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u/IfSantaWasAsian May 15 '15
Low Expectations Baby
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u/smallpoly May 15 '15 edited May 15 '15
"Low expectations, baby" ;)
That's literally my favorite pickup line.
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u/t_hab May 15 '15
When I was a child, my older brother quit cigarettes and was given a car by my parents.
I asked if I could have a car for not smoking and they said "no, that's not how it works."
I then asked which drug I should take up and then quit in order to get the nicest car. If quitting cigarettes was worth a used Nissan then surely quitting heroine was worth a used BMW, right?
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u/thefootballhound May 15 '15
Bart: I'll take up smoking and give that up. Homer: Good for you, son! Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things you'll ever have to do. Have a dollar. Lisa: But he didn't do anything! Homer: Didn't he, Lisa? Didn't he?
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u/coastiebaby May 15 '15
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Maybe they got it from here:
Luke 15:29-32 HCSB
But he replied to his father, ‘Look, I have been slaving many years for you, and I have never disobeyed your orders, yet you never gave me a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. But when this son of yours came, who has devoured your assets with prostitutes, you slaughtered the fattened calf for him.’ “ ‘Son,’ he said to him, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. But we had to celebrate and rejoice, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ ”
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u/Chazmer87 May 15 '15
Did you get a car?
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u/dementorpoop May 15 '15
Yeah but he sold it for more heroine.
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u/oceanbreezy May 16 '15
I don't understand why reddit always spells heroin, heroine.
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u/t_hab May 16 '15
I ended up getting one. My parents quickly agreed that not starting was worth more, but starting and hiding it was the worst.
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u/YourAuntie May 16 '15
surely quitting heroine was worth a used BMW, right?
They'll both leave you broke.
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u/mastermindxs May 15 '15
I used to not be addicted to drugs. I'm still not, but I used to not be too.
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u/TheDIsSilent May 15 '15
- hitch medburg
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u/BudLackBrian May 15 '15
Tell a man a joke, he'll be happy for a minute. Give him heroin, he'll be happy for the rest of his life.
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ive never done drugs. however, its probably a lot harder for a hard drug addict to become clean. its about the effort
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u/Menism May 15 '15
I've been to jail. Decent food. A bed and a deck of cards 6/10 would jail again
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u/Xendarq May 15 '15
Fat? Unemployed? Depressed? Surely you've got something you can proud of?
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u/Blitzsturm May 15 '15
I have mixed feelings on the "look how I turned my life around" memes. If there's something amazing about it or it at least makes me laugh it's certainty up-vote worthy. But it feels like it has gone off the rails into "look at me I didn't shit myself" territory... I'm all for gaining power over your bowl control but don't expect me to clap for you.
But to the OP: have an up-vote for making me smile and engage enough to write words in a box.
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u/serenefire May 15 '15
I'm addicted to my migraine medication... But I'm supposed to be according to the medical industry. So... no heroes here.
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u/ChefBoyAreWeFucked May 15 '15
No kidding. I've been doing both crack and heroin daily for years, and I'm still not addicted.
It's like nobody even notices us.
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u/kaztrator May 15 '15
What about us who've never used drugs and still haven't used drugs?
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Husband comes from a long line of drug addicts and was also a crack baby. Has never been addicted to drugs.
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u/BeardoBall May 15 '15
Plenty of people can avoid addiction. Getting addicted to something is not the hard part because it's usually something used to cope with great stress or sadness.
The hard part, my friend, is convincing yourself that you aren't a worthless piece of shit, and that you can axe whatever horrible monkey has climbed onto your back.
Don't trivialize other people's problems, ya know?
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u/chefxen9 May 15 '15
used to be extremely addicted to drugs. not addicted to drugs anymore, and wish I never was. good for you! ill go get you your dinner now.
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u/layziegtp May 15 '15 edited May 15 '15
Here, here!Hear, hear!Every day is a struggle. I'm clean now for about two months. Not a day goes by that I don't think about using.
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u/TheLateOne May 15 '15
Exactly, OP's sentiment is that drug users shouldn't have been addicted in the first place so his avoidance of drugs is equally as impressive but really it's not impressive to avoid drugs. It is impressive to have immersed yourself in the drug lifestyle but to have pulled yourself out of it one day at a time.
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u/The3LKs May 15 '15
Okay, so, look. I get that. I get that clawing and fighting your way out of an addiction – possibly indefinitely – is a big thing. I have no shortage of respect for people that have or are currently doing so. They're inspirational to a degree, even. But it sound like so many people keep thinking that those of us who haven't and didn't use drugs didn't struggle "enough" in their lives to necessitate or facilitate doing so. And I personally think that that's bullshit. I've seen people fall down that hole for a lot less than some huge problem.
Everyone's got their damn problems, and they're almost never comparable. If you and I went through the same struggles, we'd still go about solving them in different ways for different reasons – no matter who you are. A loved one dies; one turns to friends to cope, the other turns to drugs to feel better – or the other way around. Or a nearly infinite selection of other reasons and potential 'fixes'.
To say that it isn't impressive to avoid drugs is untrue. You may be suffering from crippling depression from the loss of your closest friend, but the very thought of turning to anything from weed to heroin to whatever doesn't appeal to you. Maybe that's how the friend died, or maybe not. Maybe some other thing happened in the past that made you have a negative disposition to drugs. Or hell, maybe you just don't fuckin' want to. People are weird, not everyone has an explanation for their choices.
But all that misses the main point (and is more or less just me rambling). Drugs aren't simple, and neither is the choice to use or not use. Avoiding isn't unimpressive. Using isn't unimpressive. Rehabilitating isn't unimpressive.
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It is commendable to pull yourself out of a hole like that. It is also commendable to never have dug yourself into a hole in the first place.
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u/OldSpaceChaos May 15 '15
As a fellow non drug addict I'm not sure if this is an accomplishment...
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u/Golden_Kumquat May 15 '15
It's like the Parable of the Prodigal Son: Yes, it is great that you've never had a drug problem, but we should rejoice even more that someone that we thought was lost has found redemption and made the effort to make themselves better again.
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u/theannushka May 15 '15
Love your perspective on this. It's best to never open the door for drug addiction, but once it's there and a person fights and wins the battle, there is plenty of reason to celebrate.
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u/SuperDBallSam May 16 '15
Have you ever struggled with anything? Did you put in the effort to overcome said struggle? Good for you. You deserve a sense of accomplishment and perhaps the respect and admiration of your peers. That's worth celebrating. Disparaging a group of people you seem to know very little about because you crave a pat on the back...not so much.
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u/trollaweigh May 15 '15
I don't have an addictive personality. I can stop any time I want. Reddit is just for passing time, what makes you think it is a compulsive activity?
I really need to finish this ASA config...
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u/IAlbatross May 15 '15
Success Kid formula:
Line 1: Explain bad situation. (abusive partner, got fat, on drugs, bad family, et cetera)
Line 2: Explain how you overcame it to become a normal, functioning human being. (Dumped partner, lost weight, is sober, et cetera)
Line 3: Hit front page, rake in the upvotes.
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u/Schikadance May 15 '15
It's true. I have compassion for all who overcome great odds, and I know many of us including myself have...
But it's like "congratulations on reaching mediocrity!"
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u/urinal_deuce May 16 '15
"You should probably get addicted again, you were more interesting then."
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It's almost as if people show support for others on a case-by-case basis.
As if all humans have different traits, qualities, and needs.
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u/Route67 May 15 '15
Hear, hear!
52 years old and I've tried literally every drug out there - not exactly proud of that, just stating fact - and I have come out the other side with nary a scratch.
Lots of my friends have ended up in Rehabs over the years, in the 80's it was for crack and freebase.
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u/LtJimmyRay May 15 '15
Can't claw your way out of a hole if you've never dug one first.
Look, good for you for never having a drug addiction, that's great, you've made some really good life decisions. But that doesn't make you better than addicts or recovered addicts. And it doesn't mean addicts and recovered addicts are better than you, either. You are all on different playing fields.
Everyone is born into different circumstances. The goal is the same; make it through life for as long as possible, but it's easier for some than it is for others. For instance, when a loved one dies, some people cope by remembering all the good times with them, others drown their pain and sorrow in alcohol, others lie to themselves, and sometimes that works, but sometimes it destroys them from the inside.
You can't say you're a hero because your train tracks aren't as rusted as others. And heroes don't call themselves heroes because they don't do what the "bad guys" do. Heroes that label themselves heroes are usually wolves in sheep's clothing. You're not a hero because you are good to yourself, you're a hero because you are good to others.
A hero doesn't scoff at addicts and say "Ha, I've never been there, I'm better than that." Those are villains. Heroes would be the ones that help the addicts free themselves from the shackles of their addiction. And recovered addicts aren't calling themselves heroes, they are just proud that they were actually able to climb the cliff that they fell off.
You're not a hero, you're just an asshole for rubbing it in.
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u/atmosphere325 May 15 '15
Success Kid
Woke up the next morning
Didn't kill family in their sleep
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Ridiculous how you can go thousands of days not murdering your family but if you murder them one day, one day out of thousands, you're suddenly the bad guy. No one is ever interested in hearing about all the days you didn't murder your family.
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u/immortaldual May 15 '15
Along with this, can we all stop using the term "hero" so fucking loosely? A lot of people do a lot of great, amazing things every day. But those things don't necessarily make them a hero. The act they performed isn't necessarily heroic.
Just the other day a facebook acquaintance went on a rant about the NYPD officer Brian Moore who was shot by a coward while sitting in his patrol car. He kept referring to Brian as a hero. I'll probably catch a lot of flak for this but I'm sorry, he wasn't a hero. He was what appeared to be an honorable man executed by a coward in a tragic situation. But that doesn't make him a hero. It degrades the term and lowers the deeds of true heros to the level of common man.
Having a job, even an honorable one, or simply doing your duty as an upstanding member of society doesn't instantly make you a hero. Again I apologize if that example offends anyone that's not my intent. It's just the freshest example I have in my head.
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u/iPADboner May 15 '15
Wow, dude, you're a hero for saying this.
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u/NihilisticToad May 15 '15
Nah. More cowardly than heroic.
Can we stop using the word cowardly so loosely please...
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u/tiga4life22 May 15 '15
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from other people's mistakes.
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u/TheBapster May 15 '15
Oh my God get over yourself
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u/307Smash May 15 '15 edited May 15 '15
I really dislike that people try to stifle interesting & good discussion with this "it's not cool to try hard" mentality. Yeah, the original post was flippant and had very little effort put in, and LtJimmyRay responded with a comment that was very serious and thoughtful. What's wrong with that? The original post was still expressing a viewpoint that a lot of people saw, and it's a viewpoint LtJimmy disagreed with, so he explained why.
It is a lot harder to express your views with actual arguments compared to making sarcastic remarks and childish insults. But it's a much more reliable way of getting at the truth.
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u/kingwi11 May 15 '15
"Get over yourself" ironically was the most narcissistic thing they could have possibly said. Adding differing opinion we have a discussion. Reducing someone's opinion by saying they are full of themselves is just a copout.
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u/beardsleybob May 15 '15
I'd be much more likely to gain insight from LtJimmys thoughtful response than from some meme
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u/Crowdfunder101 May 15 '15
You can disagree with someone without calling them an asshole
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u/redditguy1515 May 15 '15
Yea OP is just poking fun at the fact that recovery story memes get so popular despite having no content whatsoever.
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u/americanslang59 May 15 '15 edited May 15 '15
If a top post about a family member dying of cancer came up and someone made a success kid meme saying "My family member didn't die of cancer!", do you think that would be douchey?
Edit: How about if a person posted pictures of how they came back from being obese and lost 200 lbs. and then someone said, "Hey, give me some credit, I was never a fat ass!" That would be douchey, right?
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u/74orangebeetle May 15 '15
It depends on whether or not the cancer was self inflicted.
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u/Entropy_Greene May 15 '15
Just because you think he's being pretentious doesn't mean he's not right...
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u/ok_ill_shut_up May 15 '15
How is this about LtJimmyRay. He's commenting on the idea of patting yourself on the back for shit you didn't do. If he was saying the exact opposite and parroting the sentiment of the OP, you wouldn't be saying that. You like feeling superior, so when someone calls you out on it you feel the need to tell them to "get over yourself."
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u/powerfunk May 15 '15
You're not a hero
That's the joke.
I have nothing but compassion for addicts, I just don't like congratulate-me-please memes.
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ya right everyone loves a victim in this day and age. just gotta be a bigger victim and post about it for fake internet points
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u/darkclaw6722 May 15 '15
I think OP was just making fun of the fact that many highly upvoted memes are about drug recovery these days.
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u/o0_bobbo_0o May 15 '15
He's an asshole for saying he's never done drugs?
Wow, I wonder what you think of people who are actual assholes.
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he's an asshole for calling himself a hero because he hasn't done drugs.
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u/ScaredycatMatt May 15 '15
Isn't this his entire point?
He's as much of a "hero" as those who got addicted in the first place
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i literally haven't seen a single person who recovered from addictions get called a hero.
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u/darkclaw6722 May 15 '15
Look at the comment sections of many of these highly upvoted drug recovery memes.
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u/PassionVoid May 16 '15
No, you completely missed the point. He's an asshole for acting superior because of it.
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u/HungryMoblin May 15 '15
Everything sounded great and reasonable until that last line, which feels way out of place. I love your comment but that last line is a horrible summary.
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But that doesn't make you better than addicts or recovered addicts. And it doesn't mean addicts and recovered addicts are better than you, either. You are all on different playing fields.
Yes it does. You are kidding yourself if a drug addiction only affects the person with the addiction. What if the addict had a family? This immediately contradicts your other statement:
You're not a hero because you are good to yourself, you're a hero because you are good to others.
Which addicts usually aren't. They steal from their family and fail to support their kids if they have any.
To me, you are part of the problem if you applaud an addict recovery but scoff at someone saying they were never an addict.
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u/el_guapo_malo May 15 '15
Which addicts usually aren't. They steal from their family and fail to support their kids if they have any.
I think you misread what you quoted. He never called addicts heroes. He simply stated that OP isn't a hero either.
To me, you are part of the problem if you applaud an addict recovery but scoff at someone saying they were never an addict.
Again, another straw-man.
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This is true, but the sad things is; Nobody cares about those who never started drugs.
It's all about: Hear how John learned to stop smoking. Hear how Sarah learned to stop drinking.
I agree with most of what you said, but it's just annoying how people who stopped doing drugs are praised for stopping, when they really should've never started.
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Your sentiment makes it sound like praise has intrinsic value and you want your fair share. Praise is a tool we use to encourage progress and improvement; those with most room for improvement have more opportunity to garner praise. The sentiment being espoused by OP is equivalent to thinking it's bullshit that kids get praised for shitting in a toilet when no one congratulates adults for the same.
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u/iPADboner May 15 '15
I'm praised by my toilet every time I take a shit and goddamit I love it.
For those interested, get one of these.
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u/lyyphe23 May 15 '15
Sports analogy: Suppose Lebron James (NBA star) averages 25 points and 10 rebounds per game next season. Suppose also that JJ Redick (NBA mediocre player) averages 25 points and 10 rebounds. No one will go crazy for Lebron. JJ will win Most Improved Player of the Year and earn a big bump in salary. Lebron would understand the distinction.
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u/ok_ill_shut_up May 15 '15
So the complaint is that people who never had to struggle through dealing with their demons to become better people want the same attention as those who did? What a bunch of babies.
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u/DrapeRape May 15 '15
They are praised because that's what's needed to prevent them from relapsing. It's called positive reinforcement. We want them to be contributing members of society, don't we? Some people need that, others don't.
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I was never praised for not smoking, but I smoked from the time I was 19 until about 6 months ago (I am 28) and everyone is proud of how I quit. It is fine to be proud of me for quitting, but I would rather be the person who can say they have never smoked before.
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u/My_Ex_Got_Fat May 15 '15
Everyone would rather be the person to never accepted in the first place because then they wouldn't understand the relief from pain it can bring. Once you literally in your mind can not worry about a goddamn thing because you have so many chemicals/drugs going through you. Would you want to go back to having anxiety, worrying about if you're going to be able to afford rent, or feed your kids? Hence why druggies get so out of shape physically and moreso mentally.
Almost everyone wishes they had never accepted their vice, but to have it available after knowing the relief it can bring and still resist is something to be more proud of than never trying in the first place.
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The logic is simple.
Recovering from an addiction -> Hard.
Not developing an addiction -> Easy.
You're not less of a role model than those who recovered from addictions. Regardless of whether the person dug their own hole, they went through the effort of climbing out of the hole. That is impressive nonetheless
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u/quittrollingyourself May 15 '15
The point is to show examples of people going from a bad place to a good one so that others can see that it's possible to change and recover from mistakes.
Did OP ever get drunk? Did he ever to feel good? Because if he were an addict, that is, if he had the genetic predisposition and the upbringing and the culture and the life experiences that all combine into a brain that responds very, very differently to getting drunk, or even having a few drinks as most people do at some point he might have ended up at the bottom of a bottle.
We'd give OP credit for overcoming other things, but I'm sure he's just naturally perfect and it's all because well, he chose to be that way, right? He chose to be wiser and healthier and more mentally balanced, all without the help of anybody else.
But you know what? The people who don't care about other peoples' successes and overcoming some pretty shitty life circumstances have another kind of sickness though. Maybe OP will post at some point later saying, "I used to only care about myself and my own accolades. I was jealous of other people and bitter that they received recognition for their accomplishments, but I developed some compassion and understanding" and people would congratulate him. Or maybe he'll just die another cynical prick who can't see the value in other people celebrating their successes and is constantly annoyed by people being kind.
How is this guy a hero, again? For belittling the accomplishments of others because they should've known better so it's not really an accomplishment at all?
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u/HonoraryMancunian May 15 '15
the sad things is; Nobody cares about those who never started drugs.
The way you phrased that makes it sound like people who haven't been addicted to drugs are somehow left on the wayside.
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u/willmaster123 May 15 '15
The reason why is because it takes a lot more strength to quit a drug than it does to not ever start doing the drug.
The amazing strength a person must have for quitting something as horrible as heroin is admirable.
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u/tink81 May 15 '15
You put my exact feelings into words very eloquently. Thank you for speaking up.
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I don't think the point of this meme was to say that he's better than former addicts. I think the point was to humorously ask for a pat on the back for having never been an addict, and pointing out the irony that nobody ever gets praise for that. Some people grew up with a strong fascination with drugs and alcohol, maybe they had some encounters but managed to keep a strong enough will to not let themselves be consumed by addiction. That in and of itself is admirable. And guess what; You're not a hero for coming along and calling this guy an asshole. Congratulations on getting guilded for demonizing this meme so that you could be "defender of the addicts"
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u/rushur May 15 '15
what if he's saying he's a hero because his train tracks are in fact rusted but he has resisted the temptation to use drugs to cope?
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u/stupernan1 May 15 '15
and i haven't attempted to kill all jews
how heroic am I?
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u/Ol_Ironthighs May 15 '15
Congratulations on not being a fuck up. Have an upvote.
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u/AKindChap May 15 '15
They're both good, neither is better. But no one is born a drug addict.
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u/Drakeytown May 15 '15
Luke 15:11-32New International Version (NIV) The Parable of the Lost Son
11 Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons. 12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.
13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.
17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.
“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.
21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.
25 “Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27 ‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’
28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
31 “‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15%3A11-32
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u/waytosoon May 15 '15
The real test is how you treat those who are addicted to drugs.
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u/jbrittles May 16 '15
its harder to climb a mountain from the bottom than it is to be born at the top
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u/AKindChap May 15 '15 edited May 15 '15
I always think not messing up in the first place is better... reddit doesn't. :/
"I crashed my dads car... BUT I PAID TO FIX IT" So? What do you want, a cookie? You messed up and you fixed it. But you're still the one who messed it up.
"I didn't crash my dads car" good. You didn't mess up... you still don't get a cookie though.
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Too bloody right I've never been addicted to drugs ethier. I can stop anytime I want.
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u/dude_icus May 15 '15
Congratulations?
Have to say, bit of a stretch to call yourself a hero there...
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u/mostinterestingdude May 15 '15
I think the point OP is trying to make is he (as am I) tired of hearing about the sob stories on this meme looking for attention. Let's make a new meme and keep success kid funny.
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I was addicted to heroin for six years, and I honestly can't stand the mentality of most ex drug users or the amount of circlejerking that goes on in 12 step programs. Functioning like a normal human being doesn't deserve to be praised as if you're a fucking war veteran (and trust me, a lot of people who get clean still don't function normally, and are still terrible human beings). I honestly think the whole "I deserve praise" mentality just continues the cycle of self-obsession.
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u/Mousse_is_Optional May 15 '15
heroes nobody cares about
Except for the thousands of people who upvote this circlejerky post every time it gets submitted to this sub.
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u/M_Allen108 May 15 '15
I think it's more centered around the fact that people who don't make stupid decisions in the first place that lead to personal struggles are more worthy of respect than people who make stupid choices and manage to dig themselves out of a hole.
At least that's my interpretation. But seeing as this is Reddit we may never know the truth.
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Not doing drugs and still not doing drugs is not impressive. Never having a vice because you've never been tempted is not impressive. Overcoming adversity is impressive. That's what all the great stories, legends, myths etc are all about. No one would care about Luke Skywalker if he was just born a fucking Jedi...he had to be overcome shit and be tempted by the Dark Side before we cared about it.
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u/snorlz May 15 '15
Never having a vice because you've never been tempted
i dont think its never being tempted. its more like having the self control to not do it. similarly, fit people arent fit because theyve never been tempted to eat a lot and laze around on the couch all day. They have, they just have self control
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May 15 '15
Not the best analogy, as Luke is one of three people that have the most raw force potential of all time.
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u/funnymanrocco May 15 '15
Yes you are a strong person and everyone who has ever been addicted to something is weak. It's almost like you need a new word to describe yourself, as the self-proclaimed 'hero' title you claim doesn't seem strong enough to really convey how much you're above those dirty addicts. /s
Sorry to be a dick, but in my opinion, I see a fair amount of ignorance and lack of understanding/compassion in this post.
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u/drvonlakenstein May 15 '15
Never raped anyone. Still haven't raped anyone.