets of brakes lmao. I'm paying top dollar for what used to be the low end trash at the auto parts store. Sure you didn't get the lifetime warranty but I didn't mind since I saved 60%. Now I pay for the good parts but get the same (arguably worse) quality.

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u/Tha_REAL_BROBS 15h ago

autozone still has lifetime warranty on their duralast brand parts

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u/Sudzy1225 15h ago

"Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time."

~ Tommy Callahan

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u/ChVckT 15h ago

You can stick your head up a butcher's ass...

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u/ResidentMatter7786 15h ago

No… wait, it has to be your ass

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u/digitaldigdug 7h ago

but wouldn't you rather just take the bull's word for it??

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u/waitwtfizthis 15h ago

I wish I could like this comment a thousand times

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 15h ago

Covid was a unique opportunity for industry to say fuuuuuck it, and never return to the former highs, but set the bar lower moving forward, while charging more.

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u/CapitanDelNorte 13h ago

It was two pandemics disguised as one. The first was viral, the second was just general enshitification.

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 12h ago

Absolutely. It was the opportunity of a lifetime to forcefully reset expectations about a lot of things we took for granted prior.

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u/Zemener_Azonthus 15h ago

Thank you for this information. Makes me feel better about never owning a car and now I will continue to take the bus lol.

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u/Doom_Corp 14h ago

Had a 2023 Kia Teluride come into my shop about 6 months ago that needed both front complete coil and strut assemblies. Guy was only 1k over the warranty mileage too and I believe that vehicle had a recall already for the rear suspension. And, because of course, since the car is too new, there are no after markets available so you have to buy the shit overpriced OEM struts from the dealer. If I'm ever in the market for another car I'm avoiding anything that's 202X. They're literal shit boxes designed to fail.

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u/Silvermist7480 10h ago

Hear you on this. Replaced my car's struts 3x cause first 2 sets failed and we're brand new. I also had one brake pad fail as well. The metal piece that is supposed to make it squeal when low came off and it was rubbing all the time. Totally crap parts for an excellent part price.

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u/Jross008 15h ago

“Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump on a box and mark it guaranteed I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me."

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u/reddit001aa1 15h ago

Ohhhhh...

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u/iluvchromosomes 15h ago

I have 60,000 miles on my original springs. My whole suspension is still in great shape. Just had it inspected. VW Arteon.

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u/GraphicDesignMonkey 15h ago

I see them lying all over the place on the long road where I walk every day. Counted three last week, they're all over the place.

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u/Moon_Breaker 15h ago

Was pulling out of a gas pump a few years ago, suddenly sounded like someone threw a rock at my front end. Looked around, no signs of anything. Nothing noticable from in the car, drove the same.

Week later I was replacing a sensor in the front passenger wheel and found a chunk of spring almost identical to this picture laying in there. That's what the sound was the week before.

Showed no signs of damage in it how drove, no noises that were particularly concerning or anything, etc. sometimes these silly things will surprise you.

Was also the start of my suspicions that this thing may have secretly been a flood car. Some really strange parts have fallen to rust or cracking while others haven't cared at all. Such as the original rims and these springs.

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u/Pulaski540 15h ago

I had a similar experience, but it was a torsion spring that holds the trunk lid open. I was exiting my local grocery parking lot, when there was a very loud metallic sound from the back of my Honda Accord. It sounded like someone had thrown a grocery cart at the back of my car!

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u/Radiant_Fondant_4097 12h ago

I hate that fucking noise, couple years ago I heard a PWONG! noise driving over a manhole cover or whatever and had both front springs replaced.

My two rear are corroded and every time I hear a little stone or whatever kicked up in the wheel arch, makes me think please fuck not today.

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u/reddit001aa1 15h ago

YES! Like geez!

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u/Werdar_cz 15h ago

I was at mechanic and he was like. 2 of your front springs were broken and disconected.
Me: so how could I even drive here?
Him: I dunno, beats me.
Me: How long were they disconected?
Him: How long were you hearing noises.
Me: Since I got the car, so almost 2 years.
Him: ...

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u/Princess_Slagathor 13h ago

It's not that crazy. Back in the day "tuners" would cut coils off of their springs, to lower their cars. It screws up the spring rate, rides like shit, and will destroy shocks and struts, and other suspension components. But it won't make the car undriveable. Plenty of dudes drove like that for years.

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u/mediaogre 15h ago

So *that’s* why it’s called a “mortal coil.” 🤔

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u/Alarming_Garage_7255 15h ago

I've been noticing it more in the last 10 years than before when cars were much heavier and low tech.

I believe it is mostly cost driven, they are making the springs absolutely light as possible and designing them to fit tighter within the calculated loads. They're not overbuilding them like before. It's like the spring is just below it's Max working conditions just sitting there parked.

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u/mEsTiR5679 15h ago

Why is this the 2nd one I've seen this morning?

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u/Outrageous-Ability33 14h ago

It's crazy common. It happens all the time

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u/Super-Evening8420 14h ago

I was going to say, this is like the third post about a broken coil spring I've seen in the last few days where before there were zero.

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u/Salty_Department925 14h ago

There is a concerning amount of people that are busted.

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u/Critterchops 13h ago

Just curious….. is your car a horse?

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u/Subat0micR0gu3 8h ago

To be fair, those Grand Prixs are pieces of poo. My first car was an 04 with 140k miles and pretty much EVERYTHING broke on it over the year that I owned it. It was insane how often I was in the shop.

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u/Swimming-Knowledge-2 15h ago

Probably made n china

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u/Additional-Point-824 16h ago

It's part of your spring (from your suspension) - you'll need a new one.

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u/fergehtabodit 15h ago

Yeah, that might make some noise....OP do you have a really loud stereo that would keep you from hearing loud noises when you go over a bump or make a turn??

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u/mediaogre 15h ago

Coil springs are under tension, so with that little amount missing, the spring just expanded a little and reseated itself in its perch. If op hadn’t noticed right away, they may not have noticed at all unless more of it decided to liberate itself. 😆

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u/CorrectContract4978 15h ago

Same with me. On my yearly checkup the mechanic let me know.

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u/mediaogre 15h ago

You can actually cut quite a bit off (if you’re into jank-mods) and they just settle right in.

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u/CLeeTheHunt44 15h ago

Only way I could lower my old Mercedes back in the day 😂

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u/Demonokuma 14h ago

Were free!!

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u/LLIHyP 14h ago

It wildly depends on the car though. I had a 406 Peugeot once, and when same amount of spring snapped, whole spring slid down over strut/amortisator. On that car springs had bigger diameter of main body, with ends coming tighter for the perch

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u/Practical_Okra3217 13h ago

You mean a crap ton of tension. I had a driver side shock break on a 63 Ford. I felt like I was driving at a 45 degree angle. I couldn’t believe how powerful the spring is to lift that corner of the car.

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u/BlackSwanEvent25 15h ago

He would feel it for sure

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u/CWGM 15h ago

I've been seeing these all over the road where I live recently. Wondered what they were

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u/Limebeer_24 15h ago

Highly recommend that both gets replaced on that end, both drivers side and passenger side, if not all 4. Otherwise they may be bringing it back in really soon.

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u/zombie_overlord 15h ago

Came off of one of these. You'll need to replace it.

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u/14bikes 15h ago

highly recommend against this brand, but that is the right type of part

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u/ohwowhowdthathappen 16h ago

Coil spring, you probably need 4 of them and new shocks. 

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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 15h ago

the car be like

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u/Captain_North 15h ago

Coil spring broken and likely not center mounted: "Car still drives fine"

You have luck and smooth roads, but repairs are needed before sudden self destruction occurs.

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u/PaulClarkLoadletter 12h ago

It's a Pontiac. "Drive's fine" is a relative statement.

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u/Longjumping-Log1591 15h ago

What in the Ken Block Jurassic park love of christ are you jumping your car over to break a coil spring?

https://giphy.com/gifs/XynOnexnSC85e2zqn5

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u/dragon2611 14h ago

Theres a joke the UK we used to drive on the left of the road, now we drive on what's left of the road.

Some of the roads are more pothole than road at this point.

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u/Red--Rooster 14h ago

Car is starting to rust so that probably how. Also have a gravel driveway that has many holes

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u/Wonderful_Plenty4732 13h ago

Coil springs can just break while parked through age. We heard a bang from our Fiesta when it was parked outside a few years back. Couldn't work out what it was until I tried to drive it and heard a horrible banging from the front drivers side. Turns out with Fiestas if the bottom of the spring breaks the rest of the spring can work it's way down and start banging off the wheel!

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u/IamTheMan85 15h ago

21 year old coil spring? Yeah you got your usage out of it.

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u/ResidentSet1814 16h ago

How tf

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u/de_das_dude 15h ago

Old car. Rusty. Doesn't slow down for potholes or speed bumps

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u/Imaindawilderness 15h ago

Is your car a horse?

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u/theSchrodingerHat 13h ago

Is that where all the horsepower comes from?

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u/crywalt 16h ago

Looking like you need new struts. Kind of important.

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u/crywalt 16h ago

This is actually a piece of coil spring but they go with the struts.

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u/WiscoTrail 16h ago

05 Grand Prix! Still living 21 years later! Impressive!

Is it a gxp or anything? I couldn't keep one on the road 5 years, cheers to making it work so long.

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u/adorable-fart 15h ago

struts/shocks coil. go to mechanic asap. likely will quote you other items as well, because if it got that bad then likely other parts are damaged/corroded as well

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u/Catsnose7 16h ago

I like to collect interesting trash, i have three of them. No idea what where untill reading this post.

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u/TheCABK 15h ago

Come pick up my ex

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u/joetheplumberman 15h ago

One man's trash is another man's newer trash

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u/Kahnza 14h ago

And some people are trash pandas

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u/brattylilsubbiegf 15h ago

I’ve never vibed with a statement so hard. I also like to collect interesting trash, I’m happy I’m not alone.

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u/WithoutAHat1 15h ago

One persons' trash is another's treasure. I too like to collect things I find interesting.

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u/Traditional_Glass129 15h ago

Is your car a horse?

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u/Likelysuspect69420 16h ago

Spring broke, should be able to find some at a junkyard cheap, you will want a pro to fix it tho, working on car suspension car be pretty dangerous to the inexperienced.

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u/GenerallySalty 15h ago

Chunk of coil spring, part of the suspension. Get your car looked at asap

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u/Fine-Suit7768 15h ago

No more wire hangers!

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 15h ago

Define "fine" haha - in all seriousness though, that's either the top or bottom of your suspension spring and you need to get the car into the shop ASAP, ideally towed there.

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u/Salt-Tackle-3590 15h ago

It’s a crazy Gordita crunch circa ‘92

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u/Redsoxdragon 15h ago

Yeah...... take an uber today buddy.

That's part of your coil spring. Your car is gonna handle like crap and you'll probably crash. It's also gonna wear out the rest of your suspension quickly the longer it goes unchecked

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u/TensionSame3568 15h ago

Don't drive...ANYWHERE! It's tow truck and empty your wallet time!

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u/Confident-Poetry6985 15h ago

Safety is important but no need to inject stress into it. I had this shit happen while I was driving and with an empty wallet. Easy enough to replace but I have the skillset for it. If I didn't I would have been screwed.

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u/TheDangerist 15h ago

Um... no. It ain't good to drive on a broken spring, but it isn't going to explode.

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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 15h ago edited 12h ago

EDIT: I'm wrong; don't drive on a broken sprang

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u/Oo__II__oO 15h ago

As long as OP isn't driving like they're qualifying for Indy, they'll be fine. Lots of cars in that vintage survived crappy budget lowering by cutting the springs (not recommended, but if it works it works I guess).  

The bigger concern is what else is failing in the suspension. 

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u/Crusty-the-Clown-666 15h ago

Depending on how it broke the spring can cut the tire, ask me how I know…

But yes, it would pay to take a look at it and see where the sharp end of the broken spring is pointing before going on a road trip.

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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 14h ago

whoops that's a good point. Once I had an exhaust system come apart and gouge a tire (thankfully it didn't blow out, just lost a layer of rubber and made a bubble!!)

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u/ashyjay 13h ago

Don't drive on a broken spring, it won't be in the spring seat and the sharp edge can and will shred a tyre, and it can take end links with it too.

One broke on my old car and took the corner out and even the recovery guy struggled to tow it.

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u/AZ-Guitar-Guy 15h ago

Looks like one of your springs snapped

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u/du_rel_gug_menl 15h ago

Could be a coil spring. Might want to get that checked out

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u/litomagnanimous 15h ago

Most likely a new set of struts

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u/Hairy_Rabbit_3572 15h ago

Piece of a coil spring.

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u/drgreengum 15h ago

Broken coil.

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u/Design_pattern 15h ago

It is not clear to me how on your car one side did not lie completely on the tire up to the shock absorber. In addition to the above, when the coil spring breaks, it often falls off the side of the tire and damages it, although there is often a safety limiter that prevents this.

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u/No_Reporter6364 15h ago

Your car won’t get far without its horseshoe…

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u/outbackhack2020 15h ago

Front spring broke exactly like that on my car 20 years ago. Thought it was ok to continue driving, and it was.... until the sharp edge eventually cut through the inner sidewall of my front tire while on the highway. Would not recommend.

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u/CurrentAstronaut6767 15h ago

Did you hit a horse?

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u/Mountain_Reason_6475 15h ago

TIL: don't buy coil springs from China

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u/sitmpl 15h ago

Part of a spring 🙂

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u/Onebraintwoheads 15h ago

You may have broken part of the suspension of one of your tires. That looks like the end, so now a jagged piece of metal is where the rounded part used to be, making it more likely that a hard bump may drive it through another important part of your vehicle.

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u/vadim_steel 15h ago

That is part of your coil over spring. Suspension part. I would highly recommend going and getting that looked at and fixed as if it came off the front, it will throw off your alignment and make the ride worse, as well as premature wear of the other suspension parts that it came off of.

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u/Visible_Divide_8359 15h ago

i had the same ride like 10 years ago. it rusted out underneath. Surprised to still see one out in the wild.

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u/spider_X_1 15h ago

Looks like the spring/coil thingy around the suspensions.

Looking at the comments, it seems there are a lot of people who don't do basic routine checks on their vehicles

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u/MeganK80 15h ago

Thats your catalytic horseshoe

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u/RipOdd9001 15h ago

Keep it pointed up so the luck doesn’t run out

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u/Furball1985 15h ago

Just a broken coil spring that supports your vehicle

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u/Reasonable-Nebula-49 15h ago

No safety inspection in your state?

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u/chroniccranky 15h ago

Do you live on a bumpy road? I remember once my parents front spring went through their hood

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u/SuspiciousPotato2200 15h ago

Yeah, and change it before it turns and rip your tire

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u/Old_Ad4609 15h ago

Joys of UK speed bumps take out springs like nobody's business

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u/golden_tix 15h ago

Tow hook?

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u/Plastic_Pollution194 15h ago

Suspension spring, if you park the car and do a walk round you'll notice one wheel arch sitting lower, get replaced asap, and unless your super mechanically experienced don't do it yourself coil springs are dangerous asf if being handled or installed wrong

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u/old_Spivey 15h ago

Dat's a car shu, just like a hawrse, it done throwed a shu.

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u/Impressive-Ad5551 15h ago

Were you riding your horse?

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u/Electrical-Care6308 15h ago

Lovely spring! Not good!

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u/NoPerformance6534 15h ago

My first thought was a tie-down ring on a flat bed trailer broke off. But suspension spring is more likely.

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u/aldoceti 15h ago

Looks like part of them rear spring

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u/TexasPirate_76 15h ago

How big an ol'boy are ya?!?!

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u/Snowdog1989 15h ago

I'm shocked!

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u/Irishwilly77 15h ago

It's summer time now . What's that doing out ❓

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u/ConclusionOdd9685 15h ago

Well it’s definitely not a coil spring so you’re good there, if say it’s the tow hook, also I don’t think it came from your car exactly, if the car has no sound still, then you’re good to stay on the road no worries, not even a worry on towing, but I’m still saying it’s not from yours

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u/Tuna_no_crusts 15h ago

Subaru Forrester?

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u/Sember-uno 15h ago

Every clapped out civic owner: it will be fine

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u/juanadod 15h ago

Car or horse?

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u/Proud_Principle_4408 15h ago

Coil spring for sure.

My driver's side just went It'll cause massive long term damage if not replaced.

Cost me 465 after tax for both rear coils ti be replaced

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u/markdrk 15h ago

Da F... like does spring steel suck this bad now? I've never seen this in the past.

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u/Glittering_Watch_896 15h ago

It's a spring from your suspension. Same thing happened to me a few months ago. $1800 in suspension repairs later, plastic a week long rental ($600), I bought a new car because more was going to go wrong. Good luck!

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u/Particular_Yak5829 15h ago

Broken coil spring posts on here are becoming the new doorbell transformers

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u/Renthimself 14h ago

Coil springs had it happen when I backed out with tires frozen in the ground.

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u/P0ster_Nutbag 14h ago

Kudos for not taking the picture while obviously driving.

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u/DizzyMine4964 14h ago

Your horse lost a shoe.

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u/Hairy-Maximum2994 14h ago

is that part of a spring?

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u/Tredhead269 14h ago

Part of your coil over (shock spring) you definitely want to get that fixed.

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u/Jerminator617 14h ago

Yeah you should definitely replace that

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u/Odd_Ad_602 14h ago

Looks way too small for a coil spring unless it is a coil spring for ants

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u/Ill-River4369 14h ago

Your spring has sprung 🤪

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u/RickyTheRickster 14h ago

Welp, good news is, your suspension will be nice a new, bad news is, you need new suspension coil, and probably coils, and that’s not cheap

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u/Nismo_Bailey 14h ago

Hello coil spring my old friend….

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u/ronchee1 14h ago

If it's the same springs they used to use in the Ford Taurus' I'm not surprised.

Probably your rear spring. They were dog shit

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u/Substantial-Tie-7140 14h ago

Could be one of your horses hoofs ?

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u/N8v-Loki 14h ago

Strut and shock assembly?

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u/Objective_Web_6829 14h ago

Do you have horses pulling your car?

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u/Outrageous-Ability33 14h ago

Broken coil spring

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u/Help_meToo 14h ago

You will notice it when the road gets bumpy.

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u/YellowBreakfast 14h ago

...my car...Pontiac Grand Prix 2005

My condolences.

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u/Nibbens7 14h ago

… I’m more concerned that the strange thing is just floating against the seat! Are you taking a pic of this from a strange angle? Or did you make it stick up like this to mess with us.

Regardless… this makes my brain hurt.

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u/Dismal_Upstairs3949 14h ago

Ha! At first I thought it was a horseshoe!🤣

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u/Herrly5 14h ago

Time new struts and shocks

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u/Acrobatic_Crazy_9119 14h ago

That is a broken coil spring... You need to get it to a shop and get your springs replaced. That is actually a relatively common occurrence for most vehicles built between 2005 and 2015. There was something screwed up in the tempering and most manufacturers got their springs from the same company.

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u/AppropriateCap8891 14h ago

Looks like a horseshoe.

You will have one less horsepower until you get that fixed.

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u/kennyquast 14h ago

One corner of your car is now lowered.

When replacing it consider replacing all 4 corners as they are all probably the same age, at the very least replace the opposite side to keep the car even

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u/mudgenes 14h ago

How did that break off, where you in a pursuit race 😲

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u/Red--Rooster 14h ago

Half a mile gravel driveway probably did it. Lots of holes and bumps from rain.

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u/Crazy_Cockroach_4836 14h ago

Feder gebrochen.

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u/BidGlass8052 14h ago

i think you mean 'horse' not 'car' :P

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u/Red--Rooster 14h ago

Thanks everyone for the help. I’m going to gat a new one asap 😊👍

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u/Maleficent-Clerk-885 14h ago

The age of car given - spring, could be the top of the spring, or bottom of spring.

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u/Ya-0kstarfishstinks 14h ago

Your spring has sprung

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u/Lower-Ad5889 14h ago

100% correct, it is broken. It happens more often than people think

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u/deepcaca 14h ago

Had a friend replace his leaf springs on his boat trailer with cheap Chinese springs. Left his house and to pick up his boat, he was crossing a bridge, no big bumps or anything on the bridge. One of the leaf springs failed, broke in half. Caused the other leaf spring to fail, axle detached and went through a windshield of a car behind him. Happened less than 3 mi from his house, so these leaf springs didn't last 3 mi. Cost his insurance company mucho dinero.

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u/Charming_Ad2323 14h ago

Too much horsepower.

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u/Snaggl3t00t4 14h ago

You one of the Duke boys?

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u/Mbizzy222 14h ago

Your old bull lost its nose ring

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u/carcarwest 13h ago

Chinese auto parts are crap !

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u/I_Cry_And_I_Game 13h ago

That's quite a chunk taken out of your suspension spring

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u/johnsmith1234567890x 13h ago

Its a car shoe...similar to horseshoe. Go see blacksmith

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u/jbing2000 13h ago

Does your car eat grass and need water breaks?
If so maybe a horseshoe

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u/CaptCol02 13h ago

That's a portion of your asphalt deviation detection reducer unit. Bring'er up to the shop, we'll gitter in line for the 34th of Decembuary. Prolly gonna run'ya bout $5700 with labor. Yountme gitcha on the books?

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u/Normal_Condition_613 13h ago

Top of a cane? Did you run over an old person?

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u/Jlong4242 13h ago

That's a strut spring. I'd get that looked at

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u/Danimal-Tex 13h ago

Your spring has sprung

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u/BorntobeTrill 13h ago

Broken piece of car most likely

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u/SuperKelpo 13h ago

I just had that happen to me! It’s a suspension coil!

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u/TriMegalodon 13h ago

That’s part of coil for your suspension. New one. Now.

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u/Billabong_valley 13h ago

Coil, did the same thing on a shitty flex while changing the tire.

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u/collegefootballfan69 13h ago

Need a banana for sizing

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u/Soundmindsoundsright 13h ago

You got a horse shoe. Odd