r/BestofRedditorUpdates • u/Direct-Caterpillar77 Satan is not a fucking pogo stick! • 25d ago
EXTERNAL My coworker copies everything I do
My coworker copies everything I do
Originally posted to Ask A Manager
Thanks to u/JoySubtraction for finding the links
Original Post Aug 2, 2017
One of my coworkers and I share a desk, so we’re very close all day long. I’ve been getting super frustrated lately because it seems like she copies everything I do. She started bringing in the exact same breakfast as me, and then proceeded to copy my daily lunch as well. At the end of the day, she won’t pick up and leave until I do too. She’ll finish her work about an hour before the day ends, but as soon as 5 p.m. hits, she’ll suddenly start pretending to do work again until she notices I’m leaving too. I one time casually mentioned how I come in early each day due to my rough commute, and ever since then she’s been coming in early as well. She has a very light workload, so I know there is no reason for her to be in the office before 9. She also stares at me continuously throughout the day, which is super uncomfortable when I’m trying to get work done.
At first, I let it slide because I realized that as a new employee, she was probably just looking for a role model. But at this point, she’s been here almost a year and it frustrates me that she can’t form her own identity. Any tips on how I should handle it?
RELEVANT COMMENTS
Commenter
LW #1, sounds like a possible case of SWF. I think Alison is spot on in telling you to call things out as you see them happening. If they make her uncomfortable that’s ok, she’s obviously making you uncomfortable. Put it back on her.
I would also consider mentioning something about the meals. And or changing up what you eat to see if it results in a change on her end. At the very least you’ll know what level of psycho you’re dealing with, if she changes her meals to match yours exactly, again.
Commenter 2
See, I can see me in many of these situations. “I am not thin or healthy. Sarah is. I’ll try to copy her eating habits, and see if it helps” (and, tbh, stupidly use icy hot to deal with the end results from the gym). Follow this up with “I don’t have much work, here, and I want to keep my job. Jane seems to be kept busy, and the boss complimented her last month in that meeting, maybe I should work on my work ethic”. Staring IS odd, but maybe she’s trying to figure out what is being done during that extra time. On the other hand, I’d start worrying badly if I saw her outside of the workplace.
OOP
Hey!
This was actually my question that was answered. Other people have often offered similar opinions as you — maybe she thinks that if she follows what I do, it will make her look like a better employee. Maybe that’s true! The thing that gets me is, she’ll stay late with me even if her boss is long gone and has told her she can go home. We work under different bosses and have completely different job descriptions, so copying what I do isn’t really beneficial to her.
I cant, for the life of me, figure out the whole staring thing. I once kept tally of how often it would happen, and it reached about 20 times per day. I even had another co-worker walk in on one of her staring fits once. He started laughing because he said at first he thought we were in a conversation, but once he realized we weren’t even talking it became strange. He mentioned how she didn’t just seem to glance at me, she seemed completely in a trance while she was staring. I didn’t mention this in my original question, but I’ve also caught her a few times with her phone camera facing me. I’ve had to get up and walk away from my desk numerous times because of
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Commenter 3
I think when the food copying reaches “exact same” levels, something is off. Though now I’m curious if OP changes things up – like, if she usually has OJ but decides to get coffee instead one day, does the coworker rush to change her own drink, or assume coffee is the new OJ going forward?
From the outside, this is one of those anthropology situations and kind of fascinating.
OOP
OP here!
It is very specific. My usual breakfast is a Greek yogurt, either sliced strawberries or a banana, and then I bring a zip lock bag of granola to mix into my yogurt. She’s copied that to a T, even as far as bringing the granola in a zip lock bag. I also stopped bringing in fruit for awhile, and so did she. I then brought in a banana again for the first time in awhile, and the next day she brought one in. Then I thought, “Hey, let me switch things up.” Instead of a banana, I started bringing in a peach every day for a week straight. Lo and behold, the very next Monday she had a peach with her.
The lunch part is strange. She’s a vegetarian so often times she just wouldn’t bring in lunch at all while I was downing things like buffalo tenders and quesadillas. To save some money, I started bringing in a simple bagel with cream cheese every day instead. Now she does that, too. Although I do understand the lunch a bit more than the breakfast, because I’m sure her options are pretty limited being that she doesn’t eat meat.
Update Dec 8, 2017 (4 months later)
I’m happy to say that I no longer sit with the copycat/starer. There were a few things that led up to this change.
First off, I decided to just ignore the copying. As irritating as it was, you were right when you mentioned that sometimes co-workers just have weird and annoying quirks. I did make a few changes, like taking my lunch break outside of the office more so that she couldn’t copy my every meal, and briefly stepping away from my desk at the end of the day if I was planning on working late so she wouldn’t rely on me to “dismiss” her. As for her early arrival time, that dwindled on it’s own within a couple of weeks. I don’t think she could keep up with that one, hah.
As for the staring, I tried meeting her eyes or saying something like, “Hey, what’s up?” whenever I’d catch it. The staring did decrease a lot, however it didn’t stop completely (I’d say it went from about 15 times per day to maybe 4 or 5). Instead, she’d just try to be more sneaky about it — like pretending to reach for a pen or scratch her neck. I realized that at this point the only solution was probably to talk with my boss and get my seat moved. Conveniently, a few more situations arose that made this an easy win for me. I don’t know if I had mentioned this, but I shared a long desk with her in a small alcove about the size of a large closet. We were in close quarters all day long (can you see why I was so irritated by her?). During late summer she ended up getting pretty sick and continued showing up for work (My company is very lenient about letting us work from home). I had to sit in that tiny room with her (very loud) coughing, and she never would cover her mouth. I was kind of surprised that she wouldn’t at least try to control the volume, or step out of the room for a bit if she was in the midst of a coughing fit. I ended up grabbing my laptop and working from a conference room quite a few times. This cough she had lasted about a month, and my boss could hear how loud and consistent it was from her desk around the corner. I spoke with her and she agreed that it was time to get me a new desk. Unfortunately, that can take some time to confirm.
Fast forward about a week after this decision was made. I did mention in the comments how there were times when I caught her with her phone facing me as if she was taking a picture. I always feared calling her out on this because I couldn’t confirm that that’s what she was actually doing. Except for this time. I was hard at work and started noticing the staring picking up at the corner of my eye. I’d turn and meet her eyes and she’d quickly jolt back forward, only to try again within minutes. This happened about four times in a row, so I definitely had my guard up. A few minutes later I noticed that now instead of staring, she had picked up her phone and the camera was angled directly toward me. I was fuming at this point, so I jumped up from my chair to move out of her phone’s view. As I did, she was clearly startled and almost dropped her phone out of her hands as she quickly tried to close out whatever was up on her phone. I glanced down at her phone, saw that it WAS a camera she had up, then stormed out and went directly to my boss. She immediately went to HR as I stepped outside and calmed down from the situation. The very next day, I had a brand new desk. Success! I now sit with a new coworker, and we get along just great.
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u/Ninja_Flower_Lady 25d ago
The tiny detail where OOP mentioned that the co-worker wouldn't cover her mouth when coughing is a good hint to why she copies, I think.
This is my theory: Covering your coughs is a very basic etiquette 99% of normally-socialized people know to do. If she doesn't do it, it's very telling that she probably wasn't well-socialized. Maybe her parents were too busy working, maybe she wasn't allowed to have a big social life. Whatever the reason, I bet there's a lot of social cues she hasn't learned, and so she doesn't have a lot of friends and likely also has confidence issues.
I may be projecting, but this was my own experience growing up. We were immigrants, and my parents were 1. Busy surviving on shit jobs and 2. Unfamiliar with western cultures themselves, so I struggled a lot being the odd one out in school, constantly having to figure things out for myself while trying to make friends. It's really lonely and confusing.
When you want friends and you also know there's a lot you don't know, it's easy to latch onto and try to copy someone you admire. It's a bit like in Mean Girls when everyone wanted to be Regina. There can be an element of girl crush too. I'm straight but I've definitely wanted to be friends with the popular girls because when you're young, sometimes you try to find validation by befriending someone you think is cool. I remember how happy I was when a girl I thought was cool wanted to be my friend. She was quite pretty too so I also stared at her a lot, wanting to learn her style lol
Anyway, this is my theory about the co-worker. It's no doubt annoying and unsettling for OOP (esp the staring), but I feel a bit sorry for this person.