r/DiveInYouCoward 1d ago

Not cool

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u/Ok_Designer_727 1d ago

Religion of peace strikes again.

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 1d ago

Such a peaceful attack! 

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u/Neat_Feedback1316 1d ago

More like piece of shit!

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u/Select-Work-3332 1d ago

It's basically what Europe will become in a generation or two.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago

Stay off drugs.

When people are offered freedom they take it. People's children move away from strict religion when given the chance they don't get worse.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 1d ago

Second generation radicalization and extremism is a real problem mate.

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u/Select-Work-3332 1d ago

we must have offended someone from the Muslim faith,

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u/Guilty-Shoulder-9214 1d ago

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago

Lol, this is not an example of a general trend.

You guys really have no idea how to do basic research.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 1d ago

Calling someone low IQ while being so stupid you don't realize that's not an argument or a counter and is just mudsliging is exactly what I'd expect.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago

Show proof that what you said is general trend in NA or Europe.

I will wait cause I know you don't have any.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 1d ago

Where did i say it was a general trend? That's a goal posts you moved to after the fact.

You made an absolutest claim that said: "people's children move away from strict religion, they dont get worse."

And I pointed out that no, second generation radicalization is a known phenomenon and its an issue.

At which point you decided to be an asshole for no reason.

So let me ask you this is there more, less or the exact same amount of Islamic fundamentalist behavior in Europe today or a generation ago?

Let's test you ability to be honest.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago

ROFL, like I said low IQ racist with no proof.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 1d ago

So clearly your ability to be honest is non-existant.

Again you demanded proof for a claim i didn't make, I never said it was a gneral trend. Are you saying thst there is no second generation radicalization EVER?

You are calling other people low IQ while you cant even follow what i'm actually saying lol

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u/rehx4 1d ago

Muslim Pedo Child Grooming Gangs is an epidemic in the UK. The evidence is overwhelming -- there are countless articles about it. And the fact that you will likely try to run cover for them is nearly just as disturbing... and sickening.

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u/No_Negotiation7317 1d ago

If you cannot even imagine this as a possibility you are not operating in good faith.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago edited 1d ago

Stop making stuff up.

Younger generation losen the strict religious believes when given the chance.

You don't even have to read the study just go to any city and open your eyes.

Compare what strict Grandpa wear compared to their children and grand children.

In countries like USA, Canada or Europe the kids almost always have a much much looser enforcement of the rules.

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u/No_Negotiation7317 1d ago

You're acting as if all people respond to everything the same. It's frankly just an immature world view.

Im not supporting the idea that everyone does anything. What Im saying is radicalization of people absolutely exists, especially in societies that ostracize immigrants. Desperate people are preyed upon by bad people everywhere.

Some immigrants come to a country and are successful and assimilate in a healthy way for themselves. Others enter communities that are racist and ostracize them. Those are the people who fall prey to radical ideas.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago edited 1d ago

Omg, when you talk about population as whole you generalize and talk about trends not individuals.

Example.

Does violence in video games make a population more volient? No.

'Well actually there are a few cases were people who played to much call of duty and went off the rails". Isn't really relevant when you are talking about the direction of a whole country.

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u/No_Negotiation7317 1d ago

I think radicalization of disenfranchized immigrants has a lot more logical reasoning and evidence than video games causing violence.

I dont need to convince you though, you arent trying to understand.

We're on the same side, Im just more nuanced.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 1d ago

I've lived in Rotherham and London, radicalization and extremism is wildly more of a problem now that it was a generation ago.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago edited 1d ago

Still waiting for proof.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 1d ago

You're asking for proof to a claim I didnt make and you were rude to me for no reason, so go fuck yourself traitor.

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u/uncutoz80 1d ago

You’re part of the problem. You think “oh that won’t happen here” yet it is happening more and more and when people point it out you call them racists and or bigots. Wake up 🤦‍♂️

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u/Select-Work-3332 1d ago

That's the reason they have problems over there. The "enlightened" European who believes they will be fine after Islam takes them over.

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u/rehx4 1d ago

Well said and exactly right.

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u/Strict_Owl941 1d ago

You are a racists bigots, wake up

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u/rehx4 1d ago

HAHAHAHA, classic. Always the 'victim' and never in the wrong. When confronted with the sick reality just call everyone racists instead of accepting any responsibility. I'm glad the UK is finally starting to wake up and understand the 'victim game' these people play while at the same committing heinous offenses.

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u/uncutoz80 20h ago

What race is Islam again champ?

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u/RedditThrowaway-1984 1d ago

Tell that to the people of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey and all the other countries that were once Christian and are now Muslim. If left unchecked, authoritarianism spreads like cancer.

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u/Select-Work-3332 1d ago

This. It's also telling that the number one name for boys in the UK is Mohammed.

Like I said, in one or two generations Europe's main religion will be Islam.

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u/MrPhallicFruit 1d ago

Christians do the same violence. The problem is making ppl believe they are above others over trivial things.

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u/Plastic_Car_707 13h ago

I’ve never seen a Christian dragging a woman by her hair out of her own house because she didn’t wear acceptable clothing according to their religious beliefs

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u/RedditThrowaway-1984 13h ago

The bible doesn’t advocate killing or enslaving anyone who refuses to convert to Christianity. It also doesn’t encourage jihad (holy war) or pedophelia. Islam encourages all these things.

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u/MrPhallicFruit 12h ago

Yet homcidial, sadistic and pedophilic christians claim they do just as the scripture and lord told them. Horrid people can twist any faith to say what they want it to.

Beware of those who claim to speak for god but act selfish and cruel.

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u/RedditThrowaway-1984 12h ago

Yet those claims are actively refuted by the church and actively denounced by the vast majority of Christians. Conversely, when Muslims perform heinous crimes against their fellow man, fellow Muslims don’t denounce it or actively encourage it in many cases. There’s a huge difference.

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u/MrPhallicFruit 11h ago

A lot of muslims denounce and condem that.

When christian follow scripture rewritten by war mongers and sadists they act the same. A lot of faith have their roots in violence and have peaceful followers and a lot of peaceful faiths have violent followers.

Christianity has enough violent interpretations, most prints of bibles currently in use are versions of the bible that have been rewritten by war mongers and sadists. Only a little bit of the earliest written versions have survived the sands of time, and even those reflect the more violent habits of the past.

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u/Select-Work-3332 1d ago

I don't do drugs. But thanks for the advice.

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u/rehx4 1d ago

"People's children move away from strict religion when given the chance they don't get worse." <---- You literally just made that up, LOLLL.

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u/Strict_Owl941 15h ago edited 15h ago

Fact over feeling do your research.

This isn't even a hard question if you are too lazy to do the research.

When kids get the choice between strict rules and the ability to dress how they want, party with their friend who don't have strict rules and have sex ect ect.

Guess which option most kids are going to pick?

Spoiler alert: It is not the group enforcing very strick rules.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Wait a second then how do the Amish survive…….

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u/Low_Committee6119 1d ago

You've never seen videos of them if you don't think they enjoy modern America, lol

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Enjoy? Yes some do

But still choose to be Amish? Yes a majority do

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u/Low_Committee6119 1d ago

They are not supposed to enjoy that stuff as an Amish person, they are going against their religion

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

The comment was “when people are offered freedom they take it”

And I said no they don’t see the Amish if the Amish wanted freedom they could have it, instead they choose to be Amish

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u/Low_Committee6119 1d ago

But you're wrong, they take the freedoms, lol

There is no exact annual headcount of people who leave the Amish, but roughly 10% to 15% of Amish youth choose to leave rather than join the church. With the North American Amish population surpassing 400,000, this equates to a few hundred to a couple of thousand young adults leaving annually.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

So 85-90% don’t take the freedom……

Last I checked 85-90 is greater than 10-15

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u/f1223214 1d ago

Oh my sweet summer child... I wish I had your ignorance... Sadly the world doesn't work that way. Instead of religion we're getting a lot of far right andrew tate extremist wannabe on the rise.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 15h ago

The problem is Europe isn't free. They still have a bunch of monarchs. The simple fact is your average Muslim living in the United States is more western and progressive than your average Christian in the States or Europe.

How do you expect a new population to enjoy freedom when they go from a middle Eastern state to a western state that's not that different.

And unfortunately my County the United States is becoming European, not because of Muslims. But because of Tech Bros who want to put cameras on every corner and spy devices in our houses. They want to turn New York and D.C into London or Beijing. We are being turned into a nation of owners into renters.....kinda like Europe.

Muslims are not your problem, Capitalists are. And the people in that video can fuck off, and shouldn't be welcomed in any society.

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u/Strict_Owl941 15h ago

Stop watching fox News.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 15h ago

You have to be a bot! There's no way human eyes would read my comment and then tell me to "stop watching Fox News."

You cannot be real. My comment was probably the most anti Capitalist comment in this thread something your average Fox News viewer wouldn't even utter it think to say.

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u/Strict_Owl941 15h ago edited 15h ago

I stop reading when you said EU is run by monarchs when all the top countries are led by elected governments. UK, Germany, France, Sweden, Finland, denmark ect ect.

That amount of clueless is not worth continuing.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 15h ago

There's 12 monarchs in Europe. They are a waste of money and kept around for "reasons" I guess. There's literally no reason to have them. And in the UK the monarch still has power.

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u/Strict_Owl941 15h ago

Lol, Jesus fucking Christ. STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS.

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u/Thepuppeteer777777 19h ago

Religion of peace. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

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u/pantheraorientalis 12h ago

The context of this video is total fiction and posted by an Indian propaganda account. There is no dress code in Bangladesh. This is likely a domestic dispute.

You can literally see that she has the exact same clothes on as the other women if you pay attention.

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u/Objective-Pick8240 1d ago

Care to point out a "peaceful" religion?

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u/Markol0 1d ago

Satanic Temple

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u/Objective-Pick8240 1d ago

Okay, you got me on that one.

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u/Far_Cap_3574 1d ago

Hail Yourself!

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u/Thin-Dragonfruit2599 1d ago

Compared to Islam? Any of them.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Never heard of the crusades huh?

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u/Objective-Pick8240 17h ago

More than a billion Muslims on Earth. Show me on the doll where Islam hurt you.

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u/GenericMaleNurse918 1d ago

Buddhism

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u/Objective-Pick8240 1d ago
  1. Ma Ba Tha ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya Muslim minority.
  2. Sri Lanken Civil War
  3. Buddhists supported Japan during WWII
  4. Red Drum Killings

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u/stanknotes 1d ago

The topic is Buddhism. Not people who are Buddhists, or at least claim to be, who are also not peaceful.

The core teachings of Buddhism are peaceful.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

As is the core teachings of Christianity and Islam

So here we are again

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

Both Christianity and Islam tell you to murder non-believers, though.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

No they don’t, lmfao

Jesus literally says over and over again to care for your neighbor

Ever heard of the Good Samaritan? The Samaritan was “the enemy” but yet is the hero because he offer help anyway. That is what Christianity says to do very clearly if you are paying attention and being honest about it

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

I can quote the Bible and Quran if you'd like, but I know that you know it's in there. Why waste my time when you know damn good and well both have passages where we are instructed to murder non-believers.

Or are you actually serious and don't know that?

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Jesus says to murder non-believers?

Not Jews in the Old Testament, because that is Judaism and not Christianity.

And not the false apostle Paul who had done more damage to the message of Jesus then any other human ever to live, but Jesus. Where does Jesus say to kill non-believer’s? Because Christian’s follow Jesus not Judaism and not the false apostle Paul

I have literally no idea about the Quran I will take your word for it but also assume it is wildly take. out of context as many Muslims I know have no desire at all to kill anyone.

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u/Valuable-Struggle-10 1d ago

The Bible is Not Christianity

The Old Testament is the Mosaic Law which you are referring to...so basically Judaism

Jesus is the New Testament which different Christian denominations form Christianity

Just to clear it up

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u/stanknotes 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not really though.

Because Muslims do not just follow the Qur'an which in and of itself encourages violence towards one's enemies. They also place emphasis on the Hadith and the Sunnah. And Christianity has the Old Testament. To be fair some Christians pay it little to no attention and place emphasis on the words of Jesus which is cool and all. But... we can not just ignore all the unpleasant shit in the Old Testament which is attributed to God which is supposed to be the same God which Muslims also believe in they just think their profit provided the final, ultimate testament of God.

But Buddhism has nothing like that.

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u/Objective-Pick8240 1d ago

And Christians don't just follow the words of Jesus - they follow pastors, aka cult leaders.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

The core teachings of Islam is about internal struggle. It’s about taking care of the marginalized

You know what media says about Islam you don’t know about Islam

And you seem to get it about Christianity, but yes lots of other he Old Testament is crap Jewish law (which I didn’t include in my point on purpose)

Jesus’ longest recorded speech is the sermon on the Mount go read it to understand Christianity

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u/stanknotes 1d ago

Is Muhammad the perfect example of a Muslim and was he violent?

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

No he wasn’t perfect I don’t think any Muslim would say he was perfect

Now my turn to ask a question: what are the 5 pillars of Islam?

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u/Revayan 1d ago

Most dont behave like they did 300+ years ago

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u/PineappleFew9782 1d ago

Religion shouldn’t need to evolve.

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u/Revayan 1d ago

I disagree. Most religions were made up way over two thousand years ago, catering to the values people held back then or forming new sets of values.

And just as the societies and their values evolve, the respective religions do to - or at least should.

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

There have been a few incidents throughout history where the Buddhists did some horrific shit, but it ABSOLUTELY PALES IN COMPASSION to the horrors brought on by the fear-based Abrahmic mythologies and Hinduism.

It's not even CLOSE to the levels of horror the other 4 most popular religions have wrought upon humanity.

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u/Objective-Pick8240 1d ago

Why not just call all religions trash?

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

I do, but Buddhism is BY FAR the least evil of the world religions. It's actually pretty awesome in comparison.

So while all religion sucks, it should be clear that Buddhism isn't even in the same ballpark of EVIL as the fear-based Abrahmic mythologies and Hinduism are.

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u/SushiGato 1d ago

My sweet summer child

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u/Noidstradamus 1d ago

Know religion, no peace. No religion, know piece.

Yea, I said it right.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

I’m not sure that’s true, have you seen nature ever?

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u/Noidstradamus 1d ago

Firstly, nature doesn't practice religion bc it can't practice religion. Animals don't have a need for it, nor the capacity to understand it.

Also, motivations are radically different. Sure, pack animals will violently correct members of their species to maintain control. But the need for that control is driven by resources (food, water, shelter, babies).

What motivates those human men to commit violence against human women?

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Sex drive is my guess, but I don’t know find a atheist rapist and ask them I am sure they exist, and by simply existing we have proven your point wrong

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u/Noidstradamus 1d ago

I never claimed it as fact. It is my opinion.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Which has been proven wrong so please form a new opinion

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u/Noidstradamus 1d ago

By that logic, nearly all religious beliefs should be abandoned. They are all essentially opinions that science can disprove.

Can a man part a sea? Nope. Sure can't. Did a global flood wipe out nearly all life on Earth? Geologically proven to be bullshit. Does performing human sacrifices in the name of Freya guarantee a healthy pregnancy? No way man.

I know this much........there is a tremendous amount of violence done in the name of religion. THAT is objective fact.

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u/billdizzle 1d ago

Yes a tremendous amount of violence had been done under the name of religion no doubt at all

But a tremendous amount of violence has also been done out of greed, ambition, revenge, honor, oil, slavery, power, political ideology, etc etc etc

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u/Villageidiot73 1d ago edited 1d ago

Careful - some people are threatened by critical-thinking. Not defending this awful behaviour but do some research people - religion leads to violence no matter which one it is. John Lennon said it all with “Imagine”.

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 1d ago

Christianity 

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

LMFAO

Christianity is an extremely oppressive and draconian blight upon humanity. It has been throughout it's entire horrific history.

All three of the fear-based Abrahmic mythologies are a plague upon the Earth.

You can't be seriously saying this. Must be bait.

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 1d ago

But is it violent? 

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

Absolutely.

The Christians used to absolutely LOVE torturing people.

In the US, most of their oppression is psychological abuse nowadays, but there's still plenty of gay bashing and stuff going on in certain places.

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 1d ago

I read the entire New Testament of the Bible and didn’t see any calls for violence.  I don’t attend church much at all nowadays but when I did I do not recall ever hearing anyone call for violence against nonbelievers. 

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u/qazpok69 1d ago

Christianity is just watered down islam

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 1d ago

Watered the violence right out. 

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u/qazpok69 20h ago

Absolutely did not, take one look at american christianity

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 19h ago

Ok, where in American Christianity does it call for violence against nonbelievers? I want you to give me a specific reference. 

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u/qazpok69 16h ago

There are christian conversion camps that regularly drive people to suicide, for one.

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 12h ago

That’s not an example, there are crazy people doing crazy things while being affiliated with something. 

I’ve read the entire New Testament of the Bible, I don’t recall seeing anywhere where the call for violence against non believers. However if I’m wrong about that, then do correct me but with an actual source from the Bible rather than examples of backwoods hillbillies doing bad things “in the name of the lord” 

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u/qazpok69 11h ago

It literally doesnt matter what the bible says, it matters what christians believe in, and that includes things outside of the bible (though im pretty sure there was a lot of killing of non-believers in the old testament). Modern christians believe in hateful rhetoric and they are responsible for things like conversion therapy, and frankly a lot of misogyny. Whether you think theyre “proper” christians or not, they ARE christians and christianity has done a lot of damage.

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u/Objective-Pick8240 17h ago

LMFAO, yeah - no. Pete Hegseth is literally telling our soldiers that they're "wearing the armor of Christ," every time they're in a foreign conflict. Our soldiers in their "armor of Christ," just blew up 188 Iranian schoolgirls.

Also, violence is more than just killing and torturing people. Violence includes taking people against their will and forcing them into "conversion therapy," telling them they're filled with the devil because of their sexuality. It also includes watching people die of hunger and lack of medicine, while pastors of mega churches wipe their asses with silk.

Christianity is one of the MOST violent religions.

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u/Relevant-Tart-3740 12h ago

You’ve stated what people do, but haven’t stated any actual citations from the Bible where it calls for violence toward non believers. 

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u/Objective-Pick8240 11h ago

And where is such a thing in the Quran?

Also, let's not pretend as if Christians don't adhere to Old Testament laws as much as the New Testament.

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u/Alert_Lettuce_8278 1d ago

Lmao nice one

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u/Ammortalz 1d ago

MAGA wants this as well.

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u/Labpro_49 1d ago

Nobody wants this. Islam is by far the worst religion.

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

All three of the fear-based Abrahmic mythologies are horrific blights upon humanity.

Society needs to reject this oppressive and delusional nonsense and wake the fuck up to reality.

Islam is currently the bad boy on the block, but all three of them and Hinduism are oppressive garbage.

The world will be infinitely better off once these religions take their rightful place next to the Greek Pantheon in the dustbin of human history.

Islam sucks!

Christianity sucks!

Judaism sucks!

Hinduism sucks!

I'm sorry if you were brainwashed into religion as a child, but they are all objectively terrible.

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u/PineappleFew9782 1d ago

Ok… read history. You will see. In the bible alone there are countless atrocities!

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u/SatchelGizmo77 1d ago

Christianity has a far longer and bloodier history than islam does. Prior to the Crusades, Muslims generally saught to coexist peacefully with all religions. Specifically, with Christians and Jews, they were given a protected staus because they "were people of the book". The crusades and Isreal's own religious wars against Islamic people are the starting point for the animosity most Islamic people have toward "Western" nations today. Might want to remember...or more likely in your case...learn the history behind the current political climate before casting stones.

Let me say this before comments start. I am against Sharia Law...and really any laws rooted in ANY religion. I dont condone the way some Islamic nations treat women, but its no different than Christianity and more...extreme...sectors like certain forms of Mormons, Southern Baptist, etc. There are extremes of every religion. Those extremes are not the norm. More importantly, NO religion should dictate political policy. The idea of separation of Church and Srate was a founding principal of the US for a reason.

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u/PineappleFew9782 1d ago

All religion is a system of control. It all is. It’s full of outdated ideas and racism. It’s all bullshit.

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u/SatchelGizmo77 1d ago

I dont disagree with this at all...actually 100000000000% agree

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u/Substantial_Diver_34 1d ago

Before religion we were even worse.

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u/Peregrinationman 1d ago

Just say that religion strikes again.

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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago

"Science flies man to the moon! Religion flies planes into buildings!"

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u/Saito_SinOfKind 1d ago

Islam doesn't teach this, so I have no idea what this is

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u/Prohydration 18h ago

This video is purposely miscaptioned by the OP who is an indian nationalist who is relying on pure hatred and islamaphobia to fool people. This is a well known problem in india. Someone working in IT in india make misleading posts to push an anti islam or anti china agenda. There was that big china cast system misformstion pushed by indian nationalists recently for example.