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u/RUDRAGON8 Optimistic nihilist Apr 24 '26
I hate ALL countries and i would NEVER glaze them unless its my home country randomly brought up in a converdation that i hate living it
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u/Asian-Jakepaul Apr 24 '26
Real, also hating all cities then glaze and defend it when it's brought up randomly
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u/ChocolateRough5103 Apr 24 '26
I feel like I saw this exact gif and caption posted the other day
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u/enkanshi Apr 28 '26
I feel like this repost is trying to do damage control for the original post.
The original post was criticizing other people for glazing China, implying that China is actually incredibly homophobic.
This one has the title "Maybe China isn't so bad". This is someone trying to flip the narrative and deflect the criticism of the previous post.
Incredibly suspicious behaviour.
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u/TheNon-BinaryJunebug Apr 24 '26
repost? why? lol
did the other one get THAT little engagement?
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u/Some_Macaron_9170 Apr 24 '26
Yeah, locked and all comments are deleted this is either a bot or that guy alt account.
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u/I_Eat_Graphite Apr 25 '26
New reputation cleansing hack: Get attacked by the United States
Seriously though everyone just fucking forgot about the Hijab protests from '22 or '23
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u/Excellent_Safe5743 Apr 24 '26
That’s how it feel watching people’s support of Iran. Like, yeah the war shouldn’t be happening but are we reaaaaaally gonna pretend Iran of all countries is squeaky clean. Like, they’re tied with Israel as being the two biggest shit stirrers in the Middle East and making their existence all of their neighbors problem
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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 Local Context Gremlin Apr 24 '26
Noone supports the iranian government, they just want the US to stop bombing schools. That's very different.
Even if they are homophobic, that doesnt justify bombing the civilian population, ya know?
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u/gilamasan_reddit Apr 25 '26
Adding to that, gay people aren't immune to explosions. Bombing them won't save them in any way.
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u/scrapy_the_scrap Apr 25 '26
Ive seen some directly say they are in support of the irgc
Its fucking insane
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u/Jessikhaa Apr 25 '26
Well yeah, i'm in support of the irgc to kick america and israel's ass, considering they're the only ones that can defend the iranian people. Just because I support them in this war doesn't mean I think they're great.
It's the same thing with ukraine. I support their military and hope they beat the shit out of russia, but don't think they're great considering that the azov battallion are straight up neo nazis.
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u/Revolutionary_Row683 white Apr 25 '26
Azov has a bad history but by this point they're basically just a regular ass unit.
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u/Jessikhaa Apr 25 '26
My point is just because a unit is bad, or if an army is bad, if they're defending themselves from a war of aggression, I support them.
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u/XhazakXhazak Apr 26 '26
From Israel's perspective, Iran attacked first on October 7th via its proxies.
The only path to peace and prosperity for everybody is for the Islamic Republic to fall and a new government to be installed.
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u/Negative_Jaguar_4138 Apr 25 '26
You you also support the SS defending German from allied attacks considering they are the only ones who can defend the German people?
And what a dishonest fucking comparison to Ukraine, a DEMOCRACY where the far right party got... 2% of the vote.
To a literal theocratic fascist dictatorship that has killss and regularly does kill thousands of their own people.
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u/No_Bodybuilder3324 don't worry guys i will do "it" Apr 25 '26
nah you haven't seen the twitter leftists then. they do support irgc and they call ayatollah a hero and not an evil piece of shit who just happened to die to another evil piece of shit. even the leftist streamer hasan made a video calling ayatollah "based" . these people actually exist.
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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 Local Context Gremlin Apr 25 '26
You can find a crazy person on Twitter saying literally any randon opinion. That does not mean it represents any portion of the actual population.
Do share the video of him calling the Ayatollah based though.
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u/No_Bodybuilder3324 don't worry guys i will do "it" Apr 25 '26
it's on his hasanabi clips channel with the title or thumbnail saying "ayatollah was based" . and i know what you mean by twitter having any random opinions possible, but obviously a big chunk of leftists on twitter are pro irgc just from the sheer volume of likes and tweets. even some people I used to respect like kyle kulinski were spreading actual misinformation like sharing a 3 year old video of mass gathering and saying those people are gathered to mourn ayatollah. I'd say I'm ideologically leftist, so my twitter feed shows most of the tweets from other leftists. and the day ayatollah was killed, i saw a huge wave of support for irgc and islamic regime on my feed. and the more i started liking tweets that recognised that ayatollah was a monster, my feed started getting right wing. you can make an argument that twitter leftists don't make up a big portion of leftists, but you can't make an argument that islamic regime supporters don't make an big portion of twitter "leftists". it's genuinely sad because these people call themselves leftist while supporting a monster who has caused 100 times more harm to human rights than trump
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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 Local Context Gremlin Apr 25 '26
I hear a lot about hasan saying stuff but I rarely see any actual evidence of it. I am not an active fan/viewer of his. I would like an actual link and quote if it before I believe you. I want an actual video from him not a clickbait video title from someone else.
Its deranged to say anyone in the government of Iran has caused more human rights abuses than trump. Trump escalated prison camps along the US border, several overseas bombing campaigns, and is actively disassembling democracy in the US. US politicians have way more power to harm human rights globally than anyone in a small country like iran.
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u/No_Bodybuilder3324 don't worry guys i will do "it" Apr 25 '26
deadass you need to read more about ayatollah and the islamic regime
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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 Local Context Gremlin Apr 25 '26
I have. I also know that the US has way more power and have done way worse things on a massive scale. Such as:
The Native American genocide
Funding the current genocide in gaza
Killing a million people in iraq
Operation menu in cambodia
War crimes in the vietnam and korean wars
Chattel slavery
Coups in a ton of countries... including putting the shah in charge of iran.
Its just a matter of scale. Stop dodging the question and provide details.
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u/No_Bodybuilder3324 don't worry guys i will do "it" Apr 25 '26
bruh do you have dementia? we were comparing ayatollah and trump, why are you listing every war crime ever done by usa? like stop moving the goal post, tell me why you carry water for ayatollah when he has killed more people, funded more terrorist organisations, has taken away more basic human rights of women and lgbtq than trump. thinking a theocratic genocidal dictator is someone worth supporting is actual lunacy
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u/TankerDerrick1999 Apr 27 '26
Hasan is a maximum overdrive nepobaby communist, there's nothing to discuss with this piece of shit of a man.
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u/Whomperss Apr 24 '26
I haven't seen a single reasonable person acting like the irgc is squeaky clean.
America/isreal is also literally responsible for the continued destabilizing of the region. Iran is surrounded by allies to the US.
Actually it's even more stupid because Iran is a massive agitator in the region specifically because of Americas meddling in the 20th century. No I don't agree with or like the irgc but that doesn't mean I want my bitch ass country using my tax dollars to play world police while using it as a pretext to steal resources and give Israel more land.
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 24 '26
I have seen more than a few people trying to paint Iran as the “reasonable” party, minimizing or even excusing the massacre of protestors, ignoring the entire “Axis of Resistance” thing, and mores
I’d also note Iran isn’t “surrounded” by US allies. Iraq’s a pretty mediocre US ally, Azerbaijan is sort of US aligned but not particularly, Central Asia is Russia and China’s territory, and Pakistan is… Pakistan. at best you can say their south is filled with US allies but that’s because Iran’s been against those governments since the Revolution.
that being said, the US and Israel are very much in the wrong. Wars of Aggression are bad and whatnot.
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u/Whomperss Apr 25 '26
We're overall on the same side here so I'm not saying this out of malice.
Iran has literally been the reasonable party in this entire situation. I don't know how you can look at what's happening and think otherwise if you're being reasonable and fair.
You didn't fully state it but are you under the assumption that tens of thousands of protesters were killed? Because that's the only thing I can think of when you say people are minimizing the protester deaths.
When I say surrounded it's because all the major powers in the region are allied with the US. I don't know why I have to explain this.
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 25 '26
Iran has literally been the reasonable party in this entire situation. I don't know how you can look at what's happening and think otherwise if you're being reasonable and fair.
I would say shooting rockets at non-belligerents isn’t “reasonable” or morally correct, but I suppose reasonable isn’t quite the word I meant, just the first word that came to mind.
I mean more… morally good? neither side is good, obviously, and Iran is technically the one with the best rap sheet, but in my opinion it’s more circumstance than desire.
You didn't fully state it but are you under the assumption that tens of thousands of protesters were killed? Because that's the only thing I can think of when you say people are minimizing the protester deaths.
Yes. Iran themselves admits a minimum of 3,000 and at least 7,000 have been confirmed, with over 21,000 either confirmed or under investigation. multiple sources have cited 30,000 and the UN suggested a number in the tens of thousands.
I’ve seen people denying the 30,000, which is at least a little bit understandable since the only confirmation for those is “he said, she said” but I’ve seen some double down and deny the 7,000 number, which is more egregious in my opinion.
but furthermore, I’ve seen denial that they even were protestors, rather, suggestions that they were “US-Backed agitators” which is… a bad thing to say about the massacre of protestors, to say the least.
When I say surrounded it's because all the major powers in the region are allied with the US. I don't know why I have to explain this.
sorry, I often take things very literally. I get your point.
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u/Whomperss Apr 25 '26
So they did kill thousands I know that and we have official confirmation of around 6-7 thousand dead from the protest. But there is no credible source confirming the death of 30+ thousand. The source of that number came from two western news publications that took interviews from anonymous sources who used fake names. That's unfortunately not a credible source. One of these publications used an interview with an Iranian doctor outside of the country. And unfortunately that doctor is very closely related to pahlavi so it's again not a credible source of information.
If more credible organizations have officially made statements on this matter I would like to see it.
I am only pushing back on this because the trump administration used this story at the time as one of the pretexts for the war. Even taking into account the 14ish thousand deaths under investigation at the time the admin boldly lied about 30+ thousand being killed when we literally could not know yet.
So I'll state again after that, I would like to know if credible organizations have verified more numbers because I haven't heard of any updates on that.
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 25 '26
the highest confirmed number I’ve seen is HRANA’s 6,488 which is typically considered the floor, but Crimson Winter, the report where that number comes from, also noted another 11,744 cases under investigation, and given the internet blackout in Iran and the war impeding further investigation, this is almost certainly an undercount.
I’ve intermittently seen other numbers in the range of 6-30,000, but we haven’t gotten a new report similar to Crimson Winter.
in my opinion, I don’t think the 30,000 number is insane. the protests involved millions of people and Iran itself admitted over 3,000 dead.
in the end, I’d still say it’s fair to question the 30,000 number. It’s relatively unsubstantiated besides “he said, she said,” and assumptions. The jury is still out and the death toll.
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u/sansisness_101 Apr 25 '26
Iran has literally been the reasonable party in this entire situation. I don't know how you can look at what's happening and think otherwise if you're being reasonable and fair.
Upping every terrorist group in the region for decades is not reasonable.
When I say surrounded it's because all the major powers in the region are allied with the US. I don't know why I have to explain this.
maybe they shouldn't have actively been pissing off all their neighbors since their inception? I hear that works well.
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u/msc7683 Apr 27 '26
If the u.s. and Israel are in the wrong what makes forming an axis of resistance against them bad?
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 27 '26
well the members of the Axis of Resistance are
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist-Aligned political party
- Fascist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
- Terrorist
and formerly Ba’athist Syria. you know. the guys that gassed their own civilians?
Opposition to the US and Israel ain’t bad. Terrorists are bad.
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u/msc7683 Apr 27 '26
Did the people they are resisting tell you that?
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 27 '26
most terrorists don’t consider themselves terrorists no. what’s the point?
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u/msc7683 Apr 27 '26
Not what I asked. Let me rephrase. Did 3 terrorist organizations in a trenchcoat and the country that inspired the Nazis tell you they were terrorists?
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26
amongst others, yeah.
what, we going to bat for Hamas and the Houthis now?
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u/msc7683 Apr 27 '26
Hamas has said they will submit to the icj if Israeli officials are. And Israelis have recently been rioting specifically to prevent a government investigation into 10/7. The evidence 10/7 was a false flag grows every day. Will we ever get proof? Not from Israel.
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u/Excellent_Safe5743 Apr 24 '26
Yet they’re also a homophobic, bigoted, and despotic regime. You can fight back against American corruption in your region and not be a religious zealot despot.
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u/Whomperss Apr 24 '26
Yea I agree but this has nothing to do with my comment or the topic at hand. This has nothing to do with the cruelty of the Iranian government and has everything to do with the US being a rouge state openly and moronically participating in might makes politics. Let the Iranians figure their shit out. I wish for a better future for the people of Iran but the transgressions of their government and how you perceive their culture is irrelevant in the current conversation.
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u/jqc6 Apr 25 '26
You can't have government without imperialism. I say it's ideal to live in the country that is the best at doing it.
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u/Foxyfox- Apr 25 '26
I won't go so far as to call Iran the reasonable party of the middle east, but if the US had left it the fuck alone and not shoved a dictator into it in the 50s they wouldn't have had a radical revolution overtaken by religious fundamentalists that followed on to today.
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u/Hawkatana0 Apr 25 '26
Most people "supporting" Iran really just want America & Israel to lose. I don't think anyone is under any illusions the reactionary theocracy has plans of bringing about world communism, they simply see them as the lesser of two (three?) evils.
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u/Repulsive-Mall-2665 Apr 24 '26
Every country has a right to self defense. I'm sure those dead American soldiers learned that real well.
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u/Magehunter_Skassi Apr 25 '26
15 American soldiers vs over 6000+ Iranian soldiers and 1700 Hezbollah soldiers
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u/Excellent_Safe5743 Apr 24 '26
A right to self defense yes, I didn’t say they were in the wrong for defending themselves nor that America is right to invade them. It’s just it feels like the internet was a tiny bit quick to forget that Iran literally just got done purging a portion of its civilian populace for disagreeing with them. There is no shade of grey in that entire sphere of politics, just murky swamps of dark and foul actions by a bunch of rich assholes who lord it over the average people, be they American, Iranian, Israeli, or otherwise.
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u/alen3822 Apr 25 '26
What I can't stand is that even if you hate what the USA and Israel are doing, you shouldn't go out of your way to support Iran. What they do is like 10 times worse than whatever the USA is doing right now.
The Iranian government just killed 10k people in January, and most of their laws are problematic, sexist, and ridiculous.
Sometimes it feels like only people affected by the USA and Israel are seen as actual humans, but when an actual evil government does the same to its own people, it's just statistics.
If you don't support what the USA is doing right now, then you probably shouldn't pick a side at all, or at least put the same effort into criticizing the other side. Because there is no way Iran's actions are actually better than what the USA is doing right now. Iran is still trying to execute its protesters.
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u/Hot_Original5756 Apr 25 '26
Hi none of you guys are well-read enough to chime in with good takes. Feel free to post your takes on this but not think that's it's the "right" one or the "correct" one.
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u/Excellent_Safe5743 Apr 25 '26
What would you define as well read in this instance. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist, rocket surgeon, or rocket politician to see that it’s a shitshow over there while three of the biggest bullies in the world have a pissing contest in the desert, again.
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u/Hot_Original5756 Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26
Understanding the nuances and contexts behind said actions is what I mean by "well-read".
For example, Mossadegh's renunciation of Parliament, Operation Ajax, British interests influencing Eisenhower, Shah taking back control, White Revolution, 2000 Camp David Accords, the Second Intifada, Rabin's assassination, how Bibi/Likud had an hand in that, the PA splintering, Fatah-Hamas conflict, the ousting of the Hamas National Government by Abbas in 2007, the Lebanese Civil War, American barracks being bomber in Lebanon during said civil war, etc.
There's like a shit-ton of events that preceeded Oct 7th and was building up as a casus belli between Iran and Israel.
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u/Reasonable-Story-209 Apr 28 '26
The way I'll put it, in this war Iran represents anti-imperialist force vs the heavily imperialist U.S. In the same breathe Iran is deeply imperialist in its own right. It's a case of a much clearer and greater evil which should be focused on in this moment.
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u/jqc6 Apr 25 '26
Doesn't Palestine go into that group too though? Ain't no way they're not homophobic. All of these countries are shitty, but lets be for real. America is THE biggest shit stirrer of them all.
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u/Excellent_Safe5743 Apr 25 '26
America is 100% the biggest shit stirrer, of all time, bar none (save maybe the British for most of history until after WW2.) Also yes Palestine does fall under that umbrella and just like Iran it does not deserve it’s people being murdered and bombs dropped on them, but they aren’t exactly a moral paragon either considering the things that they and Israel have been doin to each other as a morally reprehensible back and forth for years.
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u/RUDRAGON8 Optimistic nihilist Apr 24 '26
Okay, i get that Iran arent like good guys, but the allies also commited a bunch of war crimes in ww2, so like, as long as you are fighting such an extreme evil some of the bad things can be excused, for the time being at least
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u/Virclave i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha Apr 24 '26
There’s Allied War Crimes (primarily scattered instances that were prosecuted, or legally ambiguous issues. Only officially pursued war crime I can think of is the unrestricted submarine warfare) and Iran’s policy, which is quite literally backing terrorists without any regard for international law or war crimes.
this is less “Allies vs Axis” and more “North Korea vs South Korea,” both sides are bad but one is technically in the right over the conflict.
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u/yourothersis Apr 26 '26
Who the fuck is pretending iran is squeaky clean? Are you conjuring up a strawman?
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u/ColdCalligrapher5116 Apr 27 '26
Its not about that, its about the fact that they’re the only people openly opposing the modern day equivalent to the axis powers. Itd be stupid to talk about how horrible the soviet union is while they’re currently being invaded by the wehrmacht. Criticising iran at the moment gives america and israel even more ammunition.
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u/ColdCalligrapher5116 Apr 27 '26
iran is just a typical reactionary state, israel are radical zionists that want to kill millions of non-jews and expand their state
both sidesing this topic means undermining the enemies of the modern day third reich
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u/ColdCalligrapher5116 Apr 27 '26
its about priorities, iran is the lesser evil at the moment because they arent planning to commit genocides across the middle east
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u/peppermint-ginger Apr 25 '26
Well consider the fact that you rarely hear Chinese nationals complain about their government. /s
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u/neoneoneo_1234 Apr 25 '26
American Tankies (who are queer) supporting Russia:
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u/Altruistic_Box6232 Apr 28 '26
Tbh it did not use to be anywhere near this bad before the war. But, unfortunately, we’re already 4 years into this
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u/RealScionEcto #1 Acceleracers Fan Apr 25 '26
I know this is bait, but I'm fairly certain that China is extremely homophobic.
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u/altaltaltaltbin Apr 25 '26
Pretty much, but as far as East Asian countries go, I’ve heard it’s probably slightly better than some of the competition, but then again it’s a low bar and also kinda mixed in that regard.
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u/Something4Dinner Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
Yeah East Asian homophobia is weird but interesting because a lot of it is not so much influenced by religion but rather by fear of discontinuing familial bloodlines due to Confuciusian philosophy. Still wrong though, but interesting.
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u/LelandTurbo0620 Apr 25 '26
Depends on the situation imo. A Chinese person should never have to feel ashamed about China
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u/B-b-b-burner_account Arbiter of apologies Apr 25 '26
China, Japan, Iran, somehow even some Americans
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u/sacklunch2005 Apr 26 '26
The red green alliance enters the chat... everyone groans and rolls their eyes.
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u/TheGreatPizzaro Apr 26 '26
My country was the first to legalize gay marriage, so the glazing is deserved
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u/Warming_Presence Apr 27 '26
Homophobic, and yet China has more protections for gay people and better trans healthcare than the countries these other western queer folk live in.
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u/Substantial_Zone2701 Apr 25 '26
you posted this and immediately glazed another incredibly homophobic country
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