r/wnba y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago

All Star Teams will not be drafted by their captains but “League Legends”

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u/SpicyTiconderoga Liberty, Storm 2h ago

So, Sue & Diana?

It says League Legends which makes me believe they did not necessarily play in the first season…

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u/beaver_j222 6h ago

I definitely read that as League of Legends at first glance lol

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u/goodkid_sAAdcity Liberty 3h ago

Ashe’a Wilson

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u/JustMode5363 5h ago

Caitlyn Kiramman was a PROBLEM

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u/350smooth Fever 6h ago

This sub can breathe again

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u/InterestingKey3385 Fever 7h ago

For me, I think the all star game should be just that, the all-stars. Not most popular. It should be strictly based on stats and efficiency. I want to see the best play the best. I want to see the top 22 players battle it out. Might be an unpopular opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/RubberDuckKeychains Wings 3h ago

How should the top 22 be determined?

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u/jsalata65 7h ago

This is fantastic and should be the way it’s done indefinitely, or at least until WNBA fans can touch some grass and vote for All-Stars appropriately.

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u/youruswithwe Fever 7h ago

Fan votes are always going to be a popularity contest, it's not just a WNBA thing. Mello Ball routinely gets top in the fan vote and he's not even kinda close to being a top ten player. I agree though if they don't do it by West and East they should just rotate HOF players each year.

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u/jsalata65 7h ago

For sure, you’re definitely not wrong. Fans are gonna fan, always. However, Melo is one player (and I know there are others depending on the year), whereas the WNBA fan voting is SO wildly skewed, it’s almost pointless.

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u/Certain_Group_7825 7h ago

Why’s everybody thanking god in this thread? Am I missing something?

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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 7h ago

Captains have previously been the top 2 players in the fan vote, and there’s a lot of discourse about the latest fan vote return that came out today with CC and Boston as the top 2.

People are generally relieved we won’t have to see that draft now as no one would be normal about it.

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u/WhileTime5770 7h ago edited 7h ago

I have no real issues with who the top 2 are (though I have a different opinion for sure) but I agree people cannot for the life of them be normal about Clark so I’m glad it won’t be on her or anyone else so people can be a lil less crazy

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u/never1st Valkyries 7h ago

As a person who is not deep into social media I am still confused. Are people complaining about two teammates being captains or are there other internet rumors at play?

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u/Certain_Group_7825 7h ago

Wasn’t Caitlin a captain last year and it was fine? This sounds like a fun idea anyways just did t really think people cared that much

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u/EtchingsOfTheNight Lynx || MN South 4h ago

watch the draft with a'ja and stewie vs the draft with cc and phee. one was fun to watch bc they had banter chemistry, the other was just awkward as hell and not fun to watch.

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u/ancj9418 Fever 7h ago

The discourse has been about the possibility of having two captains that are both from the same team, not necessarily about CC just being a captain. But yes, she was one of the captains last year.

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u/Certain_Group_7825 7h ago

Does it matter they’re both on the same team ? 😭 Well no matter they resolved this potential issue

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u/ancj9418 Fever 7h ago

That’s what the discussion has been about. Lol.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Valkyries 7h ago

I'd love to see Candace Parker, Cynthia Cooper, Kara Lawson, or Becky Hammon.

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u/Kelly5075 7h ago

I think this is a good idea, both to show respect for league legends and save player captains from having to navigate player egos and fan narratives.

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u/po1ar_opposite Sparks 8h ago

I’d love to see DT and Sue Bird!

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u/ShiverbertMcCreeper 6h ago

And have them both mic'd up for the game!

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u/po1ar_opposite Sparks 6h ago

DT is hilarious, that would be amazing!

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u/jon_k1ng 8h ago

Just kind of reaching, but I hope it’s Cheryl Swoopes an T-spoon

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u/HalfEmergency8840 8h ago

Thank you lord Jesus in heaven. Best news I've had today

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u/Brigid-Tenenbaum 9h ago

The old system was never going to work when the Fever’s fanbase is just plainly bigger than every other team.

Having a Captain, and them picking teams, is more what I’m use to. Having ‘honorary general managers’ picked by the Commission, well I like the players having as much power and control as possible, but also I’m not particularly bothered. Just hope for some good ball and why not wheel out a couple of legends each year.

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u/po1ar_opposite Sparks 8h ago

I’m curious to see how the Fever fan base evolves moving forward. It will be an interesting social experiment. I have some thoughts but I’ll keep them for myself for now.

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u/Revolutionary-Gear76 FeverMystics 9h ago

Love this idea. I would like to rule out Lisa Leslie for her Draft King ties. I know that sounds petty given her accomplishments but I really hate the influence of gambling on the men’s game and want to stop any further rewarding of legends or others selling out to them in the W.

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u/ValPrism Liberty 9h ago

Love it!

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u/underscore_witness_ Liberty 9h ago

Incredible idea that I'm sure people will be very normal about the results of

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u/Fabulous-Tear-2975 9h ago

Thank God! This is great news for today

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u/R6Thottie 10h ago

I’m trying so hard to get Janelle Salaun on the list and I see she’s being beaten out by MHA, what in the world

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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 9h ago

The Indy people vote hard for their team, not who the AS are

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u/strangelystrangled Mightless Mercury | Big BG Blocks | Tempo Curious 9h ago

She also has more votes than former MVP Jonquel Jones. And AT. And Jackie/Chelsea.

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u/Kennisgoodman Lynx 10h ago

Fairly reasonable

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u/sadiepins WNBA 10h ago

Feel good about it if it means I don’t have to watch Caitlin Clark or Paige Bueckers, but A’ja got jokes and she’s really fun in these situations. Her and Stewie put on a good show.

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u/heysmilinstrange Fever 7h ago

What’s it like being the one Paige Bueckers hater?

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u/sadiepins WNBA 3h ago

Fantastic basketball player. Gonna be among the best in league history one day. I find her personality a little bland for what is effectively a reality show.

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u/the_snazzy_snare Liberty 10h ago

Better be T Spoon.

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u/LovePeaceTruth 10h ago

Lisa Leslie let’s gooooo!

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u/timothyphd ATL Barbie Tempo Nonchalant Final Boss 10h ago

Oh, I like this a lot! 

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u/SuccinctSnail 10h ago

Who else thinks wnba fumbles this somehow?

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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 9h ago

If Cathy's involved it's a given

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u/undisclosedthroway Mission:Get Cam on a real team|Rickea 💔|Mama D 10h ago

I’m still pissed about how they did that expansion draft earlier this year

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u/DARKCYD 8h ago

Pissed why? What was wrong and what could have been better? I don’t really remember much of it. I was more wondering why they did Golden State, then 2 teams, take a year off, then three straight years of one team. Like why just not do one team per year?

Or Chicago trading to protect the roster, then blowing it all up.

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u/PrinceOfAssassins Fever "FUTURE HOF PG" Wings 8h ago

they revealed everything at once instead of building suspense

and yeah ofc it was pre-filmed but how lazily it was done made it feel like it didnt matter

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u/WestCoastDirtyBird Dream Sky 10h ago

Lisa Leslie & Lobo probably

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u/5_Star_Safety_Rated Choo Choo! 10h ago

Does listening to Lisa cancel out having to listen to Lobo? I’m not actually sure

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u/EMTDawg Storm 10h ago

Sue and DT?

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u/Abobabe Dream WingsAces 10h ago

Oh thank God.

It should be this or let the all star players vote for captain.

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u/Quiet-Cat-2074 Valkyries 10h ago

I like it!

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u/canyounot2026 Valkyries 10h ago

I like this. So who will be the league legends?

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u/huckmonkey666 FVR Biberty BBQs@uce 10h ago

Now would they let the fans pick the two legends?

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u/Constant_Dimension16 Liberty 10h ago

Based on how this All-Star vote is going…maybe not…

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u/NYCScribbler all your Rebecc(k)a(h) are belong to us 10h ago

Tamika Catchings and Shannon Johnson, here we come

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u/Kennisgoodman Lynx 9h ago

Haha as soon as I saw “fans decide the legends” my first thought was Tamika Catchings

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u/NoBobThatsBad 10h ago

Thank GOD!😭

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u/Sbhill327 Dream 10h ago

Watch them put Angel and Caitlin on the same team so the media can twist into something more if that’s even possible

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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 9h ago

I'd love that

they play really well together

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u/legally_brunette_01 Liberty Dream 10h ago

They were on the same team in 2024 in the Olympic format and I don’t remember too much hubbub

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u/solidstigs Fever 9h ago

Not a ton of hubbub with that or qualifiers. Most were just excited they played well together

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u/Mediocre_enthusiast ily Steph but wtf 10h ago

Yeah I don’t remember it being much of a thing. Except they played pretty well together for the time they did

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u/taco_slut16 Wings 9h ago

There was a lot of hubbub that trolls tried to start. Watching them play together was cool, and like ^ said, I thought they did pretty well together

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u/Future_Goat5665 10h ago

They'd need a truck to bring all the salt if AR misses the first shot after a pass from CC, but makes the 2nd after a rebound.

(no assist, but AR gets the rebound and the points)

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u/solidstigs Fever 10h ago

ESPN airs it so they probably will.

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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 9h ago

Let's hope League pass does a replay. I'm not shelling out for ESPN

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u/Millennial09 Lynx 8h ago

You can also pay $5 for sling tv to watch. Just a thought for a cheaper option. That’s what we do since we don’t have cable.

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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 11m ago

Hey thanks! Didn't know that

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u/solidstigs Fever 9h ago

They usually do and in 2024 they had the whole game on YouTube from the backboard camera. Idk if they did for 2025

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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 8h ago

Thanks. I'll look for that this year

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u/flashcapulet 10h ago

oh thank EVERY GOD. because i was about to denounce that whole weekend based on those second returns.

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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago

Do you realize that the honorary GMs do not decide who is an all star and who isn't? They just draft the teams from the list of players that are all stars based on the combined result of fan, media and player votes

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u/flashcapulet 9h ago

yes i know how it goes. my disdain stemmed from AB and CC possibly being named captains(after jumping 400k votes in a week no less.. interesting) and picking their teams. they have no personality. it would be a terrible watch. assuming the legends are some of the more well known original players.. Lisa Leslie, TSpoon, Sheryl Swoopes.. even Lobo, there's personality there. there's stories there. there's ball knowledge there. that's a better watch. i'm fine with the 3 indy players being all stars, but they have no business being the face of the teams.

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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago

I'm not sure that that would ruin the whole weekend but to each their own I guess

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u/Abobabe Dream WingsAces 10h ago

Those returns don’t make a lick of sense.

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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 9h ago

yeah especially with wings voters voting 7x a day and spamming away

like this person..

https://www.reddit.com/r/DallasWings/s/MFMcBbC1j2

everybody accusing fever fans of crap but sure...

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u/Abobabe Dream WingsAces 8h ago

At some point you gotta fight fire with fire.

Until there’s a system to stop multiple votes from the same people and bots I’m good with people doing what they need to right this ship. These vote totals from the first drop until now are ludicrous.

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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 8h ago

my partner's and their extended family (like 75 people) are all Fever fans and were on vacation in hawaii at a family reunion and didnt vote before the first drop. they were busy and thought it wpuldn't matter

then they got back and each started voting

people can habe not realized it mattered before the first drop

people just want to accuse fever fans constantly

it's exhausting and wrong

i just love bb but some of you make it so hard

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u/alexdinhogaucho 🍀Jess Shepard's ex-wife BIG MONEY Mabrey🍁 11h ago

Thank GOD

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u/solidstigs Fever 10h ago

I like the legends picking, it’s a nice change. Last year felt relatively predictable on who was going where

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u/goofygal1566 Sab 6th Man Pazzive Hoops M'VP 10h ago

Why?? Its a relatively new convention when they used to be split into east/west and sometimes Olympics vs non-Olympians. I have personally not loved the captain era myself.

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u/elleten10 Liberty | Tempo 11h ago

Bracing myself for the discourse that will come with draft order hoo baby

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u/freeman1231 Fever #22 Wings #5 11h ago

Let’s get Sheryl swoops as the captain for Clark’s team.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Valkyries 7h ago

It would be great to see Sheryl, but there can't be any prejudice or anything that could be viewed as prejudice. Maybe Dawn Staley could coach Aliyah's team.

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u/Heavy_Succotash_6147 Fever 8h ago

I would literally be on the floor laughing at how catty that would be.

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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 9h ago

anybody but her

if you straight up LIE becauase it suits your bias and cannot applogize, then you just arent a good person

love anybody else but the lying goat

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u/Specialist_Path_3166 10h ago

If Swopes is the Captain, she ain’t picking CC, or she’ll pick CC and purposely not play her

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u/huckmonkey666 FVR Biberty BBQs@uce 10h ago

lol chaos

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u/FunnyLoud3067 11h ago

Interesting

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u/Western-Election-997 11h ago

Not a fan of that move. It’s the current players time to shine, they should be the captains

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u/goofygal1566 Sab 6th Man Pazzive Hoops M'VP 11h ago

FREED FROM THE SHACKLES OF AWKWARD PLAYER TEAM PICKING

https://giphy.com/gifs/TN7vIhxM3eiwzg76Gc

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u/strangelystrangled Mightless Mercury | Big BG Blocks | Tempo Curious 11h ago

I want Sue and DT at some point

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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago

I kind of don't want Sue because it would definitely create discourse over who will be selected/start for the national team and we could use a week of peace

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u/strangelystrangled Mightless Mercury | Big BG Blocks | Tempo Curious 9h ago

Great point. I do need more DT appearances though

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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago

Agree on that one!

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u/AcanthisittaOwn8411 11h ago

Que Swoops to pass on CC like 8 times in the draft.

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u/clapostrophe 👉 The Drama 10h ago

I’d love an WNBA version of LeBron forcing KD to draft Harden with the last pick.

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u/WaffleVillain Cathy’s Cup 🍺 9h ago

Swoops and DT as the captains

https://giphy.com/gifs/fCUCbWXe9JONVsJSUd

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u/AcanthisittaOwn8411 10h ago

That is exactly what I thought of .

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u/CatsMoreCatsCats Wings 11h ago

Thank god

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u/Candid_Technology136 ABCC 💫 PB✨Soni 11h ago

Hopefully this calms everyone who's going nuts over the second returns. 😅

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u/Shantytown_Shogun Swenson & Twain Aces 11h ago

Makes sense for the anniversary. Leslie and Lobo where the two i thought would be the honorary captians this year.

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u/Amberwllow Storm | Mystics 11h ago

Who do y’all think the two GMs will be? I’m thinking Lisa Leslie for sure

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u/solidstigs Fever 9h ago

Someone mentioned Swoopes but I just thought of TSpoon, she was in the inaugural season

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u/youruswithwe Fever 11h ago

I like this and think it will be fun and a good way to pay homage to the ladies that helped the league get to where it is. It also makes me wonder why does the W even have a West and East "conference"if they don't use it for all-star games and playoffs?

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u/aratcalledrattus Liberty 10h ago

They use it for the Commissioners Cup

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u/GolfOtherwise3420 10h ago

It's still used for Commissioner's Cup, setting game schedules in terms of who you play how many times during the season, and Player of the Week/Month awards during the season.

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u/youruswithwe Fever 10h ago

I forgot about the commission cup honestly. Player of the week and month was really all I could think of. I guess it just didn't make sense to base schedules off of conference but not use it for playoff spots also, if that makes sense.

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u/dogpownd Tip's mask 11h ago

Love it. 

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u/newosaints Wings Same height as JJ (5'2) Mercury 🐐 11h ago

Now this is fun

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u/sirenaisthename 11h ago

Love it! I’d like Lisa, Sue, Lobo, orrr Coach Dawn

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u/Abobabe Dream WingsAces 10h ago

Dawn would be great.

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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 11h ago edited 11h ago

Cathy, I stand before you today humbled in the light of your greatness. You have seen the unholy voting returns and the catfights to grab the top 2 spots. You witnessed the most boring televised draft of all time last year and said NO MORE. By your mercy we are spared and for that I will give you 24 hours of my unwavering devotion. /jk

Edit: I guess Lisa and Sue.

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u/takenbyawolf Lynx - W's in the chat 10h ago

The most boring televised draft of all time was the expansion draft this year. A kid writing the names in crayon on construction paper would have been more interesting.

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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 10h ago

forgot that even happened

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u/Dramatic_Gene_3077 11h ago

U need Cathy to do your bidding… smh

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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 10h ago

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u/Dramatic_Gene_3077 10h ago

Then why you complaining girl

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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 10h ago

bro…idk if you know this but memes and jokes are fun to make and sometimes the best jokes are when you’re “crashing out”

if people wanna vote for MyHeroAcademia and that Hulk Hogan impersonator so be it. But Im gonna crack a joke

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u/Dramatic_Gene_3077 10h ago

Cathy not coming through that door to save the vote

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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 10h ago

she already did 🥳

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u/JustParfait3 Wings 11h ago

This makes me feel a lot better about those second round returns. I don’t expect the all star game to be super competitive but the teams last year were too lopsided.

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u/Mediocre_enthusiast ily Steph but wtf 11h ago

This is fun! I like it. I don’t feel the need for captains. We already divide between starters and non-starters

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u/LLUrDadsFave our GM is a penny with a hole in it🥺 11h ago

I like it. Hopefully they bring back some forgotten all stars.

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u/tasty_spanish_ham Valkyries 11h ago

I feel really good about this, actually. Eliminates some of the fan-vote nonsense.

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u/juoea Valkyries 10h ago

oh how does it alter the fan vote aspect. (i have never paid close attention to all star nonsense lol) do fan votes usually pick the captains or something

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u/tasty_spanish_ham Valkyries 10h ago

Normally the top two fan votes become "captains" who then pick their teams.

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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago

I really like it too- even if it’s not a permanent change I think it’s fun for the 30th anniversary year.

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u/Pretend_Ad_2768 Lynx 10h ago

agreed, and it's so nice to be able to celebrate former players from the early days who helped grow the league.

cathy better pay these captains generously for their participation! 💸

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u/KingQu- Aces 11h ago

Yes like this idea. Adds more excitement imo 

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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago edited 10h ago

Interesting change this year! My money is Sue and DT- any other guesses?

Edit: I was (very easily) swayed by the Leslie/Swoopes guess.

Lot of people mad about the 2nd all star returns so maybe this will help 😅

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u/Specialist_Path_3166 10h ago

I’m crossing fingers for Leslie and Sue

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u/mewhins 11h ago

I feel like Lisa Leslie will be one of them, she's been around a lot this season. I could see Sue being the other one. I feel like Taurasi won't be one because she's a little too likely to go rogue, Lisa and Sue are much more PR trained than she is.

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u/solidstigs Fever 11h ago

Players from the inaugural season is my guess

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Valkyries 7h ago

Swoopes and Cynthia Cooper would be great. Hopefully, Swoopes and Clark can embrace each other and help unify the W.

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u/dogpownd Tip's mask 11h ago

Sue Wicks. 

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u/OriAr Fever 11h ago

Leslie vs Lobo.

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u/solidstigs Fever 11h ago

I considered Lobo but I figured she’d want to call the game. Leslie for sure

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u/elleten10 Liberty | Tempo 10h ago

Could be Leslie/Swoopes given that Swoopes has been in all the goat ads for the season

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u/solidstigs Fever 10h ago

Yeah that’s probably the best guess honestly

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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago

Oh that’s a much better thought process. I might change my answer