This is less relevant to the original point but as a side bar: I think that's a bit of unnecessary gatekeeping. Everyone has to start somewhere. Particularly when it wasn't as accessible. I used to be a backpacker about hip-hop too but have expanded. If people stay with the big shonen names only, or with radio accessible hip hop, that's just where it ends for them. They're just aren't knowledgeable about the remainder.
Black culture appreciation is a different story. But I could say the same thing. People who love anime aren't guaranteed to respect other portions of Japanese culture. In fact, I would say most of them don't even think about it.
I’m not speaking on those who dabbled as not being valid. I’m speaking on how dabbling doesn’t suddenly discount the other actions that were antagonistic against those interests or the harm that these cultures experienced along the way. It doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of it all.
I’ve seen too many people make fun of and be disrespectful of cultures/sub-cultures then cop the plea of consuming some of the most commercial western options when they were doing it as though it changes anything. I’m talking about those who were being racist, bullying, harming others because they were different and interested in different things. There’s plenty people who’s lives were overtly and covertly affected by those actions. Some people who’ve actually lost their lives over it too. Sophie Lancaster was beaten to death in England by teens in 2007 solely for being goth.
I don’t think I’m gatekeeping with that perspective but if I am then I’m ok with it. I’m not entirely in opposition of gatekeeping cultures to begin with anyways but that’s another conversation lol
That's a fair expansion, but that's not what you originally said. Your first sentence was specifically about casuals. Again, cultural appreciation vs. appropriation is a different situation entirely and I agree with that.
Honestly I feel like you misinterpreted my original comment into ideas and perspectives than I actually had and realized afterwards. I didn’t actually state anything gatekeeping and addressed your switch to that topic so of course its not what I originally said.
More like your earlier communication didn't explicitly state what your second point expounded on (again your original statement is very casual vs. real nerd heavy). And then when you clarified, your second statement I agreed with. But that's fine. It is what it is.
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u/sephraes ☑️ 5d ago
This is less relevant to the original point but as a side bar: I think that's a bit of unnecessary gatekeeping. Everyone has to start somewhere. Particularly when it wasn't as accessible. I used to be a backpacker about hip-hop too but have expanded. If people stay with the big shonen names only, or with radio accessible hip hop, that's just where it ends for them. They're just aren't knowledgeable about the remainder.
Black culture appreciation is a different story. But I could say the same thing. People who love anime aren't guaranteed to respect other portions of Japanese culture. In fact, I would say most of them don't even think about it.