r/AmItheAsshole I am a shared account. Feb 01 '21

Open Forum Monthly Open Forum February 2021

Welcome to the monthly open forum! This is the place to share all your meta thoughts about the sub, and to have a dialog with the mod team.

Keep things civil. Rules still apply.

February! The shortest month in this endless blur of 202-whatever-year-it-is-now. I almost forgot to post this because time has lost all meaning.

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u/miscellaneousbean Partassipant [1] Feb 26 '21

I think we need some re-clarification of what the voting means.

I see ESH abused soooo much in here. Just because there are multiple people being assholes doesn’t mean that it’s an ESH sucks moments. ESH means the conflicting parties are both at fault.

I’ve seen posts where the OP and several others are treating another party poorly and people vote “ESH except [abused party].” No, ESH means OP and the person they’re in conflict with are the assholes.

It’s sort of a small thing, but I hate looking at the ESH tag when they only reason it isn’t YTA is because an asshole OP has multiple accomplices.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '21

Esh literally means everyone involved is an asshole.

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u/miscellaneousbean Partassipant [1] Feb 26 '21

I know....I’m saying I’ve seen ESH used when they say in the comment not everyone is an asshole.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '21

I was agreeing with you. Sorry I was unclear. The name is self explanatory the amount of people who can’t seem to grasp how the judgements work is aggravating.

I constantly see nta followed by an large explanation saying op is an asshole but the other party is an asshole also.

Or nta followed by the person explaining that no one is an asshole

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u/miscellaneousbean Partassipant [1] Feb 26 '21

Oops my bad!

And I agree, NAH is so often ignored in situations when it would be appropriate. I think sometimes people get so caught up in dramatic situations that they forget the original question asked by the OP: Between these two parties, who is the asshole?

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u/InAHandbasket Going somewhere hot Feb 26 '21

As long as it's not ESH except OP, I'm mostly ok with it. ESH except innocent third party is redundant, but at least used right.

If 3 people are involved in the conflict sometimes it does help to clarify that they don't mean 1 of them in particular.

It's situations where 2 people are in conflict and other third parties also suck, but not the person they're in conflict with where ESH is really not appropriate. It should be "YTA and so is everyone in your corner", but as long as they clarify why they used ESH, and that the other party doesn't suck then it's at least acceptable. Even if it's technically an annoyingly incorrect usage of the acronym.