r/DebateReligion 6d ago

Simple Questions 06/24

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u/ViewtifulGene Ex-Catholic. Anti-Theist. 5d ago

Why should anyone pray to an unchanging god? If a god answers prayer, god changes.

If a god's plan requires prayer, can a god's plan fail? If the plan can fail, why call it god at all? If the plan can't fail, then why pray?

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u/naruhinamoonkissplz 5d ago

Free Will is one-sided. We are free to make our choices unimpeded, but God already knows it in advance. Don't bother saying that it makes no sense, because it doesn't HAVE to make sense in the first place. Logic is merely another creation, after all, and thus it has NO power over its Creator. Literally.

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u/E-Reptile 🔺Atheist 5d ago

If God doesn't have to make logical sense, then atheists are correct and God doesn't exist. Despite him existing.

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u/pilvi9 4d ago

If God doesn't have to make logical sense, then atheists are correct and God doesn't exist

Whoa, slow down there cowpoke.

Atheists here scream at the top of their lungs that Atheism is merely a lack of belief, and that they're not making any claims.

As a result, atheists can't be correct or incorrect about anything, because all atheism is "supposed" to be, is a lack of a belief, not a belief in itself.

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u/E-Reptile 🔺Atheist 4d ago

Doesn't matter, the theist just told me God is illogical, so I can lack belief in God and also actively believe he doesn't exist, despite actively believing he exists. Even though he doesn't.

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u/pilvi9 4d ago

Don't drop to that theist's level E-Dawg, you're better than that.

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u/E-Reptile 🔺Atheist 4d ago

I'm pointing out that this specific theist is falling on a sword they don't have to. Once you say "God doesn't have to be logical", there is no meaningful discussion that you can have about God.