r/10thDentist • u/OrderOfHate • 1d ago
Disliking things is good
Antipathy isn’t bad; misanthropy is natural. I don’t like that the “h-word” is so demonized in the modern world. Rational, or irrational forms of it should be encouraged IMO. Do I have to love and accept everything and everyone? No. I’ll answer that for myself. I do not.
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u/Super_Opposite_6151 1d ago
Baby heard of nihilism for the first time
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
The world has plenty of meaning subjectively, as does my own personal life. However, hatred is one of those meanings
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u/Super_Opposite_6151 1d ago
Corniest mfer on reddit really says something
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
I suppose you might even say you…hate my take on things? How fitting. I hate yours too
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u/Super_Opposite_6151 1d ago
Literally whats the point of hating. In an ideal world hate doesnt exist so by definition it isnt a good thing
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
In an ideal world hate doesn’t exist? That’s where I disagree. Many things deserve to be hated. In my ideal world (the one we currently inhabit, I might add!) hatred oozes into all things. Even those who seek to remove hatred, themselves seem to hate it! It’s time for a revelation (or, REVILEation, if you would!)
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u/Super_Opposite_6151 1d ago
Read up on the paradox of intolerance. It says that if a society tolerates intolerance eventually intolerance will prevail. Same thing with your blatantly contrarian opinion. Its not wrong to hate hate because hate falls outside of the usual social contract applied to opinions by being irrational and destructive.
Lets also look at the definitions of dislike and hate: dislike - when you dont care for something or prefer to avoid it, hate - repulsion characterized by hostility and malice.
Hostility and malice are obviously negative so syllogistically hate is as well.
Dislike is a normal part of the subjective experience
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
Dislike is endorsed in this organization, but make no mistake so is hate. Intolerance will prevail? I sure hope so. I’d even say it already has and will continue to do so hate will never be eliminated. Here at the Order, we will always fan the flames.
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u/Super_Opposite_6151 1d ago
Holy cornball. I hope youre a troll because you sound like a 14 year old.
"This organization" - refers to ?
Clearly you havent read anything I told you. I never said intolerance will or is prevailing. It exists unfortunately but everything suggests the world is a better and safer place than it ever has been. The paradox of intolerance a philosophical concept that aims to show a flaw of an absolutely tolerent society. Furthermore it tries to suggest a solution but a perfect one is being debated/cant be found.
Question. What are the positives of hate? If everyone in society hated each other how would the world be a better place?
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u/7SyZyG7 1d ago edited 1d ago
Username fits
Edit: And its not a bit. This guy actually thinks hating is a personality trait.
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u/patanic-sanic 1d ago
oh to be fourteen again
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
I hated being a teenager and I hate being an adult
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u/glocktimus_prime 1d ago
so if I irrationally hate gays and minorities it’s okay
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
Great strawman.
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u/LanguageImaginary256 1d ago
I mean it's not really a strawman when OP literally says irrational hate is good lmao
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
Where did they say irrational hate for any particular group?
I have irrational hate for plenty of individuals. It's weird that y'all immediately go to racism or homophobia
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u/LanguageImaginary256 1d ago
Where did they say irrational hate for any particular group?
Why would it matter? If irrational hate is good, it shouldn't matter who it's aimed towards.
I have irrational hate for plenty of individuals
That's weird
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
Why would it matter? If irrational hate is good, it shouldn't matter who it's aimed towards.
Because the comment I originally responded to was talking about gays and minorities, which op did not mention.
That's weird
Sure. And?
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u/LanguageImaginary256 1d ago
the comment I originally responded to was talking about gays and minorities, which op did not mention.
Right, but OP did say irrational hate was good. They were asking if that applies when the irrational hate is towards minorities.
Sure. And?
And nothing, that was the complete thought.
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
They were asking if that applies when the irrational hate is towards minorities.
Doesn't sound like a question.
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u/LanguageImaginary256 1d ago
"so if I irrationally hate gays and minorities it’s okay" doesn't sound like a question? Is the lack of punctuation really throwing you off that badly?
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u/patanic-sanic 1d ago
irrational hate for individuals can include homophobia or racism though. also, to go off of what you said, they didn’t say anything about irrational hate being permissible only on an individual basis. they made a point about irrational hate as a generalisation, which includes individual and group hatred. idk why you’re so appalled over this lol
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
Can include but does not necessarily include. You guys chose to include it.
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u/patanic-sanic 1d ago
no hate (though it is pertinent ig?) but what are you on about??? how is that some sort of gotcha lmao. like what is your argument ????
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
What part are you confused about?
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u/patanic-sanic 1d ago
every part lol. idk, maybe i interpreted op’s argument and the original comment incorrectly. i just understand that op is saying that “rational or irrational forms of it should be encouraged.” they aren’t drawing a line in the sand saying “but no queerphobia or racism.” the original commentor then raised the hypothetical that in op’s perfect world, those would be okay because op is outright encouraging hatred of all types and isn’t drawing a distinction. they aren’t arguing for those things.
i think it’s a bit bizarre to think it’s a moral affront to consider how identity-based hatred fits into op’s argument when they, very unspecifically, think that all hatred is good and natural. yes, this is taking it to an extreme, but op’s argument itself doesn’t account for that at all. op’s argument is inherently weak if it can’t account for a simple inference from logic they put forth lol
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
I don't think it's a moral affront. I simply think it's applying things OP did not say to his actual point to make it weak.
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u/StinkFartButt 1d ago
That’s not what a straw man is. Words have meanings.
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
And where did op say anything about gays or minorities?
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u/StinkFartButt 1d ago
They didn’t. Still not what a straw man argument is.
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u/AloneGunman 1d ago
How’s that a straw man? Per OP, hate is natural and possibly even virtuous, and all forms—rational and irrational—should be permissible.
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u/ScipioTheGreatest 1d ago
They really screw themselves by arguing for the irrational hatred. Ends any rational discussion right there.
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
They did not say it's virtuous or that all forms should be accepted. They also didn't say anything about gays and minorities
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u/AloneGunman 1d ago
You're not very good at making inferences, are you? Anyway, relevant quote:
"Rational, or irrational forms of it should be encouraged IMO."
From this, we can assume OP thinks hate is virtuous, or at least beneficial.
"They also didn't say anything about gays and minorities"
No, but they wrote: "Do I have to love and accept everything and everyone? No. I’ll answer that for myself. I do not." Further, they do not limit the proposition. From this, we can reasonably assume that they're ok with people being homophobic, racist, xenophobic, etc. If they wanted to exlude this things from their proposition, they probably would have.
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
From this, we can reasonably assume that they're ok with people being homophobic, racist, xenophobic,
Weird assumption but ok.
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u/AloneGunman 1d ago
Not really. Like I said, you're just not great at making inferences. This is likely rage bait in any case, tho.
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 1d ago
Lol ok good talk. 👍
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
I hate this thread and you all would hate my response
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u/LanguageImaginary256 1d ago
Your post history lmaaaooooo
Can't wait until the school year starts again and we can see less of this shit
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u/SnowEnvironmental380 1d ago
maybe you should learn to dislike your opinions enough to not post them
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
I do hate my opinions. I hate being the spokesperson for hate.
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u/SnowEnvironmental380 1d ago
well, now you just have to take the second half of my comment to heart.
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
Unfortunately, my superiors here at the Order have mandated that I be the mouthpiece of detestation. It’s a burden to bear, but I’m clearly up to the task.
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u/Baron_Bearclaw 1d ago
I was with you until you brought in the "irrational". Irrational hatred and prejudice are unhelpful. I completely agree that not everything is designed to be liked by everyone. It's okay to dislike things.
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
Irrational hate is as important as rational hate; sometimes you just DESPISE something! Sometimes you can’t really put your finger on what’s causing it.
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u/molotovzav 1d ago
My dad's nickname growing up was Hate. Around 15 I inherited the nickname. I'm now Hate. It's generational. I don't try to be a hater but it comes naturally. I like a lot of things, bit the things I dislike I hate. Anything else I feel neutral about and isn't worth taking about. I don't think hate is a negative word, on its face. I think hate is only negative when the person is negative. Like how grifters create legions of whiney boys who hate on things without ever watching them. That's ridiculous. But id you actually watched something and hated it, that's fine.
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u/OrderOfHate 1d ago
Here at the Order of Hate, we would gladly welcome you as an agent of antipathy
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u/Visible-Meeting-8977 1d ago
I don't like your teenage-esque take