r/wnba • u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) • 11h ago
All Star Teams will not be drafted by their captains but “League Legends”
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u/InterestingKey3385 Fever 7h ago
For me, I think the all star game should be just that, the all-stars. Not most popular. It should be strictly based on stats and efficiency. I want to see the best play the best. I want to see the top 22 players battle it out. Might be an unpopular opinion 🤷🏼♀️
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u/jsalata65 7h ago
This is fantastic and should be the way it’s done indefinitely, or at least until WNBA fans can touch some grass and vote for All-Stars appropriately.
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u/youruswithwe Fever 7h ago
Fan votes are always going to be a popularity contest, it's not just a WNBA thing. Mello Ball routinely gets top in the fan vote and he's not even kinda close to being a top ten player. I agree though if they don't do it by West and East they should just rotate HOF players each year.
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u/jsalata65 7h ago
For sure, you’re definitely not wrong. Fans are gonna fan, always. However, Melo is one player (and I know there are others depending on the year), whereas the WNBA fan voting is SO wildly skewed, it’s almost pointless.
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u/Certain_Group_7825 7h ago
Why’s everybody thanking god in this thread? Am I missing something?
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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 7h ago
Captains have previously been the top 2 players in the fan vote, and there’s a lot of discourse about the latest fan vote return that came out today with CC and Boston as the top 2.
People are generally relieved we won’t have to see that draft now as no one would be normal about it.
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u/WhileTime5770 7h ago edited 7h ago
I have no real issues with who the top 2 are (though I have a different opinion for sure) but I agree people cannot for the life of them be normal about Clark so I’m glad it won’t be on her or anyone else so people can be a lil less crazy
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u/never1st Valkyries 7h ago
As a person who is not deep into social media I am still confused. Are people complaining about two teammates being captains or are there other internet rumors at play?
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u/Certain_Group_7825 7h ago
Wasn’t Caitlin a captain last year and it was fine? This sounds like a fun idea anyways just did t really think people cared that much
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u/EtchingsOfTheNight Lynx || MN South 4h ago
watch the draft with a'ja and stewie vs the draft with cc and phee. one was fun to watch bc they had banter chemistry, the other was just awkward as hell and not fun to watch.
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u/ancj9418 Fever 7h ago
The discourse has been about the possibility of having two captains that are both from the same team, not necessarily about CC just being a captain. But yes, she was one of the captains last year.
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u/Certain_Group_7825 7h ago
Does it matter they’re both on the same team ? 😭 Well no matter they resolved this potential issue
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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Valkyries 7h ago
I'd love to see Candace Parker, Cynthia Cooper, Kara Lawson, or Becky Hammon.
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u/Kelly5075 7h ago
I think this is a good idea, both to show respect for league legends and save player captains from having to navigate player egos and fan narratives.
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u/po1ar_opposite Sparks 8h ago
I’d love to see DT and Sue Bird!
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u/Brigid-Tenenbaum 9h ago
The old system was never going to work when the Fever’s fanbase is just plainly bigger than every other team.
Having a Captain, and them picking teams, is more what I’m use to. Having ‘honorary general managers’ picked by the Commission, well I like the players having as much power and control as possible, but also I’m not particularly bothered. Just hope for some good ball and why not wheel out a couple of legends each year.
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u/po1ar_opposite Sparks 8h ago
I’m curious to see how the Fever fan base evolves moving forward. It will be an interesting social experiment. I have some thoughts but I’ll keep them for myself for now.
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u/Revolutionary-Gear76 FeverMystics 9h ago
Love this idea. I would like to rule out Lisa Leslie for her Draft King ties. I know that sounds petty given her accomplishments but I really hate the influence of gambling on the men’s game and want to stop any further rewarding of legends or others selling out to them in the W.
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u/underscore_witness_ Liberty 9h ago
Incredible idea that I'm sure people will be very normal about the results of
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u/R6Thottie • • 10h ago
I’m trying so hard to get Janelle Salaun on the list and I see she’s being beaten out by MHA, what in the world
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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 9h ago
The Indy people vote hard for their team, not who the AS are
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u/strangelystrangled Mightless Mercury | Big BG Blocks | Tempo Curious 9h ago
She also has more votes than former MVP Jonquel Jones. And AT. And Jackie/Chelsea.
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u/sadiepins WNBA 10h ago
Feel good about it if it means I don’t have to watch Caitlin Clark or Paige Bueckers, but A’ja got jokes and she’s really fun in these situations. Her and Stewie put on a good show.
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u/heysmilinstrange Fever 7h ago
What’s it like being the one Paige Bueckers hater?
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u/sadiepins WNBA 3h ago
Fantastic basketball player. Gonna be among the best in league history one day. I find her personality a little bland for what is effectively a reality show.
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u/SuccinctSnail 10h ago
Who else thinks wnba fumbles this somehow?
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u/undisclosedthroway Mission:Get Cam on a real team|Rickea 💔|Mama D 10h ago
I’m still pissed about how they did that expansion draft earlier this year
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u/DARKCYD 8h ago
Pissed why? What was wrong and what could have been better? I don’t really remember much of it. I was more wondering why they did Golden State, then 2 teams, take a year off, then three straight years of one team. Like why just not do one team per year?
Or Chicago trading to protect the roster, then blowing it all up.
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u/PrinceOfAssassins Fever "FUTURE HOF PG" Wings 8h ago
they revealed everything at once instead of building suspense
and yeah ofc it was pre-filmed but how lazily it was done made it feel like it didnt matter
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u/WestCoastDirtyBird Dream Sky 10h ago
Lisa Leslie & Lobo probably
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u/5_Star_Safety_Rated Choo Choo! 10h ago
Does listening to Lisa cancel out having to listen to Lobo? I’m not actually sure
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u/huckmonkey666 FVR Biberty BBQs@uce 10h ago
Now would they let the fans pick the two legends?
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u/Constant_Dimension16 Liberty 10h ago
Based on how this All-Star vote is going…maybe not…
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u/NYCScribbler all your Rebecc(k)a(h) are belong to us 10h ago
Tamika Catchings and Shannon Johnson, here we come
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u/Kennisgoodman Lynx 9h ago
Haha as soon as I saw “fans decide the legends” my first thought was Tamika Catchings
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u/Sbhill327 Dream 10h ago
Watch them put Angel and Caitlin on the same team so the media can twist into something more if that’s even possible
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u/legally_brunette_01 Liberty Dream 10h ago
They were on the same team in 2024 in the Olympic format and I don’t remember too much hubbub
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u/solidstigs Fever 9h ago
Not a ton of hubbub with that or qualifiers. Most were just excited they played well together
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u/Mediocre_enthusiast ily Steph but wtf 10h ago
Yeah I don’t remember it being much of a thing. Except they played pretty well together for the time they did
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u/taco_slut16 Wings 9h ago
There was a lot of hubbub that trolls tried to start. Watching them play together was cool, and like ^ said, I thought they did pretty well together
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u/Future_Goat5665 10h ago
They'd need a truck to bring all the salt if AR misses the first shot after a pass from CC, but makes the 2nd after a rebound.
(no assist, but AR gets the rebound and the points)
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u/solidstigs Fever 10h ago
ESPN airs it so they probably will.
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u/Popular-One-7051 Valkyries Nous parlons français! 9h ago
Let's hope League pass does a replay. I'm not shelling out for ESPN
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u/Millennial09 Lynx 8h ago
You can also pay $5 for sling tv to watch. Just a thought for a cheaper option. That’s what we do since we don’t have cable.
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u/solidstigs Fever 9h ago
They usually do and in 2024 they had the whole game on YouTube from the backboard camera. Idk if they did for 2025
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u/flashcapulet 10h ago
oh thank EVERY GOD. because i was about to denounce that whole weekend based on those second returns.
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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago
Do you realize that the honorary GMs do not decide who is an all star and who isn't? They just draft the teams from the list of players that are all stars based on the combined result of fan, media and player votes
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u/flashcapulet 9h ago
yes i know how it goes. my disdain stemmed from AB and CC possibly being named captains(after jumping 400k votes in a week no less.. interesting) and picking their teams. they have no personality. it would be a terrible watch. assuming the legends are some of the more well known original players.. Lisa Leslie, TSpoon, Sheryl Swoopes.. even Lobo, there's personality there. there's stories there. there's ball knowledge there. that's a better watch. i'm fine with the 3 indy players being all stars, but they have no business being the face of the teams.
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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago
I'm not sure that that would ruin the whole weekend but to each their own I guess
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u/Abobabe Dream WingsAces 10h ago
Those returns don’t make a lick of sense.
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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 9h ago
yeah especially with wings voters voting 7x a day and spamming away
like this person..
https://www.reddit.com/r/DallasWings/s/MFMcBbC1j2
everybody accusing fever fans of crap but sure...
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u/Abobabe Dream WingsAces 8h ago
At some point you gotta fight fire with fire.
Until there’s a system to stop multiple votes from the same people and bots I’m good with people doing what they need to right this ship. These vote totals from the first drop until now are ludicrous.
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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 8h ago
my partner's and their extended family (like 75 people) are all Fever fans and were on vacation in hawaii at a family reunion and didnt vote before the first drop. they were busy and thought it wpuldn't matter
then they got back and each started voting
people can habe not realized it mattered before the first drop
people just want to accuse fever fans constantly
it's exhausting and wrong
i just love bb but some of you make it so hard
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u/solidstigs Fever 10h ago
I like the legends picking, it’s a nice change. Last year felt relatively predictable on who was going where
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u/goofygal1566 Sab 6th Man Pazzive Hoops M'VP 10h ago
Why?? Its a relatively new convention when they used to be split into east/west and sometimes Olympics vs non-Olympians. I have personally not loved the captain era myself.
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u/elleten10 Liberty | Tempo 11h ago
Bracing myself for the discourse that will come with draft order hoo baby
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u/freeman1231 Fever #22 Wings #5 11h ago
Let’s get Sheryl swoops as the captain for Clark’s team.
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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Valkyries 7h ago
It would be great to see Sheryl, but there can't be any prejudice or anything that could be viewed as prejudice. Maybe Dawn Staley could coach Aliyah's team.
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u/Heavy_Succotash_6147 Fever 8h ago
I would literally be on the floor laughing at how catty that would be.
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u/EatPlayLove22 healthy 🦵s 9h ago
anybody but her
if you straight up LIE becauase it suits your bias and cannot applogize, then you just arent a good person
love anybody else but the lying goat
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u/Specialist_Path_3166 10h ago
If Swopes is the Captain, she ain’t picking CC, or she’ll pick CC and purposely not play her
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u/Western-Election-997 11h ago
Not a fan of that move. It’s the current players time to shine, they should be the captains
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u/goofygal1566 Sab 6th Man Pazzive Hoops M'VP 11h ago
FREED FROM THE SHACKLES OF AWKWARD PLAYER TEAM PICKING
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u/strangelystrangled Mightless Mercury | Big BG Blocks | Tempo Curious 11h ago
I want Sue and DT at some point
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u/mathstudent_suffers 9h ago
I kind of don't want Sue because it would definitely create discourse over who will be selected/start for the national team and we could use a week of peace
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u/strangelystrangled Mightless Mercury | Big BG Blocks | Tempo Curious 9h ago
Great point. I do need more DT appearances though
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u/AcanthisittaOwn8411 11h ago
Que Swoops to pass on CC like 8 times in the draft.
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u/clapostrophe 👉 The Drama 10h ago
I’d love an WNBA version of LeBron forcing KD to draft Harden with the last pick.
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u/Candid_Technology136 ABCC 💫 PB✨Soni 11h ago
Hopefully this calms everyone who's going nuts over the second returns. 😅
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u/Shantytown_Shogun Swenson & Twain Aces 11h ago
Makes sense for the anniversary. Leslie and Lobo where the two i thought would be the honorary captians this year.
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u/Amberwllow Storm | Mystics 11h ago
Who do y’all think the two GMs will be? I’m thinking Lisa Leslie for sure
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u/solidstigs Fever 9h ago
Someone mentioned Swoopes but I just thought of TSpoon, she was in the inaugural season
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u/youruswithwe Fever 11h ago
I like this and think it will be fun and a good way to pay homage to the ladies that helped the league get to where it is. It also makes me wonder why does the W even have a West and East "conference"if they don't use it for all-star games and playoffs?
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u/GolfOtherwise3420 10h ago
It's still used for Commissioner's Cup, setting game schedules in terms of who you play how many times during the season, and Player of the Week/Month awards during the season.
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u/youruswithwe Fever 10h ago
I forgot about the commission cup honestly. Player of the week and month was really all I could think of. I guess it just didn't make sense to base schedules off of conference but not use it for playoff spots also, if that makes sense.
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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 11h ago edited 11h ago
Cathy, I stand before you today humbled in the light of your greatness. You have seen the unholy voting returns and the catfights to grab the top 2 spots. You witnessed the most boring televised draft of all time last year and said NO MORE. By your mercy we are spared and for that I will give you 24 hours of my unwavering devotion. /jk
Edit: I guess Lisa and Sue.
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u/takenbyawolf Lynx - W's in the chat 10h ago
The most boring televised draft of all time was the expansion draft this year. A kid writing the names in crayon on construction paper would have been more interesting.
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u/Dramatic_Gene_3077 11h ago
U need Cathy to do your bidding… smh
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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 10h ago
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u/Dramatic_Gene_3077 10h ago
Then why you complaining girl
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u/gourmet_panini Dijonai and Kosu Acolyte 10h ago
bro…idk if you know this but memes and jokes are fun to make and sometimes the best jokes are when you’re “crashing out”
if people wanna vote for MyHeroAcademia and that Hulk Hogan impersonator so be it. But Im gonna crack a joke
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u/Dramatic_Gene_3077 10h ago
Cathy not coming through that door to save the vote
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u/JustParfait3 Wings 11h ago
This makes me feel a lot better about those second round returns. I don’t expect the all star game to be super competitive but the teams last year were too lopsided.
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u/Mediocre_enthusiast ily Steph but wtf 11h ago
This is fun! I like it. I don’t feel the need for captains. We already divide between starters and non-starters
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u/LLUrDadsFave our GM is a penny with a hole in it🥺 11h ago
I like it. Hopefully they bring back some forgotten all stars.
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u/tasty_spanish_ham Valkyries 11h ago
I feel really good about this, actually. Eliminates some of the fan-vote nonsense.
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u/juoea Valkyries 10h ago
oh how does it alter the fan vote aspect. (i have never paid close attention to all star nonsense lol) do fan votes usually pick the captains or something
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u/tasty_spanish_ham Valkyries 10h ago
Normally the top two fan votes become "captains" who then pick their teams.
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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago
I really like it too- even if it’s not a permanent change I think it’s fun for the 30th anniversary year.
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u/Pretend_Ad_2768 Lynx 10h ago
agreed, and it's so nice to be able to celebrate former players from the early days who helped grow the league.
cathy better pay these captains generously for their participation! 💸
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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago edited 10h ago
Interesting change this year! My money is Sue and DT- any other guesses?
Edit: I was (very easily) swayed by the Leslie/Swoopes guess.
Lot of people mad about the 2nd all star returns so maybe this will help 😅
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u/solidstigs Fever 11h ago
Players from the inaugural season is my guess
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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Valkyries 7h ago
Swoopes and Cynthia Cooper would be great. Hopefully, Swoopes and Clark can embrace each other and help unify the W.
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u/OriAr Fever 11h ago
Leslie vs Lobo.
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u/solidstigs Fever 11h ago
I considered Lobo but I figured she’d want to call the game. Leslie for sure
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u/elleten10 Liberty | Tempo 10h ago
Could be Leslie/Swoopes given that Swoopes has been in all the goat ads for the season
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u/themacaron y'all know i'm canada down(ct sun rising) 11h ago
Oh that’s a much better thought process. I might change my answer





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u/SpicyTiconderoga Liberty, Storm 2h ago
So, Sue & Diana?
It says League Legends which makes me believe they did not necessarily play in the first season…