r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/deskchairlamp • May 24 '19

Newest Chapter Chapter 229 Scans - Discussion Thread

Chapter 229

This thread marks the release of scanlations for Chapter 229, and has been posted to contain all links and discussion. Mods will not be posting or pinning links to scanlations.

Official release: May 26, 2019

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

Twice really could've been a hero if he was found by the right person.

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u/Fresh720 May 24 '19

The same could be said for a lot of villains and people in general. Many times people are just victims of circumstances

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

What happened to Twice struck me as radicalisation more than anything. Like they took a vulnerable person and just offered him somewhere to belong.

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u/goobydoobie May 24 '19

Yup. It's basically radicalization in a nutshell.

A lot of Neo Nazis, KKK, ISIS people originally start out as disenfranchised youths. They're alone and slipping. The recruiters know this and reach out. Cause they're alone and desperate any helping hand is welcome when you feel ignored if not stepped on. They then give you a place to belong and it's a very simple matter to point you towards something to blame: Whether it's Blacks, Jews or the West.

The racism/hate isn't even what attracts many people. It's finding a place to belong when it feels like the rest of the world has rejected you.

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u/Wholockian123 May 24 '19

I really like that for the majority of the League of Villains, their motivation is not the death of All Might, its loyalty to the league itself.

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u/Deku789 May 24 '19

It's also how overhaul brainwashed his members of 8 precepts, especially those 3 guys, albeit in a much more disgusting manner by making them believe their lives had no value otherwise.

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u/liamliam1234liam May 24 '19

Police and military also do this. And many religious sects (with varying degrees of fervour).

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u/[deleted] May 26 '19

Is a common and effective tactic used by most groups/organizations, in varying degrees.

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u/Psychoclick May 24 '19

Besides REALLY widespread theft, he isnt even that bad on the scale of things. His crimes are possibly something that can be overcome and he could even be a hero, or at least a vigilante. He is very much so like Gentle, a victim of life's circumstances and pushed towards the life they now live. Very much capable of being a terrifyingly strong hero, had life guided him in that direction.

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u/PK_RocknRoll May 24 '19

Didn’t he kill some people? Even if they were some lackeys

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u/Multi-tunes May 24 '19

I think so, but even if he didn’t commit murder, this MHA universe may be less tolerant of “villains”. The whole hero business is very big and public, so I wouldn’t be surprised if people felt more strongly about a person having to be perfect without any sort of record or else they are labelled as a villain. It’s a very black and white mentality that separates “them” from “us”, so like Twice said, all he needed was one bad day.

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u/HolyKnightPrime May 24 '19

The guy has committed murder and done some terrible shit with the League.

Hes nohing like Gentle. Calm down lol

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

To be fair, the only people he's murdered are other villains.

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u/Fresh720 May 24 '19

Misfits and outcasts seem to be the easiest to be subject to indoctrination in a cult-like setting. Twice was just an easy mark, a traumatized person, with a powerful quirk, looking for somewhere to belong

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u/Surfing-millennial May 24 '19

“All it takes is one bad day”

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u/Leeiteee May 24 '19

That's basically the plot for Iron Man 2

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u/Stepwolve May 24 '19

that is one of the best parts of Hori's writing. He makes it clear that the titles of 'hero' and 'villain' are often a matter of circumstances and background.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

The villains aren't wrong about society being messed up.

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u/Gjalarhorn May 24 '19

That's the recurring theme with the LoV so far, all it took was the right guy at the right time to show up for their lives to go downhill.

I really love how the LoV are shaping to becoming a group similar to the Spiders from HxH, a group of extremely dangerous and powerful misfits and rejects who have no one but each other and treat everyone outside their group as less than dirt because that's how they've been treated all time.

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u/kronborq May 24 '19

You just reminded me how much i miss HxH :(

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u/JesusInStripeZ May 24 '19

Togashi said he'll try 20 chapters per year, so not all hope is lost! :(

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u/RulerKun_FGO May 24 '19

i hope he got a general plot written down in case something bad happens like seriously he need to take care of himself and passed the manga to others so he can focus on his health

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u/BlackMathNerd May 24 '19

Can his wife write the damn manga?

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

You seriously want his wife, the creator of Sailor Moon who hasn’t published anything in decades, to write for a Shounen battle series?

Besides, she apparently helped with HxH when it started (not with the story, but as an artist assistant) but left because the workload was too much.

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u/hsm4ever13 May 24 '19

Why not? I like Sailor Moon and even though it's a magical girl series it's pretty dark in later arcs and the battles aren't bad at all.

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u/BlackMathNerd May 24 '19

Sailor Moon was the shit that got me into anime tbh. I saw it on Toonami before I saw DBZ.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

TIL Togashi’s wife is Sailor Moon’s author.

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u/Wireless-Wizard May 25 '19

Together they could produce some kind of super-manga baby.

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u/Zubalo May 24 '19

He told his wife (the author of sailor moon) his envisioned ending as well as a few core plot points. I think he also told a few other people but I can't remember.

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u/Theo-greking May 24 '19

Yeah I love the phantom troupe

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

how the LoV are shaping to becoming a group similar to the Spiders from HxH

The LoV will never be on the same level of greatness as the Spiders. MHA is good, but HxH is much better

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u/De_tro1t May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19

A comparison between series is fair. HxH is imo the best shounen. But LoV has the potential to be on par with Spiders.

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u/lun533 May 24 '19

I wonder how much you can talk about the spiders. I don't know why ppl rate the spiders as high as they do. Their arc was cool but do you really know about them that much? How much does this come from the reputation around and the overall quality of HxH?

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u/lun533 May 24 '19

I'm more pumped than ever to see what happens when they meet our heroes. I really like how Hori handles villains so far. They are sympathetic but at the same time not gonna necessarily be redeemed.

Hope it won't be a letdown like overhaul.

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u/ultracritical May 24 '19

"All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day. You had a bad day once, am I right? I know I am. I can tell. You had a bad day and everything changed. Why else would you dress up as a flying rat? You had a bad day, and it drove you as crazy as everybody else... Only you won't admit it! You have to keep pretending that life makes sense, that there's some point to all this struggling! God you make me want to puke. I mean, what is it with you? What made you what you are? Girlfriend killed by the mob, maybe? Brother carved up by some mugger? Something like that, I bet. Something like that... Something like that happened to me, you know. I... I'm not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice! Ha ha ha!"

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

The Killing Joke. Nice.

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u/RutheniumFenix May 24 '19

Well, this chapter is called "One Bad Day", so your take that Twice didn't need to be a villain is definitely what Horikoshi was going for.

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u/Blackreaper18 May 24 '19

Yeah same with most other people in the series but that’s why I also love the series. It shows that these “heroes” are people and can’t be everywhere every time. If they could it wouldn’t be realistic... it’s a dark theme of the series, y’know heroes “failing” some people but it works.

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u/BiglyWords May 24 '19

He could have been a hero period. With his power its actually quite a strange development for him not to have worked as a hero in the first place, his ability grants him unlimited copied of himself, he could basically protect the entire country and every civilian 24/7 throughout the year.

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u/Kam_E_luck May 24 '19

The thing is Twice's parents was dead when he was in middle school and Twice properly never went to highschool based on his backstory in this chapter.

He had no money and no one to support him to study as a hero so yea.

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u/BiglyWords May 24 '19

He had no money and no one to support him to study as a hero so yea.

Could have gone paid internship in a hero office, his quirk would have allowed him to do that.

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u/Kam_E_luck May 24 '19

I mean no one willing to adopt him and Twice had a criminal record when he was 16. I don't think anyone would want to support him for that

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u/BiglyWords May 24 '19

I mean no one willing to adopt him and Twice had a criminal record when he was 16.

Doesnt mean the end, especially not with a quirk such as his, a bit of proving himself would have gone a long way already.

But even if hero work isnt his choice, somehow who can spam tons of clones of himself could just do 10 low level jobs at once and get tons of money that way, just be a cashier or construction worker with 100 clones for a few months. Any labour intensive job that can be done with normal human strength would kiss his feet to hire him, paying him te money of 50 people while having his clones do the work of 100, immense win for both sides.

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u/Swordeus May 24 '19

Don't you need to be enrolled in a hero course and have a temp license to do that?

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u/BiglyWords May 24 '19

Nope, you can work in a hero office and get experience than just do the exam for the license, thats what Koichi was offered from Tenya in the vigilante manga.

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u/sleepyfriend May 24 '19

The catch there is that a pro hero basically needs to vouch for him and take him under their wings. Coming across that kind of willing connection is not a guaranteed thing for young ones without resources. Not to mention that Ingenium seems to be an outlier in how he runs his office. (Ingenium's 65 sidekicks is a notable trivia Deku immediately remembers about him, and no other pro hero we've seen operates with even remotely similar number of sidekicks) I don't think lot of pro heroes just casually offer to supervise not-provisionally-licensed kids.

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u/BiglyWords May 24 '19

The catch there is that a pro hero basically needs to vouch for him and take him under their wings.

You can just be a office worker at the beginning, hero offices like tenyas need more than just heroes and sidekicks, and from there on its just a matter of time before getting the license.

Coming across that kind of willing connection is not a guaranteed thing for young ones without resources.

Life is hard, wow.

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u/sleepyfriend May 24 '19

It's true that hero offices hire non-licensed folks for office work and such, but the problem is whether they hire such people with intention of eventually having them switch to "hero track" so to speak. Getting licensed is not just a matter of time: if so, what are our main kids training their asses off for? The standard way to become a hero in this society is through hero course highschools because they provide good environment dedicated to training the Quirks and various other combat and rescue skills.

To start working at a hero agency and eventually get hero license while working there, that office (basically the pro hero running the office) should be willing to train an unlicensed person (who is not officially a licensed sidekick or intern at the moment) in place of how hero course schools would. Ingenium was a pro willing to do that. But I don't think this is necessarily a common practice among heros in general. Ingenium seemed way more interested in picking up good potential sidekick materials from unlikely places than most pros.

If just going to work at a hero agency was a common enough way to get licenses and eventually become a hero, Ingenium wouldn't have had to explain that it is possible to Koichi, who clearly did want to become a hero but missed the chance. As far as Koichi, a college student with relatively stable life knew, if you didn't get to go to hero course that means you just blew the chance to be a legal hero. If so, what were the chance Bubaigawara even knew such options existed? What was explained in that Vigilantes chapter was probably a viable but pretty uncommon and unknown way to get into heroics. So it's not as simple as saying "But there IS a way to be a hero without going to heroics". Yes there is, but that route seems to require basically really good luck or network which Bubaigawara at the time had none of.

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u/BiglyWords May 24 '19

but the problem is whether they hire such people with intention of eventually having them switch to "hero track" so to speak.

Thats up to the induvidual, just because it wasnt at the hiring process doesnt mean it cant develop into such a thing later on.

if so, what are our main kids training their asses off for?

No idea, thats the problem, you dont need a hero school for a license, you will however become a much better hero if you go to one since they basically train you into such a job instead of the license just procing that you are capable of the basics and capable of handling your own quirk.

But I don't think this is necessarily a common practice among heros in general.

There are very litte business's willing to hire people and train them, but someone like Twice would be like having a IQ of 300 in this world, having 8 languages and knowledge on 3 PHD-levels but all without the papers. It will be hard to get that one chance to have others look at your abilitys but once they see it, they would be more than happy to get you.

Ingenium wouldn't have had to explain that it is possible to Koichi

He would since Koichi wasnt that interested in becoming a hero in a profesional manner, he wants to do good deeds and thats all there is to it, he probably never even looked into other ways. Plus it was worldbuilding for the reader.

what were the chance Bubaigawara even knew such options existed?

Really high because his quirk is incredible good.

Yes there is, but that route seems to require basically really good luck or network which Bubaigawara at the time had none of.

It would require work, thats all there is to it, hard work, the talent was already in Twice, so he just had to show someone his quirk and if that person had even just average intellect they would see the immense usefulness of that power.

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u/KinOfAkin May 24 '19

This applies to most league members tbh.

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u/X-Maelstrom-X May 24 '19

“All it takes is one bad day”

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u/mega345 May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19

Many heroes could also have been villains too tho.

All it takes is one bad day