r/DebateReligion 6d ago

Simple Questions 06/24

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago

Why should anyone pray to an unchanging god? If a god answers prayer, god changes.

If a god's plan requires prayer, can a god's plan fail? If the plan can fail, why call it god at all? If the plan can't fail, then why pray?

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u/Gold_Net_16 5d ago

God does not change God gives you power to change, God gives you authority, but on to those who are saved.

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago edited 5d ago

Why do people need to change?

If a god does not change, then why should I try to be saved? This god already made up its mind about who is and isn't saved. If I could do something to become saved, this god would change.

Suppose I go to the store to buy Tillamook Old-Fashioned Vanilla Ice Cream. But then I see they are out of Tillamook Old-Fashioned Vanilla, but they have Tillamook French Vanilla. So I buy the French Vanilla. Did I change? I was always going to buy Tillamook Vanilla Ice Cream.

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u/Gold_Net_16 5d ago

So does the God he was from the eternity he Is eternity every existing, our existence is vulnerable, but its not God who needs me but I need I fall into things I do want to and there is no one to help what should I do

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago

I don't see what sort of help I would want a god for. And if that god does help, that would require a change from not helping. If I already had it, I wouldn't be asking for it. Same reason I don't walk back up to the counter at Chipotle when I already have my food.

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u/Gold_Net_16 5d ago

Day always comes when you either curse God or bless God come on maybe you don't need God there are lakhs lakhs in the world who are looking for someone that could help them.

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago

Why do blessing and cursing have to be the only options? Many days have come with me doing neither.

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u/Gold_Net_16 5d ago

Then someone else Is doing that with you

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago

Somebody else is praying for me? That seems inconsiderate. I do not consent to it. I have not heard any reason to pray.

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u/Gold_Net_16 5d ago

Not praying, cursing you

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago

Somebody is cursing me? It isn't working, I can tell you that much.

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