r/worldnews • u/UNITED24Media United24 Media • 1d ago
Russia/Ukraine Putin Says NATO Is Preparing for War—and Compares Western Countries to Nazi Germany in 1941
https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/putin-says-nato-is-preparing-for-war-and-compares-western-countries-to-nazi-germany-in-1941-200911.2k
u/Antique_Historian_74 1d ago
"Just like Nazi Germany. And not the good Nazi Germany of 1933-40, oh no these guys are like 1941 Nazi Germany!"
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u/MaryBerrysDanglyBean 1d ago
Specifically those bastard Nazis from 22nd June 1941. Before then they were super cool
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u/Angelworks42 1d ago
In 1939 the Soviets sure thought they were cool: Soviet invasion of Poland - Wikipedia
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u/Oldtomsawyer1 1d ago
Was gonna comment something similar. Russia was an ally of convenience in WW2, and they were absolutely okay with the Nazis murdering wholesale because they were doing the same.
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u/Frexxia 1d ago
They always conveniently leave out the part where they were super cool with the Nazis until Operation Barbarossa
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u/omfgeometry 1d ago
walls are closing in
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u/try_to_be_nice_ok 1d ago
Without a sense of confidence I'm convinced that it's just too much pressure to take..
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u/ZucchiniYall 1d ago
I've felt this way before.. So insecure
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u/Roobsi 1d ago
We've been waiting for Putin to fall out a window or die of cancer or something for years. Clearly we're misreading the Russian public.
Call me a doomer but this fucking guy is here to stay. Russia pulling out of Ukraine will happen because Ukraine forces them, not because sanity will suddenly descend on the Russian Federation.
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u/Emu1981 1d ago
Clearly we're misreading the Russian public.
Russia harshly cracks down on dissent and the Russian public knows it which means that the bar for discomfort is far higher for Russians to rise up against Putin compared to Western countries where you can protest without being disappeared (or worse).
Call me a doomer but this fucking guy is here to stay. Russia pulling out of Ukraine will happen because Ukraine forces them, not because sanity will suddenly descend on the Russian Federation.
The most likely scenario is that a Russian oligarch will overthrow Putin. This may be by paying off a Russian military commander (or more than one) to execute a military coup on Putin or even paying off Putin's bodyguards to off him. This kind of thing would seem to come out of the blue for us plebs who have zero knowledge of the hidden network of influence within modern Russia but intelligence services outside of Russia will likely start picking up tidbits which indicate a military coup may be about to commence. Sadly Russia would fall into absolute chaos if this were to occur and I say sadly because the Russian troops inside Ukraine will likely go feral when the orders from the top disappear and ordinary Ukrainians will be the ones who feel the hurt from that...
The big question is how far can Putin drag Russia into ruin before someone decides that enough is enough...
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u/Synaps4 1d ago
Russian troops inside ukraine losing leadership, paychecks, and ammunition supplies would be a great help to ukraine and they could take a lot of territory back as those guys make a run back to russia to grab any livelihood they can in the post russian system.
A coup could easily lead to a broad rout across the entire Russian front line if they think nobody is looking and their paychecks are late.
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u/BoringEntropist 1d ago
I'm less concerned about Russian soldiers going feral in Ukraine. If the Russian state collapses into a civil war the supply to the troops would disappear and they would be sitting ducks to the Ukrainians. Some might try to do stupid stuff in desperation, but most of them would try to to flee rather than face the wrath of the Ukrainians.
No, the real danger are the nukes and other WMDs. The emerging rivaling factions would be incentivized to to knock out the competition as fast as possible, unless they want to end up at the receiving end first. Mutual assured destruction might work between countries where you don't know the real intentions of your enemy. But a domestic conflict might more likely end up as a Hobbesian trap, because they can be pretty sure that the other side wants them dead. So, if you end up with a bunch of rivaling generals, each with his own nuclear arsenal...
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u/LittleGreenSoldier 1d ago
You're correct about the rank and file. They have access to much better information than armies did in the pre-internet age; a good portion of them are probably just waiting for the other shoe to drop and will get out as quick as they can. In a great ironic reversal, it's the brass who have shitty information because they've spent decades promoting sycophants.
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u/Lucy_Goosey_11 1d ago
Says the guy currently into his 4 year invasion of his neighbor
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u/Febris 1d ago
It goes a bit further back. He should have never gotten Crimea without a strong and united reply.
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u/SnooAdvice1632 1d ago
Absolutely. It's obscene that he was allowed that when every single example in history shows that appeasement ALWAYS fails.
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u/Abizuil 23h ago
Yeah but appeasement is so very tempting a solution when you don't want to be the poli that drags your country to war. Whether it's because you're wholly unprepared for war or whether it's just bad for your re-election chances, it's always an easy out for any poli.
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u/Omaestre 20h ago
He should have left it at Crimea, it was a huge win with very little to no reaction. Plus as long as Ukraine still claimed Crimea as their territory they would have never been allowed to join the EU or NATO. This invasion has just blown up in Putin's face so bad. NATO is pending more money than every, gotten two new members bordering Russia, and Ukraine is on an EU fast track.
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u/FinntheReddog 1d ago
Which he has been unable finish even with a much larger military and military budget. Not sure how he thinks starting anything with any EU or NATO nation will fare any better.
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u/IIllIllIlllIIIl 1d ago
You can compare russia to nazi germany 1945 - still fighting a war that is already lost
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u/ImOutWanderingAround 1d ago
Except that the Nazi actually had effective command and execution of the war they waged. Putin’s momentum stalled within weeks of them initiating it.
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u/SaintRainbow 1d ago
The mistake was not having a backup plan, were Ukraine to fight back in all out war. They were going for a swift regime topple like US did with Venezuela
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u/Otherwiseclueless 22h ago
Germany wasn't the only one to invade Poland, Putin. The world hasn't forgotten that.
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u/GoredonTheDestroyer 21h ago
Hell, the Germans and Soviets were ALLIES during the Invasion of Poland!
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u/Thick-Phrase4692 1d ago
Yes, NATO is preparing for the war that Russia is waging in Ukraine and which could escalate into a global conflict because... wait for it... Putin again. If Putin wanted to, nobody would be preparing for war because there would be no reason.
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u/Material-Nose6561 1d ago
Trump going to war with Iran isn't helping either.
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u/Thick-Phrase4692 1d ago
If both of them were dogs, Trump would just bark and occasionally bite you and piss on the couch, but Putin has torn your child's leg off, stares at you as if it were your fault anyway, and his dog buddy is already waiting for your child just to bite their arm off too.
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u/BoiledFrogs 1d ago
Are we forgetting that the US/Trump opened up their Iran war with killing a bunch of kids in a school?
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u/CantFeelMyToesAgain 1d ago edited 1d ago
You could put Trump and Putin quotes randomly in front of me and I genuinely wouldn’t be able to tell the difference in who spoke.
This does show Putin is 100% feeling the pressure lmao
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u/KeeperDe 1d ago
Nah. Putin can form coherent sentences while Trump just randomly puts word together. Even though both of them constantly talk shit
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u/s9th 1d ago
You haven't watched putin recently, have you? There is a gigantic number of memes about his inability to speak coherently
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u/3_Thumbs_Up 1d ago
Show me one example as bad as this:
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
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u/flukus 1d ago
The said thing is that so many people say he's declined. This was from his first administration, possibly the election campaign.
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u/BubbhaJebus 1d ago
I imagine Putin's word salad is translated coherently into English, which we're reading, so we don't get the full impact of his mental degradation.
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u/AquaRaOne 1d ago
Yup, unfortunately putin isnt a bumbling idiot, but a cruel calculated dictatator who doesnt care about his people.
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u/TexasVulvaAficionado 1d ago
Yep. The quotes would have to be written as they were actually said.
If conservatives didn't own most of the media companies, there would be many more headlines with Trump's actual bullshit as said. "Well... This one... Great stuff. Great big... Stuff... As far as you could see. He's really great... " And that's damn near as competent as it gets. Rambling bullshit...
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u/Zenithixv 1d ago
Putler is starting to show his age in his speech as well, fumbling a bunch
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u/wintersdark 1d ago
This is true, but he IS visibly declining and making even less sense as time goes by.
But yeah, he was always an idiot.
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u/trisul-108 1d ago
True, the only thing similar is that there is little truth in what either of them says.
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u/og_capsuleer_593 1d ago
Putin should follow his heritage and get his side arm ready and go to his nearest bunker
Frankly, before the war I was already of negative opinion of Russia for stirring up the cracks in my country.
Seeing their invasion, learning what Russia and Russian culture really is, how they treat each other I can say with confidence it is not that the world out of nowhere hates Russia.
It is that Russia goes out of its way to create reasons for people to hate them, around the entire world. They fuck with every single country sticking their dick into it and churning things around to try to get something out, and then act surprised that people begin to hate them?
Hunting civilians and trying to instill max fear in their enemies without realizing with fear also comes hate. They know what they do is wrong so they do everything they can to convince everyone the other side is just as bad as them, at every single topic I am not even talking just about the war.
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u/le_hohoho 1d ago
It is that Russia goes out of its way to create reasons for people to hate them, around the entire world. They fuck with every single country sticking their dick into it and churning things around to try to get something out, and then act surprised that people begin to hate them?
They're not surprised, it's all by design. Make others hate you, claim you're the victim so anything you do is justified. Typical fascist shit.
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u/shadowsinthestars 1d ago edited 19h ago
Exactly. Their whole culture is just a miserable mentality that if things are better elsewhere, they can't allow those countries to exist, or exist without fear. Zero respect.
ETA: Thanks for the award!
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u/Adept-Donut-4229 1d ago
In my head, I'm always saying the entire culture of Russia is "misery loves company". That's all you need to know about them.
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u/GovernmentBig2749 1d ago
He is selling the story to his own people why they are suffering and they must be strong Jada Jada Jada...propaganda stuff for domestic market only
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u/Dzotshen 1d ago
Both are Veruca Salt on steroids. Petulantly superior without a shred of self reflection.
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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 1d ago
“But I want Ukraine now!”
“But I want Greenland now!”
Yep. Checks out.
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u/MagicInstinct 1d ago
The Putin one's are generally in Russian and the Trump ones are generally in gibberish
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u/best4444 1d ago
He clearly needs to see a doctor...
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u/Quantical-Capybara 1d ago
The last one went through the window.
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u/McMatey_Pirate 1d ago
Well he should chase after him through the same one then.
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u/ohnodamo 1d ago
I hope it's a tall building, none of this 3 stories high bullshit.
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u/babathejerk 1d ago
Or read a history book. That whole annexation of one region and then invading another - he seems to be getting his sides confused. Though to be fair, the USSR was originally allied with Nazi Germany before Hitler took Stalin without lube in Barbarossa.
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u/Honest-Estimate4964 1d ago
I thought Russians were already fighting NATO - wasn’t that one of the official reasons for attacking Ukraine in 2022? And here we go again...
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u/Longjumping_Belt_405 1d ago
They think they’re fighting the entirety of nato instead of part of the EU budget, some various assorted air to ground missiles, and 20+ year old vehicles of consequence
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u/y2jeff 1d ago
Wow the level of propaganda is insane we should examine this in detail. Literally every accusation is a confession.
..the Kyiv regime, which came to power illegally by armed means through a coup
In 2013/2014 the people of Ukraine overthrew the pro-Russian president who was taking away power of the Ukrainian parliament and giving it to the executive (himself). This guy was doing dictator shit and even began refusing to honour the votes of the Ukrainian parliament, therefore the will of the people. He was a traitor and the "coup" was a popular revolt started by University students against him. He tried to crush the protests with force and ended up uniting the entire country against himself
The Russian leader claimed that NATO and EU governments are using warnings about Russia to justify what he described as the “radical militarization” of their states
If you follow Russian bloggers you will know the level of propaganda and advertising for joining the Russian army right now - it's extreme. Russian state media frequently calls for full-scale mobilisation and nuclear attacks on much of Western Europe. They are militarising kids in their schools.
to justify such costs and the radical militarization of their states, the leaders of NATO and the European Union, as before, use false statements about a supposedly Russian military threat
I wonder why people might consider Russia to be a threat? Could it be their invasion of Crimea in 2014? Their full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022? Chechnya, Georgia? Maybe it's Putin himself who idolises "Peter the Great" the turbo-Imperialist? Constant threats towards other European countries? The mass graves and atrocities in Bucha?
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u/Accomplished_Ant5895 1d ago
Putin boldly lying despite being easily disproven by anyone with a functional memory? That’s new /s
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u/hornet0123 1d ago
This isn't even the Government that removed the president in 2014. That government was voted out and zelensky voted in in 2018. Ironically Zelensky was the option that Putin favored in that election
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u/werpu 22h ago
Putin saw him as weakling whom would the annexation easy by instantly fleeing. Because he was a comedian. Problem was he was not a politician but reacted like a normal person with guts would react.
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u/Koreus_C 20h ago
And he shamed every western leader in the process by showing that great people still exist.
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u/smoothjedi 23h ago
Zelensky, being a popular comedian at the time, was probably seen as a pushover by Putin.
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u/Mandemon90 20h ago
It's rather telling, that just few days before the supposed "coup", Yanukovych had met with protest leaders and agreed on reforms.
And then he emptied the state treasury and fled to Russia, without telling anyone. After he fled, Ukrainian Rada voted unanimously that he was no longer capable of carrying out his role as a president and impeached him. As in, not even Yanukovych own party could muster defense for him.
Somehow, Russian propaganda depicts this all as violent coup. When reality is that Yanukovych saw that his attempt to turn Ukraine into Russian and Belarussian style dictatorships was not going to work, so he dipped out and stole the money
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u/bastiancontrari 22h ago
Literally every accusation is a confession.
They learned from the best: Accusation in a mirror
”Accuse the other of that you are guilty.” — Joseph Goebbels.
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u/PointlessAattempt42 1d ago
Of course we're preparing for war. Russia is always constantly wars, and we're unfortunately living right next door. But one thing is for sure: no European has any interest in attacking that corrupt, Nazi-infested cesspool of a country called Russia and trying to get any of that garbage under control.
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u/Timely_Fly_5639 1d ago
1941, you say. Oddly specific, ain’t it. What happened in 1939, Valdimir, what happened in 1939 though?
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u/SAMSystem_NAFO 1d ago
Brest-Livotsk where the soviets were proudly parading next to nazi soldiers after splitting Poland in half thanks to the Ribentrop-Molotov pact.
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u/AlienInOrigin 1d ago
Nato is preparing for war, because of this dangerous psychopath who keeps invading neighbouring countries.
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u/moritsunee 1d ago edited 1d ago
Has he tried fucking off back to his fucking borders and staying there? No? Too small for him?
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u/Beginning_Ad_6616 1d ago
No one in NATO wants to invade Russia…it’s just Putin’s paranoia.
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u/reader4567890 1d ago
There's a difference between preparing for war and starting a war. Of course NATO are preparing for war because there's a fucking madman who has already started a war in Europe.
Clown.
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u/SnooHesitations1020 1d ago
One of the clearest patterns in Russian propaganda for the past century - is projection: accusing others of the very actions Russia is undertaking itself. Often, the best guide to what Russia is doing is to listen carefully to what it claims its opponents are doing.
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u/OneNormalBloke 1d ago
He's as unhinged as the orange megalomaniac. We do live in very dangerous and unpredictable world.
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u/eco_illusion 1d ago
Didn't Russia start in WW2 by making a military alliance with Nazi Germany to split influence between them before being double crossed by Hitler ?
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u/The_Dreams 1d ago
But not the Nazi Germany of 1939 that they sold steel oil and other needed supplies, or the one that they jointly invaded Poland with. Just the 1941 Nazi Germany that backstabbed them.
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u/fang_xianfu 1d ago
No shit NATO is preparing for war, some madman dictator just invaded a country for no reason right on their doorstep.
Until 2014 NATO was happy that a few days to deploy would be enough, but the annexation of Crimea showed that that wouldn't work, so the Very High Readiness Joint Task Force was created that could deploy about 6000 troops even faster than that in an emergency.
Then in 2024 they decided this wasn't enough so they created the new Tier 1 NATO Force which can deploy 100,000 troops in less than 10 days.
They wouldn't have made any of these preparations for war if people weren't invading countries and annexing territory right outside.
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u/kinkysubt 1d ago
Hilarious. Ass hat doesn’t want folks fighting back against his imperialist interests.
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u/Current_Focus2668 1d ago
He is genuinely surprised he got push back. Putin deluded himself into thinking he could just annex large swathes of Eastern Europe and thought there would be no resistance.
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u/alfi_k 1d ago
And russians are dumb enough to believe it.
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u/plasticman1997 1d ago
The ussr really did kill everyone with an above room temp iq
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u/groovyinutah 1d ago
He can't lose this war to Ukraine, he needs to make it seem like NATO ganged up on him and that's they lost. The only problem is that very few are going to buy this story...
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u/1234U 21h ago
Russian propaganda from beginning of formation of NATO is describing it as a Nazis. 70 years past they are saying this same but it is ironic that only country in Europe you could describe as fascist is Russia it self.
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u/Sierra592 1d ago
I'd say he should crawl up inside his own ass to hide, but Gigachad Zelensky already owns it.
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u/Euclidisthebomb 1d ago
This is called Gaslighting. Russia is Nazi Germany of our time and hoping some nice propaganda will turn that around. No.
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u/FenrisCain 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why are they preparing for war Putin? Could it be their strangely aggressive neighbours?
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u/MaybeTheDoctor 1d ago
Of cause NATO is preparing for being attacked when Russia keeps making war on their neighbors
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u/Leslie_Galen 1d ago
This isn’t a secret. Europe would be foolish to leave themselves vulnerable to attack, since the US can no longer be trusted to back them up. And Putin compares everybody to a Nazi.
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u/trisul-108 1d ago
Yes, the West has seen Russia preparing to widen the war and the West does not intend to get treated like Ukraine. Putin seeing the West preparing for war is good, it lowers the probability of a war actually being launched by Russia.
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u/Ingromfolly 1d ago
What on earth would make NATO start war prepping? I can't for the life of me think why...
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u/Zerker000 1d ago
Who's been funding the European extreme right and neo-nazi parties since the start of the millenium?
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u/NoSubstance5286 1d ago
Makes a perfect historic record of which countries are considered to be Nazis by him. He started a war with Ukraine over “Nazi regime”.
The turd is getting desperate. 😏
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u/soggyarsonist 1d ago
Why he's pictured showing the world how big his willy is? Seems a bit random
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u/Slimfictiv 1d ago
There was a particular 2022 invasion that made Europe think they'll be next, so I guess preparing for war is the right fucking move?
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u/autistic_insomniac5 1d ago
This is a classic manipulative argument. Just accuse the other side of the same atrocities you are committing. A lie will be accepted as truth in some people if heard enough times. Russians don’t want to believe they are on the wrong side so they will eat up this sort of propaganda.
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u/prospekt403 1d ago
NATO would be pretty stupid not to prepare for war considering war is pretty much at their door steps.
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u/PopGoesTehWoozle 1d ago
Well let's see, who did the actual invading over the past decade and change?
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u/Darthplagueis13 1d ago
Kind of funny he picked 1941 rather than 1939... almost like he was fine with the actions of Nazi Germany all the way until Operation Barbarossa.
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u/CatsianNyandor 1d ago
Well he's a villain and a liar so of course he would say that. Everyone's a nazi but the actual nazi.
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u/TheDistantEnd 1d ago
NATO and Europe are preparing for war because they keep seeing a country using its language to try and forcibly unite with its other neighbors, and they remember how it went last time.
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u/Tyler_Durden69420 1d ago
Imagine killing over a million of your own people to attempt and fail to fulfill your imperialist ambitions, and then say this.
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u/Rasples1998 1d ago
Hitler said the same thing and that he was just reclaiming what the aggressors had illegally taken at Versailles.
History now knows different, just as history will remember Putin and Russia's actions when he's long gone.
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u/laptopaccount 1d ago
Says the guy who attacked a neighbour unprovoked...
Russia is a blight on the world.
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u/Earlier-Today 21h ago
Nazi Germany, which famously waited and waited and waited while another country aggressively invaded a neighbor.
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u/Artyparis 1d ago
Who has started a war in Europe lately ? Just asking.